1. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    We can literally do this all day...back and forth. Bottom line, map system works perfectly for me, turn by turn navi works like a charm (used it a few minutes ago as a matter of fact). Can you find pictures of things that are not rendered properly? Yup, can it be because the screen hasn't loaded properly yet? Yup. Could it be a bad rendering on the map system itself? Yup. Is that the exception vs. the rule? Yup.
    09-26-2012 06:05 PM
  2. metrion's Avatar
    When I get a good demo of the Maps app working properly I won't say anything, but we don't have that right now.
    09-26-2012 06:08 PM
  3. kch50428's Avatar
    Apple - iOS 6 Feature Availability -- metrion, check that out and see if what you are whining about is even supposed to be available where you live... didn't you post a screenshot of what I'm guessing is your phone, and the carrier appears to be Swiss? If you're Swiss, there's some things The Maps app doesn't do yet... 3D is one of them.

    Go to the App Store, buy Navigon, and quit griping.
    09-26-2012 06:13 PM
  4. thenameisnigel's Avatar
    That's what it looks like fully loaded? wtf

    http://static.dangerousminds.net/upl...le_iOS6_15.jpg

    This is Un. Real.
    That's the main reason Android is ahead of Apple at the moment. Better quality applications, more universal, more customizable. Don't shoot the messenger, but iOS 6 maps is trash . Trash, trash, trash. They should've just kept Google as the map provider.
    09-26-2012 06:42 PM
  5. TaliZorah's Avatar
    People come to the internet to complain mostly. So it's easier to find people talking about their own personal "defects" I know 4 people with a 5 and nobody has any issues.
    09-26-2012 06:47 PM
  6. kch50428's Avatar
    That's the main reason Android is ahead of Apple at the moment. Better quality applications, more universal, more customizable. Don't shoot the messenger, but iOS 6 maps is trash . Trash, trash, trash. They should've just kept Google as the map provider.
    Google maps on iOS was trash trash trash. Sucked worse than temporary NFL refs.
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    09-26-2012 06:53 PM
  7. TaliZorah's Avatar
    That's the main reason Android is ahead of Apple at the moment. Better quality applications, more universal, more customizable. Don't shoot the messenger, but iOS 6 maps is trash . Trash, trash, trash. They should've just kept Google as the map provider.
    Yeah and along with all that customizeablity you get an OS that is known to be buggy and recommends anti-virus software. Why? Because their market is open source. When I had my GS3 I ended up downloading a few apps that I just wanted to try that installed ads on my home page. Yes, my HOME PAGE and my notification bar. I was seriously considering getting Norton mobile for it then I just thought "why on earth am I doing this? I shouldn't have to pay a monthly fee for an anti-virus on my phone!" so I sold it and got an Lumia 900. Great phone, but I switched to VZW and got the iPhone.

    Also with Android you have to worry about whether or not your specific phone will be getting the latest and greatest updates to the OS. It depends on if it passes your manufacture's QA or if they even want to push it to specific devices. I remember reading an article about android phones and how there were only a few models that actually still got software OS updates throughout the 2 years somebody would own it on a contract before an upgrade. There's just too many manufactures of phones and too many different versions of the OS to keep up with. Couple that with the open-source market and never knowing if it's going to load a virus on your phone or not and you have a phone that, while extremely customizeable, is completely inconsistent with updates and reliability of apps.

    ---------- Post Merged at 10:56 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 10:54 PM ----------

    We can literally do this all day...back and forth. Bottom line, map system works perfectly for me, turn by turn navi works like a charm (used it a few minutes ago as a matter of fact). Can you find pictures of things that are not rendered properly? Yup, can it be because the screen hasn't loaded properly yet? Yup. Could it be a bad rendering on the map system itself? Yup. Is that the exception vs. the rule? Yup.
    Well said. And it's not like the app will never get updated. I don't understand why people believe the first version of ANYTHING will be as good as it will ever get.
    DaPhoneking likes this.
    09-26-2012 06:56 PM
  8. metrion's Avatar
    Stop it. No more talking about Apple Maps. We're not going to get anywhere, even if it's complete crap. Even if it looks like it came out of the 90's. Even if you get stranded because of it. People are still going to think it's the best because they, like, Apple.

    I don't have time for this. I rejected iOS 6 and I'm dammd proud of it.
    thenameisnigel likes this.
    09-26-2012 07:01 PM
  9. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    I barely used google maps lol. People will make a mountain out of a mole hill. But anyhow lol.
    09-26-2012 07:03 PM
  10. kch50428's Avatar
    I don't have time for this. I rejected iOS 6 and I'm dammd proud of it.
    Bully for you!
    09-26-2012 07:06 PM
  11. thenameisnigel's Avatar
    Yeah and along with all that customizeablity you get an OS that is known to be buggy and recommends anti-virus software. Why? Because their market is open source. When I had my GS3 I ended up downloading a few apps that I just wanted to try that installed ads on my home page. Yes, my HOME PAGE and my notification bar. I was seriously considering getting Norton mobile for it then I just thought "why on earth am I doing this? I shouldn't have to pay a monthly fee for an anti-virus on my phone!" so I sold it and got an Lumia 900. Great phone, but I switched to VZW and got the iPhone.

    Also with Android you have to worry about whether or not your specific phone will be getting the latest and greatest updates to the OS. It depends on if it passes your manufacture's QA or if they even want to push it to specific devices. I remember reading an article about android phones and how there were only a few models that actually still got software OS updates throughout the 2 years somebody would own it on a contract before an upgrade. There's just too many manufactures of phones and too many different versions of the OS to keep up with. Couple that with the open-source market and never knowing if it's going to load a virus on your phone or not and you have a phone that, while extremely customizeable, is completely inconsistent with updates and reliability of apps.

    ---------- Post Merged at 10:56 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 10:54 PM ----------



    Well said. And it's not like the app will never get updated. I don't understand why people believe the first version of ANYTHING will be as good as it will ever get.
    It's not even recommended to get an anti-virus unless you downloaded shady apps. And you can always opt-out to that crap. I hated my iPhone 5 so I switched back to my Epic 4G Touch and smashed the dumb iPhone 5. Worse spent money EVER.
    09-26-2012 07:08 PM
  12. kch50428's Avatar
    It's not even recommended to get an anti-virus unless you downloaded shady apps. And you can always opt-out to that crap. I hated my iPhone so I bought the Epic 4G Touch at full price and smashed my iPhone with my good 'ol hammer.
    so why are you here exactly? Trolling?
    sudbury78 likes this.
    09-26-2012 07:09 PM
  13. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    That's the main reason Android is ahead of Apple at the moment. Better quality applications, more universal, more customizable. Don't shoot the messenger, but iOS 6 maps is trash . Trash, trash, trash. They should've just kept Google as the map provider.
    False. Android apps are no where on par with iOS apps. Sure the google ones are but that's for obvious reasons. But everything else isn't. And this is coming from someone that has used both platforms simultaneously for the last 3 years. Just stop it with the exaggeration. A maps app will not break app. iOS is still overall the best mobile platform. Should apple have waited until their maps app was better? Yes. But they are tired of google so they had to do what they had to do. And think about this... Apple is a company hell bent on user experience. Don't you think they really thought this through knowing their app would be inferior but still willing to take the risk? It's not just about an app to them. It's about separately google from their core OS. And quite frankly native YouTube and maps weren't anything to write home about since google were intentionally withholding features. Did you know apple was pushing google for turn by turn navigation for 2 years but they never got around to doing it. So apple said ok we will have to do it ourselves and we will take the hit for it now but that's ok.
    kch50428 likes this.
    09-26-2012 07:09 PM
  14. thenameisnigel's Avatar
    so why are you here exactly? Trolling?
    No, I was here stating my opinion, but apparently that's called trolling so yes. Shoot me, idgaf.

    False. Android apps are no where on par with iOS apps. Sure the google ones are but that's for obvious reasons. But everything else isn't. And this is coming from someone that has used both platforms simultaneously for the last 3 years. Just stop it with the exaggeration. A maps app will not break app. iOS is still overall the best mobile platform. Should apple have waited until their maps app was better? Yes. But they are tired of google so they had to do what they had to do. And think about this... Apple is a company hell bent on user experience. Don't you think they really thought this through knowing their app would be inferior but still willing to take the risk? It's not just about an app to them. It's about separately google from their core OS. And quite frankly native YouTube and maps weren't anything to write home about since google were intentionally withholding features. Did you know apple was pushing google for turn by turn navigation for 2 years but they never got around to doing it. So apple said ok we will have to do it ourselves and we will take the hit for it now but that's ok.
    It's not all about the Maps. Honestly, I could give a rat's *** about the Maps. I'm just saying Android is much more customizable than iOS let alone having to root/jailbreak. Android manufactors support rooting , and projects like CyanogenMod, AOSP, AOKP, etc. They even provide tools to help root it. When Apple does, you can hit me up on AndroidCentral (TheNameIsNigel) , a well known developer, and samartian. So don't you dare bash me for trying to state my opinion.
    09-26-2012 07:17 PM
  15. kch50428's Avatar
    Clearly Nigel, you are here to troll. Now I can ignore you, knowing I will miss absolutely nothing.
    09-26-2012 07:21 PM
  16. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    No, I was here stating my opinion, but apparently that's called trolling so yes. Shoot me, idgaf.



    It's not all about the Maps. Honestly, I could give a rat's *** about the Maps. I'm just saying Android is much more customizable than iOS let alone having to root/jailbreak. Android manufactors support rooting , and projects like CyanogenMod, AOSP, AOKP, etc. They even provide tools to help root it. When Apple does, you can hit me up on AndroidCentral (TheNameIsNigel) , a well known developer, and samartian. So don't you dare bash me for trying to state my opinion.
    Yes I agree it's more customizable. But that's not something no one knows. It all depends on the user if they care about those things. For instance, I like being able to tweak stuff but my wife hates all the menu options and how to find stuff and long pressing brings up a separate set of options. But that's her. But in my opinion from my own personal experience, usability is more important than being able to add widgets or tweak settings. Don't get me wrong. Those things are cool but not enough to make see say its better. It's just different. At the end of the day those things mean little to me and a lot of others. While those things mean a lot to others. But there are actual people that don't care about tinkering and just want to use the phone as it is. And there's nothing wrong with that.

    P.s. I'm not going to bash you for your opinion. I just think what is of value to you isn't valuable to others and vice versa. And I respect that.
    09-26-2012 07:23 PM
  17. thenameisnigel's Avatar
    Clearly Nigel, you are here to troll. Now I can ignore you, knowing I will miss absolutely nothing.
    Clearly, you are someone who label everyone who has individuality as trolls. Now if you excuse me, I'll be heading back to the approiate forums to finish this recovery that people care so much about. You're dismissed.

    Yes I agree it's more customizable. But that's not something no one knows. It all depends on the user if they care about those things. For instance, I like being able to tweak stuff but my wife hates all the menu options and how to find stuff and long pressing brings up a separate set of options. But that's her. But in my opinion from my own personal experience, usability is more important than being able to add widgets or tweak settings. Don't get me wrong. Those things are cool but not enough to make see say its better. It's just different. At the end of the day those things mean little to me and a lot of others. While those things mean a lot to others. But there are actual people that don't care about tinkering and just want to use the phone as it is. And there's nothing wrong with that.

    P.s. I'm not going to bash you for your opinion. I just think what is of value to you isn't valuable to others and vice versa. And I respect that.
    Okay cool. I just wanted to state that. I will not bother you guys anymore.
    09-26-2012 07:29 PM
  18. emozdashietxp's Avatar
    i kind of get where this idea is sprouting from. sometimes..the hype can be generated because..it's from apple. horrible example..but even jimmy kimmel's short parody/demo that people who were given an iphone 5, when it just the iphone 4s..thought to deem it "oh it's definitely faster/lighter"..just saying, a placebo effect does take place since it's Apple Inc. Only true apple fanboys/girls would really know the hardware and details (it's a simple google search quite honestly) but not everyone will understand. that's why sometimes..you present a dummy with money an iphone 5 and they will get it without the whereabouts of the phone.

    on the side note, nothing with apple's demise lol because they are not in demise o_O..
    i wish i can conduct a small experiment. if i could load a iphone 4s hardware onto an iphone 5 body...will you still get it? everything "under the glass" is the same, even the weight. just the structure of the iphone 5 body+screen changed.

    secondly, if jobs were still to take stand of apple, i would agree that things might have turned out differently...i mean cook and jobs are not the same person obviously, jk (bad joke) but jobs kept the thrill on his customers.. on the contrast, it isn't just jobs working on the phone, it's his team...not just ceo, but designer, developer etc.
    09-26-2012 07:43 PM
  19. 0pusX's Avatar
    I wouldnt say any product that currently has a 3-4 week waiting period due to backorder could be considered a failure....
    09-26-2012 07:45 PM
  20. metrion's Avatar
    I've been booted off forums before because of the Android user's scorn.

    Android users just run on and on and on about their devices. And in the back of my mind, I'm like, "okay, so what, I still don't want that POS" every time they do it.

    WE KNOW ABOUT ANDROID ALREADY.
    09-26-2012 07:55 PM
  21. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    I've been booted off forums before because of the Android user's scorn.

    Android users just run on and on and on about their devices. And in the back of my mind, I'm like, "okay, so what, I still don't want that POS" every time they do it.

    WE KNOW ABOUT ANDROID ALREADY.
    Lol. Personally I'm way past the "my phone/OS is better than yours". I'll try any device to see the strengths and weakness. At the end of the day people need to just stop caring about what others prefer to use and just use what they like themselves. Well, unless they have a blackberry then you can laugh at them lol. J/K.
    09-26-2012 07:58 PM
  22. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Stop it. No more talking about Apple Maps. We're not going to get anywhere, even if it's complete crap. Even if it looks like it came out of the 90's. Even if you get stranded because of it. People are still going to think it's the best because they, like, Apple.

    I don't have time for this. I rejected iOS 6 and I'm dammd proud of it.
    Who said anything about it being the best? I just said it worked fine...it certainly doesn't have the detail or polish that Google maps has, then again, it's only been in use for about a week now...

    Also, do you want a cookie or something for skipping iOS 6? Nobody gives a sh*t about your trolling accomplishments...and i just respond and argue with you because you make yourself look like an a*s clown nearly every time you post.
    09-26-2012 08:01 PM
  23. metrion's Avatar
    Ignoring Sean, I've noticed a fundamental change in Apple. And who wouldn't this is just the beginning of Cook's 'Apple'. It could be said that the iPhones that have been coming out are not perfect. But they're not perfect because they're infant technologies.
    09-26-2012 08:19 PM
  24. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Ignoring Sean, Apple has some wiggle room, but it won't be long before things get serious. The iPhone is still fairly new. Regardless of it's features, people will still be talking about it for years to come.
    You can't ignore me sweetheart, my banter (and others that respond to your asinine drivel) is the only reason you exist here...
    thenameisnigel likes this.
    09-26-2012 08:20 PM
  25. metrion's Avatar
    You can't ignore me sweetheart, my banter (and others that respond to your asinine drivel) is the only reason you exist here...
    I'm not looking for a response. I'm just here to make sure that people know that this rollout was not well recieved by me. In fact, it's worse than I had originally anticipated. I've been one to take it back.
    09-26-2012 08:28 PM
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