1. ajw2495's Avatar
    hey guys. just a little confused.. before my iPhone 4S I had an iPhone 4. I was grandfathered into an unlimited Verizon data plan. When I preordered the for 4S, I was still locked into the unlimited data plan. Now however I'm hearing that even though I was/still am grandfathered in, I'm going to have to pay for the new data plans and wont be able to get unlimited data anyway. is this correct? I really hope it's not but from what I'm hearing I'm guessing that it is
    08-15-2012 10:42 PM
  2. Eileen89's Avatar
    You will still be able to keep your unlimited data plan with Verizon as long as you pay full retail price for the phone. Anyone who upgrades at the discounted price point will have their unlimited data plan removed.
    08-15-2012 10:48 PM
  3. ajw2495's Avatar
    well i dont plan on doing that...
    08-15-2012 11:02 PM
  4. ghostface147's Avatar
    well i dont plan on doing that...
    So then you'll be using your 4S for a very long time then. Doesn't matter if it's an iPhone, Blackberry, Android or even Windows Phone. You will lose your unlimited data unless you pay full price.
    08-15-2012 11:37 PM
  5. Premium1's Avatar
    yep sadly unless you pay full price you no longer get unlimited data.
    08-16-2012 12:09 AM
  6. cardfan's Avatar
    Yep, Verizon knows they got you. If you want an LTE iphone, you'll have to pay up or take the data sharing plan. Most will choose the latter.
    08-16-2012 09:00 AM
  7. kch50428's Avatar
    Yep, Verizon knows they got you. If you want an LTE iphone, you'll have to pay up or take the data sharing plan. Most will choose the latter.
    One can easily go to their 'my Verizon' page, analyze their use and determine an average data use, and find a tier that will meet their needs while allowing for some room for not getting overages. And if they're lucky, they might save a little $$ in the deal.
    08-16-2012 09:07 AM
  8. cardfan's Avatar
    One can easily go to their 'my Verizon' page, analyze their use and determine an average data use, and find a tier that will meet their needs while allowing for some room for not getting overages. And if they're lucky, they might save a little $$ in the deal.
    None of the iphone users on Verizon have LTE. You can't go by past 3G use.

    What if dial up users figured, welp, i used less than 100mb every month, i'll be fine with a 500mb broadband cap... Nevermind the dial up user hardly used it because it was so slow. Or couldn't even stream video.

    LTE will allow users to do things faster, things they couldn't do before on 3G, and more often. They'll be consuming more data. The iphone will have a bigger screen urging more data use.
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    08-16-2012 09:18 AM
  9. kch50428's Avatar
    LTE will allow users to do things faster, things they couldn't do before on 3G, and more often. They'll be consuming more data. The iphone will have a bigger screen urging more data use.
    Anyone with even less than half a lick of sense will be able to take that into account when selecting their tier level for a new plan...
    08-16-2012 09:28 AM
  10. Thegreatone3's Avatar
    My usage about doubled when I switched from a 3G phone (iPhone 4) to a 4G one (Razr Maxx).
    08-16-2012 09:40 AM
  11. Premium1's Avatar
    My usage about doubled when I switched from a 3G phone (iPhone 4) to a 4G one (Razr Maxx).
    Agree with lte your data will increase because of faster speeds even if it's an iphone. Plus their new share plans are a rip off to 99% of people anyway who will get stuck paying more if they stick with verizon.
    08-16-2012 11:58 AM
  12. Rusty Shackelford#IM's Avatar
    I was running 2 iPhone 4's with unlimited everything grandfathered in. Called verizon, they gave me an average data usage over the course of 6 months. Never have we gone over 4 gig combined in a month and that was with using tethering for two iPads. We switched to the share everything with 8 gig a month for good measure and have still not gone over. Not to mention, because they don't charge for tethering on the SE plans we are saving about 90$ a month. Even if I bump up to 10 gig shared I will be saving 70$ a month.

    I think a lot depends on what kind of user you are and how much data you need.

    The best part for me at this point is that when the next iPhone comes out, my plan is already compatible with it. Good luck to all making the decision, but my experience thus far has been a very positive one.
    08-16-2012 12:14 PM
  13. 3cit's Avatar
    I have an LTE android device grandfathered into the unlimited data, as well as an iPhone, and
    My understanding is that if we ever use an "upgrade" price we will have to switch to the family share plan. Which for myself and my two devices is not a good thing!
    08-16-2012 02:38 PM
  14. sudbury78's Avatar
    See I am torn what to do as posted in an earlier post. My iPad lte is on a 1gb plan and I have yet to ever go over and I use it daily, granted lots of time home in wifi. I do real estate so if I'm jot out and about I am on wifi. I was planning on selling my 4s now to get top dollar and buy new one at retail. BUT, I am somewhat cautious if the potential battery is an issue on 4g like all the androids are. I would probably go back to my 4s if I still had it. Ugh.
    08-16-2012 03:17 PM
  15. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    I have an LTE android device grandfathered into the unlimited data, as well as an iPhone, and
    My understanding is that if we ever use an "upgrade" price we will have to switch to the family share plan. Which for myself and my two devices is not a good thing!
    Yes. That's correct.

    If I had to guess, at some point in time in the future, I'm sure Verizon will force all grandfathered unlimited data plans to switch to the tiered plans no matter what whether you upgrade or not. When that time comes, I'll have to take a hard look at other WSPs.
    08-16-2012 04:16 PM
  16. Peligro911's Avatar
    Yes. That's correct.

    If I had to guess, at some point in time in the future, I'm sure Verizon will force all grandfathered unlimited data plans to switch to the tiered plans no matter what whether you upgrade or not. When that time comes, I'll have to take a hard look at other WSPs.
    No that is not correct
    If you use your upgrade they can not force you to change your whole plan you will have 2 options
    Go to new share plan
    Or add 2 gig for 30
    Unless your a brand new customer of course
    I have confirmed this with Verizon twice just to make sure

    Another trick that im going to do is use another lines upgrade that already is on tiered data then esn swap to my line and keep my data ..

    You only lose your data when the line with the unlimited data signs a new contract

    I will keep my unlimited till they rip it from my death grip lol
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    08-16-2012 04:59 PM
  17. Premium1's Avatar
    No that is not correct
    If you use your upgrade they can not force you to change your whole plan you will have 2 options
    Go to new share plan
    Or add 2 gig for 30
    Unless your a brand new customer of course
    I have confirmed this with Verizon twice just to make sure

    Another trick that im going to do is use another lines upgrade that already is on tiered data then esn swap to my line and keep my data ..

    You only lose your data when the line with the unlimited data signs a new contract

    I will keep my unlimited till they rip it from my death grip lol
    There is no 2gig for $30 anymore go check verizons website.
    08-17-2012 10:26 AM
  18. Premium1's Avatar
    Yes. That's correct.

    If I had to guess, at some point in time in the future, I'm sure Verizon will force all grandfathered unlimited data plans to switch to the tiered plans no matter what whether you upgrade or not. When that time comes, I'll have to take a hard look at other WSPs.
    Same. Hopefully att keeps their individual plans and doesn't go all or nothing on share plans and I would seriously consider switching to them. Verizons share plans I'd be paying way more for much less
    08-17-2012 10:27 AM
  19. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    No that is not correct
    If you use your upgrade they can not force you to change your whole plan you will have 2 options
    Go to new share plan
    Or add 2 gig for 30
    Unless your a brand new customer of course
    I have confirmed this with Verizon twice just to make sure

    Another trick that im going to do is use another lines upgrade that already is on tiered data then esn swap to my line and keep my data ..

    You only lose your data when the line with the unlimited data signs a new contract

    I will keep my unlimited till they rip it from my death grip lol
    You didn't read my post.

    I said sometime in the near future Verizon would force all of us with grandfathered data plans to switch whether we wanted to or not. It's quite clear they're doing everything in their power to force those of us with unlimited data to move to a tiered plan. They've figured out another way to force us to do it - pay full price for a phone which many people won't do - or switch to a tiered plan for a subsidized phone price.

    Again, to repeat what I said so I'm clear - I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon forces those of us with grandfathered unlimited data plans to change to a tiered plan at some point in time no matter what. Change by X date or you'll automatically be enrolled in the 4GB shared plan unless you call us and change your GB allowance but you will be changed and there's nothing any of us can do about it.

    Edit - and like the other poster said, the 2GB for $30 is gone. It's shared data plans only now for smart phones. There are no other options.
    Last edited by NobodyListenstoLaura; 08-17-2012 at 10:35 AM.
    08-17-2012 10:32 AM
  20. zwoof's Avatar
    I think the cap sucks, It's a ripoff and there's no need to offer up a cafeteria plan and dump unlimited because the network can handle the traffic. These carriers are just holding back so they can make an easy buck off the consumer. I'm gonna hang on to my unlimited data as long as possible. I have an iphone already so I see no need to upgrade early and lose the unlimited plan.
    08-18-2012 11:27 PM
  21. F34R's Avatar
    There is no 2gig for $30 anymore go check verizons website.
    Something not being on their website doesn't mean it's not there. There are more data plans higher than what is on their website...

    As far as the OP. If it were me, I'd pay full price for the phone, or wait and buy it used from someone who is trying to flip a profit.

    The new plans for me would increase my bill $30 a month. If I pay that for two more years on contract, that's $720 over the next two years. I'd rather just pay for the phone outright for $600 or less, and keep my unlimited data. With three smart phones on my plan now, we haven't used more than 4GB, ever. However, we'd lose that option if we went to unlimited minutes that we'd never use lol. 1400 mins per month for the past two years and we've never used half of them.
    08-19-2012 12:00 PM
  22. Eileen89's Avatar
    Something not being on their website doesn't mean it's not there. There are more data plans higher than what is on their website...

    Verizon no longer offers individual plans, which is why it is no longer available.

    Sent from my iPad LTE using Tapatalk HD.
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    08-20-2012 09:39 AM
  23. RC28's Avatar
    I spoke with a Verizon wireless rep last night. ( Not that they are always right lol.) I was assured that you can still keep an individual data plan, although not unlimited. I think they have them for 2G and 5G. The rep told me that it would cost me about the same as I am paying now for the 2G, except my data would be limited.

    I mentioned they had nothing on the website about this, but he says it still exists. They are trying to move people to the shared plans, but it is not mandatory yet according to him.
    08-24-2012 04:11 PM
  24. zrxoa1's Avatar
    I have two smartphones and three regular phones on my account. If I decide to change one of the regular lines to a smartphone line they do the 2gb/$30 deal. They cannot force me to switch my entire account to share plan.


    Sent from my tricked out Iphone!
    08-24-2012 04:41 PM
  25. Eileen89's Avatar
    I have two smartphones and three regular phones on my account. If I decide to change one of the regular lines to a smartphone line they do the 2gb/$30 deal. They cannot force me to switch my entire account to share plan.


    Sent from my tricked out Iphone!
    Verizon being one of the largest wireless carriers can do whatever they want. They are already forcing people off of their unlimited data plans if and when they upgrade their phones at a discount .


    Sent from my iPhone 4S using Tapatalk
    08-25-2012 08:00 AM
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