1. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Same here. The Android devices that I owned were great and I enjoyed using them, however, the one thing I found difficult was fighting the urge to always tinker with it and trying to find the perfect custom ROM and perfect setup and I was very active in a forum not associated with Mobilenations. Anyway, when I opted to buy the 4S, I made up my mind that I would enjoy it as-is and I've successfully done that. I am content with it and with iOS and I will replace my 4S at some point with a 5 or the one after the 5. Not because it may or may not be the best smartphone, but because I like it and it's what I want.
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    03-10-2013 11:46 AM
  2. pirarre's Avatar
    Same here. The Android devices that I owned were great and I enjoyed using them, however, the one thing I found difficult was fighting the urge to always tinker with it and trying to find the perfect custom ROM and perfect setup and I was very active in a forum not associated with Mobilenations. Anyway, when I opted to buy the 4S, I made up my mind that I would enjoy it as-is and I've successfully done that. I am content with it and with iOS and I will replace my 4S at some point with a 5 or the one after the 5. Not because it may or may not be the best smartphone, but because I like it and it's what I want.
    Thats exactly my point. With android I would stay up late nights flashing roms or trying to find a find a fix for something broken within the rom itself. It became too time consuming. With the iPhone 5, I have it setup to my liking and I'm content.


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    03-10-2013 11:53 AM
  3. TechXero's Avatar
    Thats exactly my point. With android I would stay up late nights flashing roms or trying to find a find a fix for something broken within the rom itself. It became too time consuming. With the iPhone 5, I have it setup to my liking and I'm content.


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    Ok, from what you said earlier, I kinda agree, except you said it yourself. you would enjoy it more being jailbroken, same as saying you would enjoy a Droid rooted. To me, I enjoy the challenge of flashing ROMs every now and again, but not because I have to, just because I find it fun, and love all the new tweaks.

    Still the Play Store leaves me stumped with how clunky, and all over the place it is. I hate it. I prefer App Store to Play Store, it is much more organized and apps are much higher quality. I do not hate iOS mind you, I still own an Phone 4, dead right now but will get board replaced when I get the $$. Can't see myself without an iDevice on the side.

    The Nexus 4, however, being Vanilla Android, is amazing to say the least. I have owned an HTC One X a few months back, which made my Android experience HELL. HTC Sense is crap, so I tried flashing Vanilla Android, or to the Android guys here, AOSP/AOKP and CM10, still was not happy. Which leads me to concur with what you said, that I HAD to ROOT it and try ROMs to get a better experience. Not with Nexus 4 coz it comes on Vanilla, so there was no need to root or flash ROMs, I had 320 installed apps n tweaks, no slowness whatsoever. Am not trying to Advertise or sell the N4, just pointing out that it is not a general rule when you say it's laggy or slow, it is what the user makes it.

    With iOS, I was Jailbroken on 6.1.2 before it died, had 1 theme on there, very few tweaks, but the phone itself became laggy, why ? Try installing Winterboard see the immediate drop in performance. Now if you are not a theme user, ok, but that's my point, the device acts the way you make it act with what you install, so you cannot blame devs. Phones were made to be used stock, and if you like iOS the way it is, not jailbroken, then fine, it will be smooth, same with Vanilla Android. Dunno what you guys are doing to make it lag, so far with 320 apps on my N4 am suffering of no such thing ... Yet.

    Anyway, the Nexus 4 does it for me, it's still fast, smooth, and I am using a custom ROM not because I had to but because I enjoy flashing ROMs.

    Anyway I wrote more on the subject way back on my blog check it out >>
    Why I left iOS n Joined the Dark Side (Android) : TechXero's Blog

    Nough said
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    03-10-2013 12:16 PM
  4. pirarre's Avatar
    Ok, from what you said earlier, I kinda agree, except you said it yourself. you would enjoy it more being jailbroken, same as saying you would enjoy a Droid rooted. To me, I enjoy the challenge of flashing ROMs every now and again, but not because I have to, just because I find it fun, and love all the new tweaks.

    Still the Play Store leaves me stumped with how clunky, and all over the place it is. I hate it. I prefer App Store to Play Store, it is much more organized and apps are much higher quality. I do not hate iOS mind you, I still own an Phone 4, dead right now but will get board replaced when I get the $$. Can't see myself without an iDevice on the side.

    The Nexus 4, however, being Vanilla Android, is amazing to say the least. I have owned an HTC One X a few months back, which made my Android experience HELL. HTC Sense is crap, so I tried flashing Vanilla Android, or to the Android guys here, AOSP/AOKP and CM10, still was not happy. Which leads me to concur with what you said, that I HAD to ROOT it and try ROMs to get a better experience. Not with Nexus 4 coz it comes on Vanilla, so there was no need to root or flash ROMs, I had 320 installed apps n tweaks, no slowness whatsoever. Am not trying to Advertise or sell the N4, just pointing out that it is not a general rule when you say it's laggy or slow, it is what the user makes it.

    With iOS, I was Jailbroken on 6.1.2 before it died, had 1 theme on there, very few tweaks, but the phone itself became laggy, why ? Try installing Winterboard see the immediate drop in performance. Now if you are not a theme user, ok, but that's my point, the device acts the way you make it act with what you install, so you cannot blame devs. Phones were made to be used stock, and if you like iOS the way it is, not jailbroken, then fine, it will be smooth, same with Vanilla Android. Dunno what you guys are doing to make it lag, so far with 320 apps on my N4 am suffering of no such thing ... Yet.

    Anyway, the Nexus 4 does it for me, it's still fast, smooth, and I am using a custom ROM not because I had to but because I enjoy flashing ROMs.

    Anyway I wrote more on the subject way back on my blog check it out >>
    Why I left iOS n Joined the Dark Side (Android) : TechXero's Blog

    Nough said
    You made some good points which I do agree with.

    About 2 weeks ago I had a s3 32GB version. I was stock non rooted, had about 120 apps on the phone and it lagged like crazy. I took it into the store to see if they could find out what the issue was. First thing the rep said was, "wow, you got a lot of apps on here. You shouldn't have this many." Are you serious, this is a 32gb smartphone supposed to be capable of handling this load. Keep in mind I had like 23GB remaining not including my 16GB SD Card. I factory reset the phone and still had the same issue.

    The Nexus 4 was a little laggy but not to the extent of the S3. But it was there. Which brings me to this week. I had the DRHDMAXX and that was laggy I took it into the Verizon and the rep was like wow this is ridiculous. This is why I grabbed the ip5. Although I was close to giving the 8x a try too.

    Keep in mind, I didn't root the S3 or Raze Maxx HD.

    But that's great the N4 is running great for you. My experience was different as I'm sure everybody's experience will be. They're all great devices when they work how they should and when we need them to.


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    03-10-2013 12:28 PM
  5. pr1nce's Avatar
    Same here. The Android devices that I owned were great and I enjoyed using them, however, the one thing I found difficult was fighting the urge to always tinker with it and trying to find the perfect custom ROM and perfect setup and I was very active in a forum not associated with Mobilenations. Anyway, when I opted to buy the 4S, I made up my mind that I would enjoy it as-is and I've successfully done that. I am content with it and with iOS and I will replace my 4S at some point with a 5 or the one after the 5. Not because it may or may not be the best smartphone, but because I like it and it's what I want.
    I agree, I've never owned an Android device but I've had several Blackberrys. I love the 4S because it just works great as is. No more spending nights trying to find and download the best leaked or official OS.
    03-10-2013 12:33 PM
  6. XsabaX's Avatar
    After seeing this thread, I had to register and just give my .02 as well haha

    I too came from years of having Android on Verizon from the Droid Eris, Fascinate, Droid 2, Droid X2, Incredible 2, and Galaxy S3.. most of them being replacements.

    Rooting and running roms is fun and all, but after a while it gets a little irritating and time consuming trying to find the perfect one that has the least amount of bugs.. So I finally decided to jump and sell my S3 and bought a white iPhone 5 32gb. Couple reasons for me was iMessaging and Facetime, considering all my friends have iphones, it's really convenient and pretty cool, also integrated emoji's make texting and social networks a little more intuitive. I also actually like iTunes and the fact that all my music and playlists are gonna get transferred exactly as is.. Let's not forget the fact that my S3 probably would not have seen an update past 4.2...... if it ever even gets that, but my iphone sure will get iOS 7

    Some of the things I do miss from my S3.. Different keyboards, LED light, BACK BUTTON, plus a couple more that I can't think of right now lol.. ehhhh and the bigger screen has positives and negatives. But battery life on the iphone is way better, whether you have a custom rom or not, it's still not as good.
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    03-10-2013 01:18 PM
  7. mij9895's Avatar
    You clearly have not used a Nexus device with vanilla Android. Those things squash any iOS device on the hardware and software side. As for apps quality I do agree to the fullest extent.

    Other than that vanilla Android is so good that it has almost eliminated the need to go looking for ROMs n such. Trust me I have been an iOS user since 2007 up until October of last year.

    What I hated about iOS was fact that I was forced to Jailbreak in order to use it my way. Also due to a crappy connection to use iTunes rather than the cloud service.

    Bottom line is that for me, Android is better and suites my needs better than any iOS device ever will xD
    I'll disagree with you about Nexus devices in General. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I just want to slam against a wall about 5 times a day. My friends can't call me because they can't get through, and the LTE signal is unstable at times. The EVDO data is worth garbage too. I'm moving back to iOS this week as soon as I'm done with my Midterms, and I'll be happy to go back.

    The one thing I will agree with you on is that Vanilla Android is much nicer than the skinned versions of Android, but not better than iOS. I still prefer iOS to Android any day of the week.
    03-10-2013 04:27 PM
  8. TechXero's Avatar
    I'll disagree with you about Nexus devices in General. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I just want to slam against a wall about 5 times a day. My friends can't call me because they can't get through, and the LTE signal is unstable at times. The EVDO data is worth garbage too. I'm moving back to iOS this week as soon as I'm done with my Midterms, and I'll be happy to go back.
    Well, I dunno, all I know is that my N4 is still as fast n fluid as the day I got it even with 220 apps installed ... Like I said, it is how you make it, maybe you flashed a ROM with bad radio or your carrier having android issues.

    The Nexus 4 was a little laggy but not to the extent of the S3.
    My experience with Nexus has been great thus far. No lag.

    Let's not forget the fact that my S3 probably would not have seen an update past 4.2...... if it ever even gets that, but my iphone sure will get iOS 7
    Best part of a Nexus Device with Vanilla Android, we get updates as soon as Google releases them
    03-10-2013 06:17 PM
  9. omniusovermind's Avatar
    After seeing this thread, I had to register and just give my .02 as well haha

    I too came from years of having Android on Verizon from the Droid Eris, Fascinate, Droid 2, Droid X2, Incredible 2, and Galaxy S3.. most of them being replacements.

    Rooting and running roms is fun and all, but after a while it gets a little irritating and time consuming trying to find the perfect one that has the least amount of bugs.. So I finally decided to jump and sell my S3 and bought a white iPhone 5 32gb. Couple reasons for me was iMessaging and Facetime, considering all my friends have iphones, it's really convenient and pretty cool, also integrated emoji's make texting and social networks a little more intuitive. I also actually like iTunes and the fact that all my music and playlists are gonna get transferred exactly as is.. Let's not forget the fact that my S3 probably would not have seen an update past 4.2...... if it ever even gets that, but my iphone sure will get iOS 7

    Some of the things I do miss from my S3.. Different keyboards, LED light, BACK BUTTON, plus a couple more that I can't think of right now lol.. ehhhh and the bigger screen has positives and negatives. But battery life on the iphone is way better, whether you have a custom rom or not, it's still not as good.
    This 100%
    The 2013 high end android flagships still have a bit of lag on them. Android makers End of Life their phones after about just a year. After that, you better be good at unlocking bootloaders and flashing custom ROM's with sketchy stability. I don't buy an HDTV that doesn't work flawlessly as-is out of the box so I can "have the chance" to screw around with it. Same goes for any electronics. iPhone works better than Android without screwing around with it. As an electronic device should be.

    Yes, I agree you can do more stuff currently on an android. But it's not worth the trade-offs. Car analogy time! The Korean car company Hyundai, much like Samsung and LG, are basically into making cheaper knock-offs of the more expensive premium Japanese automakers Honda and Toyota. Hyundai cars include more features for free as "standard" than Honda does, who will offer some of those as paid option packages. But When it comes to quality, performance, and workmanship Honda blows Hyndai away by a long shot.

    Hyundai: Android
    Honda: iPhone

    /car analogy

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    03-10-2013 07:16 PM
  10. mij9895's Avatar
    Well, I dunno, all I know is that my N4 is still as fast n fluid as the day I got it even with 220 apps installed ... Like I said, it is how you make it, maybe you flashed a ROM with bad radio or your carrier having android issues.

    Best part of a Nexus Device with Vanilla Android, we get updates as soon as Google releases them
    My GNex is stock. And for updates, if you are on Sprint or Verizon, then you have to wait.
    03-11-2013 03:46 AM
  11. mij9895's Avatar
    This 100%
    The 2013 high end android flagships still have a bit of lag on them. Android makers End of Life their phones after about just a year. After that, you better be good at unlocking bootloaders and flashing custom ROM's with sketchy stability. I don't buy an HDTV that doesn't work flawlessly as-is out of the box so I can "have the chance" to screw around with it. Same goes for any electronics. iPhone works better than Android without screwing around with it. As an electronic device should be.

    Yes, I agree you can do more stuff currently on an android. But it's not worth the trade-offs. Car analogy time! The Korean car company Hyundai, much like Samsung and LG, are basically into making cheaper knock-offs of the more expensive premium Japanese automakers Honda and Toyota. Hyundai cars include more features for free as "standard" than Honda does, who will offer some of those as paid option packages. But When it comes to quality, performance, and workmanship Honda blows Hyndai away by a long shot.

    Hyundai: Android
    Honda: iPhone

    /car analogy

    How could you compare an iPhone to a Honda? It's more like the BMW of phones, at least from my point of view.
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    03-11-2013 03:47 AM
  12. TechXero's Avatar
    My GNex is stock. And for updates, if you are on Sprint or Verizon, then you have to wait.
    I am on International carrier unlocked not bound to anything or anyone xD

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
    03-11-2013 03:58 AM
  13. dnalevelc's Avatar
    I've owned an HTC Hero, Blackberry Curve, Palm Pre, Evo 4G, Sensation 4G, LG G2X, iPhone 4S, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Note II, and now my iPhone 5. I can say without a doubt I am the happiest I've been with a phone. I don't have the urge to flash a new rom to it everyday. I don't have to set everything up constantly. I have the iPhone 5 running the way I want and it can stay that way. It is Jailbroken so that I can have a few things tweaked to the way I want/need them but that's about it. I run a Mac now at home and for as much as I hate iTunes, I have to say it works very well when it's not on windows. Unless Apple does something really stupid to mess it all up I think I will stay with an iPhone and I just might get an iPad.

    **Edit** I ordered an iPad and it's waiting for me at home. Now I can officially add that to the list.
    Last edited by digglesworth; 03-20-2013 at 02:02 PM. Reason: New piece of kit.
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    03-11-2013 09:44 AM
  14. CashiPhone's Avatar
    The iPhone 5 is a wonderful phone, enjoy it!
    03-11-2013 04:15 PM
  15. Richard Nieves's Avatar
    You clearly have not used a Nexus device with vanilla Android. Those things squash any iOS device on the hardware and software side. As for apps quality I do agree to the fullest extent.

    Other than that vanilla Android is so good that it has almost eliminated the need to go looking for ROMs n such. Trust me I have been an iOS user since 2007 up until October of last year.

    What I hated about iOS was fact that I was forced to Jailbreak in order to use it my way. Also due to a crappy connection to use iTunes rather than the cloud service.

    Bottom line is that for me, Android is better and suites my needs better than any iOS device ever will xD
    I do think android is awesome, the problem is, there needs to be MORE vanilla android and more standardization so that developers have an easier time making apps cross platform. There also needs to be more battery optimizations. Problem is every manufacturer uses skins that downgrade the experience. There's generally one new nexus phone a year and they are not always on all carriers. I hope one day that happens as vanilla android is awesome. I am really likening iOS right now as it fights what I want and need.
    03-11-2013 05:26 PM
  16. Richard Nieves's Avatar
    After seeing this thread, I had to register and just give my .02 as well haha

    I too came from years of having Android on Verizon from the Droid Eris, Fascinate, Droid 2, Droid X2, Incredible 2, and Galaxy S3.. most of them being replacements.

    Rooting and running roms is fun and all, but after a while it gets a little irritating and time consuming trying to find the perfect one that has the least amount of bugs.. So I finally decided to jump and sell my S3 and bought a white iPhone 5 32gb. Couple reasons for me was iMessaging and Facetime, considering all my friends have iphones, it's really convenient and pretty cool, also integrated emoji's make texting and social networks a little more intuitive. I also actually like iTunes and the fact that all my music and playlists are gonna get transferred exactly as is.. Let's not forget the fact that my S3 probably would not have seen an update past 4.2...... if it ever even gets that, but my iphone sure will get iOS 7

    Some of the things I do miss from my S3.. Different keyboards, LED light, BACK BUTTON, plus a couple more that I can't think of right now lol.. ehhhh and the bigger screen has positives and negatives. But battery life on the iphone is way better, whether you have a custom rom or not, it's still not as good.
    I totally agree, and the worst part about switching roms is the re-setting up everything, using several different apps to back up app data ect every time you switch and that doesn't even always work. It was more trouble than I wanted to deal with but my stock ics rom was so bad, if I didn't root, my phone was worse...
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    03-11-2013 05:36 PM
  17. TechXero's Avatar
    I totally agree, and the worst part about switching roms is the re-setting up everything, using several different apps to back up app data ect every time you switch and that doesn't even always work. It was more trouble than I wanted to deal with but my stock ics rom was so bad, if I didn't root, my phone was worse...
    Like I said Android ain't for everyone... I am on a Nexus Rooted and on a Custom ROM not because I had to but because I enjoy flashing for all the bonus features..

    So far I have yet to suffer from all the lag you guys keep talking about... Honestly it is still fast n fluid... So got no idea what you on about.

    If it were a non-vanilla Device I would understand completely since I did own an HTC One X before it died and that was a bad experience yeah.

    In the end the device is what you make it.

    This is a never ending subject so with that said am out xD

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
    03-12-2013 03:09 AM
  18. bunjy's Avatar
    I'm also an Android defector, and the biggest reason was the lack of timely updates. Since Android manufacturers are constantly updating phones, support for existing phones becomes more sketchy. I also prefer a slight smaller screen and don't like the 'bigger is better' approach of Android. That being said, I'm glad Android exists because competition raises the bar for everyone, and consumers end up the winners.
    04-09-2013 12:00 AM
  19. zeteo's Avatar
    Congratulations! Welcome to the family!
    04-09-2013 12:23 AM
  20. quicksilver53's Avatar
    You are right. Android is not for everyone. It is for me. I have a one x and happily upgraded to a Nexus4, which is arriving on Wednesday. It will accompany my N7. I still like iOS and am using a jailbroken iPod 5.
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    04-09-2013 04:57 AM
  21. xybadog's Avatar
    I'm defecting too, on Monday (all being well). Currently on Android on a HTC Desire and I can't wait to be rid of it.

    The reason for me is much the same as many have said above that once you root the phone you are forever tinkering and it's getting on my nerves. Flashing new ROM's all the time is ok for a while but when you constantly have to keep resetting apps etc it soon gets beyond a joke.

    I really can't wait to get the iPhone 5 next week. I'm currently on a good tariff with O2 UK so want to stay with them and, due to the fact they still won't unlock the iphone 5 I'm taking a trip to my closest Apple store (40 miles away) to pick one up, if they have it in stock. I'd order it online but there's no way of knowing how long delivery will take and I hate waiting when I've ordered something.

    I wouldn't make a 80 mile round trip for an Android phone!
    04-09-2013 11:56 AM
  22. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I'm defecting too, on Monday (all being well). Currently on Android on a HTC Desire and I can't wait to be rid of it.

    The reason for me is much the same as many have said above that once you root the phone you are forever tinkering and it's getting on my nerves. Flashing new ROM's all the time is ok for a while but when you constantly have to keep resetting apps etc it soon gets beyond a joke.

    I really can't wait to get the iPhone 5 next week. I'm currently on a good tariff with O2 UK so want to stay with them and, due to the fact they still won't unlock the iphone 5 I'm taking a trip to my closest Apple store (40 miles away) to pick one up, if they have it in stock. I'd order it online but there's no way of knowing how long delivery will take and I hate waiting when I've ordered something.

    I wouldn't make a 80 mile round trip for an Android phone!
    I wouldn't call it defecting. You're simply exercising your right to choose another device. Anyway, congratulations on getting a new iPhone 5. I'm sure you will find it suitable for your needs. Take care and have a great day...
    04-09-2013 12:04 PM
  23. phonejunky's Avatar
    Great post. The biggest thing I can complain about with iOS now is customization, and Siri needs some real work compared to it's counter-part Google Now.
    04-11-2013 05:01 PM
  24. planoman's Avatar
    Big android user here for phones and have always had ipads etc. Recently traded out my work blackberry for an iphone 5. The last iphone I owned was the 3GS before jumping to Android. The iPhone 5 is a capable device but it is smaller and so narrow. At first I had trouble typing on it but am getting better since the auto correct is pretty good. I attached a picture to see the width difference. It is certainly better than the blackberry I had. I found myself switching to my Nexus 4 to browse even though it is HSPA+.

    Of course the iphone is intuitive and works well. Love it for corporate emails etc. I also really like the imessage. I can message my sisters and college aged daughter for free! I am using my Nexus 4 this week and prefer the size of the Nexus 4. It is much easier to type on due to be a bit wider and taller but the width is what I really noticed. I won't even mention my Note 2 since it is in a league by itself. I guess to me they are both smartphones and are probably more similar than we like to admit.

    One thing I wish the iphone had is NFC. I use the tags to automate functions with my android phones which switches my bluetooth on in the car and wifi on at home just by laying the phone on a NFC tag. I also use Google Wallet to buy water, cokes etc from convenient stores and that is usually handy since I am looking at my phone while in line. I also like the wireless charging for my androids.

    Overall, I see both platforms as user friendly and customizable. My preference is still android but I can see why people like iphone as well.
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    Last edited by planoman; 04-11-2013 at 11:55 PM.
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    04-11-2013 11:35 PM
  25. androidluvr2's Avatar
    I'll disagree with you about Nexus devices in General. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I just want to slam against a wall about 5 times a day. My friends can't call me because they can't get through, and the LTE signal is unstable at times.
    As a fellow GNex owner myself I feel your pain. This was Samsung's fault. They did not invest enough in the GNex because it was a Google device, not their flagship Galaxy S series. The GNex radios/antennaes suck and because of it, Samsung has lost me as a customer for life. Except I may get the GNote 3 because I want a phablet, but if the Motorola X is a nice phone with a huge battery, I will get that instead.
    04-11-2013 11:43 PM
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