1. Scout_313's Avatar
    As someone who has experience with all of the major OSes carried by Verizon, I'm not disappointed by the iPhone 5 itself, but by iOS6. There is no doubt that the iPhone 5 is a stellar piece of hardware but I was hoping that Apple would release some new functionality that would inspire others to step their game up. From what I saw today, Apple didn't unveil a single feature that hasn't been done before by Android, BlackBerry, or Windows Phone. It is apparent that Apple has definitely made a product that will continue to sell well to those that like iOS, but I think that going forward, they will have a more difficult time converting users of a competing OS.
    09-12-2012 07:59 PM
  2. Caballera's Avatar
    Thankfully Nokia has a phone for the tiny niche of users that are hell bent about using gloves when they want to use their phone...and want a yellow (lmao) casing around it while trying to be a cinematographer using a cell phone when they really have no need for the feature that is being touted as such a detrimental feature. Also don't be surprised if your precious Nokia is missing any actual use for NFC as well.
    By the time the Lumina 920 gets released (sometime in November) I have to wonder if anyone will even remember the phone. Plus the Lumina 920 runs Windows Phone 8, so their won't be any apps, you'll have to use WP7 apps.
    09-12-2012 09:05 PM
  3. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Those of you meh'ing NFC.... I use it all the time with my GS3. I dont live in a big city either. I live in Grand Haven, MI

    To the original poster of this thread and its subject: Why do you care??
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    09-12-2012 09:11 PM
  4. Fausty82's Avatar
    Scores of posts all over FB by Android users how uneventful and stupid the iPhone 5 is by Android users. If they claim their own OS and phones are so much superior why such an outcry? It floor me how upset they are by todays announcement.
    In two words:

    ***** envy.

    I think Sean pretty much nailed it in the second post of this thread.
    Last edited by Fausty82; 09-12-2012 at 09:22 PM.
    09-12-2012 09:18 PM
  5. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    It's nothing new...every year the out pouring of genuine frustration from Android fan boys is a hilarious event to watch. They are so concerned that people KNOW they think their Galaxy S III is the best phone in the world that they spend more time talking down the iPhone than they do playing with their own phone itself!

    It also has a lot to do with relevancy...for some reason Android radicals desperately need their phone to be the best and most talked about thing in existence (and if it's not, watch out!), and in that, they make it a mission to critically attack anything that gets in their way. You should see the absolutely hilarious things people say about the Windows phones when they were being released on the Android section of reddit.com...you'd think Microsoft sh*t in on their carpet with some of the things said.
    This is a crock.... there are phone radicals of EVERY flavor of phone. Its only a problem if you pay attention them.

    Why bother? I dont like Justin Bieber..... I dont listen to his music. It doesnt upset me, bother me, or make me ponder why some think he's the cats pajamas.
    Last edited by kilofox; 09-12-2012 at 09:37 PM.
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    09-12-2012 09:34 PM
  6. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    This is a crock.... there are phone radicals of EVERY flavor of phone. Its only a problem if you pay attention them.

    Why bother? I dont like Justin Bieber..... I dont listen to his music. It doesnt upset me, bother me, or make me ponder why some think he's the cats pajamas.
    How is it a crock? We arn't talking about everyone else here, we're talking about the android fanboys getting up in arms. If you don't pay attention to them, why bother joining this discussion? The fact that you ignore it doesn't make it vanish from existence.
    09-12-2012 09:40 PM
  7. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    How is it a crock? We arn't talking about everyone else here, we're talking about the android fanboys getting up in arms. If you don't pay attention to them, why bother joining this discussion? The fact that you ignore it doesn't make it vanish from existence.
    I joined this discussion because I am a fan of cell phones period. I like, android, iOS, Win Mobile. All of them.

    Your original post in this thread infers (at least to me) that this is a one-way street. While you dont say so directly, its easy to read between the lines.

    If you dont feel that way then I apologize and retract everything I have said. If you do feel that way, then I say you are wrong.
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    09-12-2012 09:55 PM
  8. ernbrdn's Avatar
    I have a more important question for you. How does a thermos bottle know whether to keep it's contents hot or cold?
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    09-13-2012 12:37 AM
  9. Exxod's Avatar
    People are always mixing up "infer" and "imply"...I think that's the most important thing to consider here. Implying is what someone else does; inferring is what you as the listener take in as the meaning of whatever someone else is saying. "I inferred from your rant that you despise the iPhone." or "Are you implying that the iPhone isn't a good smartphone?"
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    09-13-2012 12:47 AM
  10. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    By the time the Lumina 920 gets released (sometime in November) I have to wonder if anyone will even remember the phone. Plus the Lumina 920 runs Windows Phone 8, so their won't be any apps, you'll have to use WP7 apps.
    Looks like you already have a problem remembering. It's "Lumia," not "Lumina." :P

    How won't there be any apps though? Do WP7 apps not count as actual apps? Plus, the WP8 SDK is being given to certain developers so they can start optimizing their apps for WP8.
    09-13-2012 01:35 AM
  11. digitalfan's Avatar
    Scores of posts all over FB by Android users how uneventful and stupid the iPhone 5 is by Android users. If they claim their own OS and phones are so much superior why such an outcry? It floor me how upset they are by todays announcement.
    I notice Android users have an inherit hatred of Apple products. When Android has what Apple has, they love it. But when Apple has a good product, they can't enjoy it.

    I'm not saying the criticism isn't valid. Tge iPhone 5 is not a huge step, and it barely even catches up. I mean, two years ago with the iPhone 4 Apple talked big on there Retina display, and now they don't care about HD? And where are the must ha e features others need to copy? Maybe it's too much for me to ask and expect, but i want Apple to lead the industry.

    With that said, it's purely genius that the iPhone 5 is the same width as the iPhone 4S. That actually is Apple thinking about the design. Being a forward thinking company. Leading. Problem is, they should have applied that across the board. Not in just one area.
    09-13-2012 05:17 AM
  12. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I joined this discussion because I am a fan of cell phones period. I like, android, iOS, Win Mobile. All of them.

    Your original post in this thread infers (at least to me) that this is a one-way street. While you dont say so directly, its easy to read between the lines.

    If you dont feel that way then I apologize and retract everything I have said. If you do feel that way, then I say you are wrong.
    You assumed wrong...in fact, if you go into the off-topic sub forum on this website, you'll see another discussion about this same exact topic, and i stick to my guns, while certainly NOT a one way street (all products have their radical fanboys that blindly support things with no real knowledge of what they are defending), it is plainly obvious that Android fanboys are much more hostile and aggressive towards iPhone fans than vice versa, they actually FLOOD websites (especially after events) with negativity. That's not to say that there arn't iPhone fans foaming at the mouth and attacking on first chance any Android fan that comes to pass...this is going to happen anywhere, but the balance is not equal, it's very lopsided.

    Now me personally, I'm one that sways to the side of being happy with what i like, and hoping everyone else does the same...but that encounters a big issue when people come on this website, where the product i personally like is the focus, and they try to tell me that what i prefer is wrong...that my opinion and preference is some how less accurate than their own, and that I'm some how making a mistake by having said opinion. That is what i refer to when i talk about Android fanboys...and they tend to spread like warm butter on bread, especially after an iPhone announcement. Look at the negative posts right now...this happens EVERY year, regardless of which iPhone you look at (besides the first), and then after a few weeks, the trolls leave.
    Last edited by SeanHRCC; 09-13-2012 at 08:04 AM.
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    09-13-2012 07:58 AM
  13. BLiNK's Avatar
    Jesus Christ Sean is on FIRE this morning! <3
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    09-13-2012 08:05 AM
  14. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Sean... most of the negativity I am seeing posted on the iPhone 5 Forum are from disappointed 4/4S owners.

    You forgot to mention the other side of the coin on fanboyism.... a persecution complex.
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    09-13-2012 09:46 AM
  15. Fausty82's Avatar
    Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do. ~ Benjamin Franklin
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    09-13-2012 09:56 AM
  16. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Sean... most of the negativity I am seeing posted on the iPhone 5 Forum are from disappointed 4/4S owners.

    You forgot to mention the other side of the coin on fanboyism.... a persecution complex.
    The thread was asking specifically about Android users being upset...i didn't forget to mention anything, i simply focused on the topic at hand, there's no persecution complex, there are idiots on all sides of the fence, but in this case, we're talking about how vicious the android fanboys have been and are during Apple product announcements...it simply does not happen with the same frequency with other device announcements (the closest being recent Windows phone releases where the response was very short lived).

    And i actually agree with you that a very large group of 4/4S owners are displaying disappointment, and i can totally understand that, i can understand the migration to other devices too, there are devices out there now that offer things you don't find on the iPhone, i totally get the draw...it's awesome to have choices out there, otherwise we'd all be using the same flip phone, driving the same rental Chevy Malibu and living in the same ranch style 3 bedroom home. Those people are not the ones that grind my gears...it's the ones coming here (on both sides of the fence since you want balance) that tell another person that their preference is wrong, or take shots at the idea that they like something someone else doesn't.

    Now I at times will get drawn into a petty arguments, and i might speak out of line and take a personal shot here and there, but to be honest, i LOVE that other people are finding other phones outside of the iPhone that they whole heartedly love, that means the competition is finally on par and "hopefully" will keep the train moving forward (if all these ***** execs can get past suing each other over everything)...that said, you better believe I'm going to come down on someone taking shots at the iPhone as being some kind of lesser device and that those who prefer it are some how not as intelligent as consumers...I'm going to argue with them until they get tired of it and leave, and if that's what it takes to rid the community of the crap, so be it, i'll take it as a mission (and i know there's an army here to support such).

    We experience anti-iPhone hatred here, the likes of which are not seen at such a magnitude on Android device sites...that was my entire point.
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    09-13-2012 10:17 AM
  17. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Well said Sean.. thanks for your contributions to the community.
    09-13-2012 10:22 AM
  18. tbaptista's Avatar
    Why can't the phone's all just get along.

    I think that it has come to the point where all high-end smart phones do the same thing.. I see no clear winner when it come to any of the phones. I have a 4s and got to check out my friend's Galaxy S3 and was really surprised by how far they have come.

    But lets face it they all have the same main stream apps and they all make phone calls, video chat, texting, email etc......

    So I see the phone market going the way of the computer market where no one will care about the next best phone in the next 3 to 5 years and phone longevity will increase...
    09-13-2012 02:41 PM
  19. durangojim#AC's Avatar
    I love my galaxy nexus with jellybean and find it the most efficient phone I've ever used because of its use of notifications, gmail app, and google maps. However the camera stinks in low light, the battery life is poor when using lte primarily and the phone reception is lousy. If I had a definitive date for the 920, I might purchase that, but I don't so I'll be preordering the 5 for Verizon. I already have a nano sim adapter so I plan on switching between the iPhone and galaxy until I decide which is best for me. I really hope the iPhones indoor low light shots are good.
    09-13-2012 03:28 PM
  20. _X_'s Avatar
    I think the only People that are upset is the iPhone users/blogs who expected more. The most negative thing I've read about the iP5 is that the iP5 caught up to the latest models in HW specs of Android phones or that it finally has many features of last years Android phones. I don't know about you but I don't consider that being upset or bashing the iPhone5.

    =X=
    09-13-2012 04:40 PM
  21. jdod's Avatar
    My entrance in to the smart phone arena was with the Palm Pre- at Sprint. I had already been a member of Precentral.net following the birth of the phone and its progress in the first several months. It was the welcoming spirit at P|C with the willingness of the homebrew crowd to teach and innovate that encouraged me to go webOS. Members there were and still are very respectful of each other and alternate ideas and concepts. The environment encouraged innovation, ideas and expression.

    For now, webOS is in development again. I believe we will see it again some day and I will again be able to use what I think is the best mobile OS I have ever used on a phone (I still get to use my Touchpad and look forward to LunaCE when out of beta).

    Until that day comes, I had to take a side road, and have a 4S. Its a great phone, no question. I understand how it is many peoples favorite. I am also waiting for the Nexus Note 2 to come to Sprint (hopefully!), I may just get it AND the iPhone 5. And I really like what I see ahead with Windows 8 Mobile. Who know what I will get, they are all GREAT phones.

    What is not great is having to listen to fanboys from ALL the platforms talk about the others. There are unkind and uninformed fanboys from all the major platforms that can't handle someone else having a different thought or belief, no platform is any better than the other from what I have seen.

    Now if YOU are not a fanboy and you in fact believe that in free markets, we have choices, and we make choices based upon whats best for us at the time, and respect other people's choices, then don't get your panties in a wad, this post was not for you.

    If YOU are a fanboy, go ahead and spew, I am going to read your post and LAUGH!

    Respectfully, thanks for reading.
    09-14-2012 10:36 AM
  22. grunt0300's Avatar
    I'm one Android user who is not upset by the release of the iPhone5. I used to use an iPhone, and the rest of my family still does. Whatever works for you, is what you need. My wife and one of my daughters, are eligible for an upgrade now. They're not into blogging, or joining these types of websites, but they do have one question that they would like me to ask for them. If this has been asked before, then i apologize. They both love the LED light that flashes when i get an email, text or phone call. I guess that you know where i'm going with this. Is there a dedicated LED light, on the front of the iPhone5, that alerts you for emails, etc? I think that they'll both get the new iPhone anyway, but it would be nice. Thanks.
    09-14-2012 11:01 AM
  23. kch50428's Avatar
    Is there a dedicated LED light, on the front of the iPhone5, that alerts you for emails, etc?
    No, there is no LED notification. And I hope there never is one on any future iPhone.
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    09-14-2012 11:06 AM
  24. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Personally... I cant wait to see the "Hitler is upset with the iPhone 5". At the time it came out, I had just bought the 4S... still I thought it was funny as hell.

    My favorite line was "How can people know that I am better than them if they cant tell the new phone from the old phone?" (4 vs 4S)

    Lucky for us... that wont be a problem with the 5.

    You dont want to be so much of a fan/enthusiast that you cant laugh at yourself sometimes.
    09-14-2012 11:10 AM
  25. Fausty82's Avatar
    I'll admit to being a fanboy to a point... and at times I do get caught up the emotion of it all... but I also recognize that there are other devices out there that work better for some people. When I had a BlackBerry, I used to ridicule the iPhone users and their "toys". Now that I have an iPhone, I do, on occasion, poke at the Android folks... but I consider it all good natured fun, and have learned that if you're gonna dish it out, you need to be able to take it. And yeah, sometimes you do have to laugh at yourself. Life's too short to be a real Richard about stuff.
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    09-14-2012 11:15 AM
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