1. baseballbert's Avatar
    If you work at it with the 4S? So you have to try to do something that happens on its own with the 5? Using a different model.

    I get a kick out of all of the apologizing for a tech glitch on apples part. Is it so hard to believe they may have made something that doesn't function correct?

    Are all of the reports of this happening from people who are have no clue how to take a picture? If so, there is less hope for humanity than I thought.
    10-07-2012 05:57 PM
  2. Guacho's Avatar
    That's not chromatic aberration. Chromatic aberration is a purple fringe around the objects in the focal point of a picture usually caused by inferior lenses.
    True, and even when is present it doesn't show as big as the samples shown here, no purple fringe on any edges here, this is not CA
    10-07-2012 06:05 PM
  3. iEd's Avatar
    This photo was taken with a original iPhone. Dig the lens flare
    10-07-2012 06:07 PM
  4. baseballbert's Avatar
    Sweet ride. Yours?
    10-07-2012 06:18 PM
  5. Vostok's Avatar
    So any hope of a software solution? Like turning the flare white. One that doesn't involve any work from me. :P

    Personally the only time I've had the purple haze was when I was deliberately looking for it. Suppose it'll be a bigger problem during panoramas beyond the first frame.
    10-07-2012 06:26 PM
  6. iEd's Avatar
    Sweet ride. Yours?

    Oh no I was at the dealership getting something fixed on the truck I had at the time and they had this 2009 Shelby on the floor
    10-07-2012 06:27 PM
  7. baseballbert's Avatar
    I used to have a 5.0 Mustang, LOVED THAT CAR. Turning the engine on was pure awesome as it roared.
    10-07-2012 06:47 PM
  8. JHBThree's Avatar
    It's the one the always give homey. Of course that can't fix it. Dude trust your eyes not what someone tells you not even what Apple tells you. You know you haven't seen any sh*t like that before come on. The real answer is it's f**ked up in a specific situation and I love Apple products but when something is f**ked up even from Apple I'll say it is. For example the original Macbook Pro was f**ked up. Apple has some great products but they will drop some BS every now and then like any company.
    I've seen this on several other cameras, including a high end Sony point and shoot. Ask ANY experienced photographer, and they'll tell you this is a problem on ANY camera.
    10-07-2012 07:00 PM
  9. JHBThree's Avatar
    If you work at it with the 4S? So you have to try to do something that happens on its own with the 5? Using a different model.

    I get a kick out of all of the apologizing for a tech glitch on apples part. Is it so hard to believe they may have made something that doesn't function correct?

    Are all of the reports of this happening from people who are have no clue how to take a picture? If so, there is less hope for humanity than I thought.
    This is NOT a glitch on apples part, these are basic laws of physics that no camera can overcome.
    10-07-2012 07:02 PM
  10. JHBThree's Avatar
    " It's a problem easily solved though as you shouldn't be taking pics with bright light sources just off the frame. "


    Sorry but this doesn't sound right to me, if that's the way someone wants to frame a picture then they should be able to do it.
    I took three identical pictures with my iphone 5, point & shoot and a dslr and the only one that came like that was from the ip5, however.. It was really small and i haven't experience the issue with my daily pics..
    If a person doesn't know how to compose a picture, and the effects of how they're taking it, then it's their fault alone.
    10-07-2012 07:03 PM
  11. baseballbert's Avatar
    So there are that many people who are horrible at taking pictures?
    10-07-2012 07:17 PM
  12. JHBThree's Avatar
    So there are that many people who are horrible at taking pictures?
    Yes. It should be common sense that bright light will cause issues, but apparently it isn't.
    10-07-2012 07:19 PM
  13. kch50428's Avatar
    Yes. It should be common sense that bright light will cause issues, but apparently it isn't.
    "common sense" is an oxymoron... as in good sense is far fom common any more.
    10-07-2012 07:25 PM
  14. Guacho's Avatar
    If a person doesn't know how to compose a picture, and the effects of how they're taking it, then it's their fault alone.
    nope, I've seen pics taken with the ip4 and ip5 under the same condition and only the 5 showed the purple fringe, it's not about whether or not this is normal, it's about the amount of fringe seen in pictures, in my ip5 the amount is minimal and I've done quite a few tests today with all kind of lights, very little to no purple fringe, but some of the pics I've seen here show a REAL issue with the camera.
    10-07-2012 09:54 PM
  15. Guacho's Avatar
    This is NOT a glitch on apples part, these are basic laws of physics that no camera can overcome.
    Here's a link of a test between the iphone 4, 4S , 5 and Samsung Galaxy S3, the ip5 came back showing the worst purple fringing, so the " basic laws of physics" dont seem to be affecting the other phones as much, the AMOUNT of fringing with the ip5 is clearly a problem.

    http://m.itproportal.com/2012/10/01/...-vs-htc-one-s/
    10-07-2012 10:25 PM
  16. JHBThree's Avatar
    nope, I've seen pics taken with the ip4 and ip5 under the same condition and only the 5 showed the purple fringe, it's not about whether or not this is normal, it's about the amount of fringe seen in pictures, in my ip5 the amount is minimal and I've done quite a few tests today with all kind of lights, very little to no purple fringe, but some of the pics I've seen here show a REAL issue with the camera.
    Same condition is not the same as same angle. The picture have to be taken at identical angles to be relevant.
    10-07-2012 11:15 PM
  17. JHBThree's Avatar
    Here's a link of a test between the iphone 4, 4S , 5 and Samsung Galaxy S3, the ip5 came back showing the worst purple fringing, so the " basic laws of physics" dont seem to be affecting the other phones as much, the AMOUNT of fringing with the ip5 is clearly a problem.

    http://m.itproportal.com/2012/10/01/...-vs-htc-one-s/
    And there are other tests that show other phones that are as prone to purple highlights as the 5.

    Some people that actually know about cameras have postulated that the iPhone 5's thinness is the issue. The thinner you get with lenses, the more these types of issues will crop up.

    People need to stop with the bs that this is exclusive to the iPhone though, because it isn't.
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    10-07-2012 11:18 PM
  18. DamnSkippy's Avatar
    I have been a professional photographer (all I do is photography for a living) for over 15 years. The flare of the iPhone 5 is not really the issue for me because it is expected based on how the lens is made and positioned. The issue I have is the nasty purple color the flare has as it compounds the problem of the flare. I wish it were much more neutral like the 4s. Flare is expected but the purple color sucks. I am sure it could have been done (made more neutral) but something made it not worth it to Apple. Hopefully the next version will be better, for now we will just learn to use the tool (camera) within it's limitations just like any other tool.

    Here is a simple shot of the light on my ceiling, again the flare is expected but man that's a lot of purple. At least we can convert them to B&W to get rid of the color.
    iPhone 5 Camera Purple Haze-photo.jpg
    10-08-2012 12:20 AM
  19. eduardohers's Avatar
    I don't have an Iphone 5 but here is a picture I just took from my Galaxy Nexus and you can see the haze.
    So clear a issue with other phone cameras , so move on.
    iPhone 5 Camera Purple Haze-img_20121008_000024.jpg
    10-08-2012 03:10 AM
  20. ridiculocity's Avatar
    I've taken a heap of photos and have not seen this purple haze. I have not tried to recreate it as I'm a realist and have a grasp on our wonderful imperfectly perfect existence. We live in an age where there are way more budding photographers with amazing tech in their hands taking not so amazing photos. Ask any photographer how hard it is to take that perfect elusive photo. Honestly if I do take a photo on my iPhone 5 and there is a purple haze ill just retake the photo and move on.
    10-08-2012 04:02 AM
  21. Guacho's Avatar
    And there are other tests that show other phones that are as prone to purple highlights as the 5.

    Some people that actually know about cameras have postulated that the iPhone 5's thinness is the issue. The thinner you get with lenses, the more these types of issues will crop up.

    People need to stop with the bs that this is exclusive to the iPhone though, because it isn't.
    You still dont get it, I'll try again, the purple fringe is an issue that pretty much all cameras have and we get that, however.. the ip5 seems to show it a lot more than other phones, it could certainly be the coating on the sapphire crystal or the thinness of the phone, in any case it is an issue, now... Is it something worth of everybody swapping phones and panicking??? NO... but you cant deny is an issue when there are pictures taken at the same " angle" with the ip4 and no fringing is seen.
    It is an issue that will probably not affect the majority of the people but it's still a problem.
    Last edited by Guacho; 10-08-2012 at 06:21 AM.
    10-08-2012 05:36 AM
  22. Guacho's Avatar
    I have been a professional photographer (all I do is photography for a living) for over 15 years. The flare of the iPhone 5 is not really the issue for me because it is expected based on how the lens is made and positioned. The issue I have is the nasty purple color the flare has as it compounds the problem of the flare. I wish it were much more neutral like the 4s. Flare is expected but the purple color sucks. I am sure it could have been done (made more neutral) but something made it not worth it to Apple. Hopefully the next version will be better, for now we will just learn to use the tool (camera) within it's limitations just like any other tool.

    Here is a simple shot of the light on my ceiling, again the flare is expected but man that's a lot of purple. At least we can convert them to B&W to get rid of the color.
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    You just put it the way it is, flare is inevitable and sometimes even desirable by some photographers, but the level of fringing is really bad, not even with kit lens or primes wide open I've seen stuff this bad, it was obviously a sacrifice they had to make to fit the camera in such a thin body and I hope too they improve it for the next model.
    10-08-2012 06:41 AM
  23. Guacho's Avatar
    I've been doing some tests today with my iphone 5 and an old 3GS from work, I was not able to get the fringing with the 3gs even after trying to angle the camera many times, the ip5 pics showed the purple fringe as soon as I framed, HOWEVER... the fringing can be seen on the screen before taking the pic so this reduces the problem a lot by moving the phone until it's gone.

    Test 1:



    Test 2:

    10-08-2012 08:44 AM
  24. Kaze919's Avatar
    the important thing is that the fringing can be seen when composing, IMO it would be a huge problem if you couldn't see the fringing until you went too look at it later. Now its like saying that the picture is blurry because the camera sucks. No the picture is blurry because you didnt focus it, the camera doesn't know what you want. Just take another picture
    10-08-2012 09:01 AM
  25. iEd's Avatar
    I did a some test shots with my 4s and with original iPhone I was able to get a ever so slight Purple Haze with the 4s. I had to angle the 4s just right for it to show up. You cant even see it as a thumb nail. If you look on the side of the pic you can see it slightly but it is no where near the Purple Haze of the iPhone 5 examples. where so much more of the pic is colored in purple.

    Also this does not happen in my 4s if the light is to the left of the camera lens or holding it landscape only when the light is to the right holding the phone portrait. To see the haze look on the speaker on the right.

    The original iPhone gives a more true representation of the colors in the 4s photos the walls look yellow in the 4s the look white and they are white no flash was used in any of these photos. I think it takes no effort at all for the user to get the purple in the iPhone 5's that have the problem and it's much more dramatic in the 5.

    I would try some sunlight shots but it's not Sunny in Philadelphia today LOL

    1. 4s light more in frame

    2. 4s light out of frame. (look for purple haze to the right)

    3 4s light out of frame example#2 (look for purple haze to the right)

    4. Original iPhone light out of frame no Purple that I can see
    10-08-2012 09:49 AM
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