1. ThePinkChameleon's Avatar
    My phone has virtually everything themed, and has dozens of tweaks, and you have to remember these are running on top of Apple's stock OS, and my phone works just as good as a stocker. So I don't see why or how themes, which are nothing more than the same UI elements but with different colors or patterns would cause any problems, especially if they were built into the OS by Apple. A theme store would rake in the dough as well.

    Choice is good, After 4 years I'm bored of it, it looks exactly the same as it did on my old 3G! Time for a change, they don't have to completely re-do everything, just a re-fresh would do, some new colors (the dull faded grey and baby blues everywhere look dated and stale) a more modern look.

    And of course there are still glaring holes in iOS, like the fact you still cannot reply to a text message without interrupting what you're doing and going into the SMS app. Widgets would be nice, and for all that is holy, that stupid weather icon that is stuck on 73 degrees and sunny is a joke.

    So there is plenty they can do without hurting anything, it seems the people bored with iOS are those of us that have been using it for years now, Apple needs to do something to keep us around, there are only tens of millions of us!
    ok, as far as themes go--heres my take on it. I've used them on my bb, and yes different OS behaves differently, but i think even if Apple were to make themes avail, then you open up a new door of possible issues. ie. the possibility of creating memory leaks. On my bb, my mem leaks were god awful-i'd lose 20-45mbs daily--reboot everyday or every other. If i didn't shrink my OS, my bb wouldve been toast probably everyday !! Also out of all the themes i had on my bb(100+ ?), there were about 4 that definately did NOT play well with my bb(luckily none ever bricked or nuked my bb). This could also become probmatic on the iPhone as well. I understand Apple has to approve and go thru each app with a fine tooth comb, BUT each device is different even tho it has the same iOS. Again, ie-my bb myself & a couple of the other girls i "knew" had the same OS, but the few bugs i had they didnt & vise versa. So this is why i'm not jumping up and down to have extras on my iPhone-it functions great just as is for me

    Another example of how the same iOS varies on each device is to just take a look at the battery stas that people get. All on the same iOS, some get really bad standby/usage & others get great stats. i am fortunate to get great stats....TG !!

    i understand you and quite a few others want that option to tinker further and have those extra benefits and by all means i don't fault anyone of you. i say if your into it go for it and enjoy

    I can understand that after 4yrs of iOS you could be bored with it--heck, i dont even know how i'll feel about it after 4 yrs either. I was using bb's for 4+yrs and became bored of it, as well as tired of the mem leaks on OS6. So who knows what device i'll be using in 4yrs myself. right now, i'd say i would stick with the iPhone.

    A re-fresh of the icons i would agree would be nice. the weather icon i totally agree with--cheesy that it constantly shows "sunny 73" all the time !! too bad that couldnt really be the weather LOL. With that icon, i honestly would love to see Apple transform into a badge where it updates the temp (hourly perhaps) and is visible without opening up the app--instead of having to -pay/or get a free- for a weather app with this option (currently i have fahrenheit pd versh) Even if they would add condition icons to display on the icon itself according to its weather. so if its cloudy and 65--have the icon display clouds and the temp.

    as for the millions of users on an iPhone, i agree--there are ALOT of us !! everywhere i go i see a bunch of iphones indeed
    01-18-2012 09:38 AM
  2. hardcoreplur's Avatar
    No not at all. Buy a garbage win7 phone or DROID and have fun with the phone force closing every other minute.

    The UI is the way it is for a reason, it's simple and powerful. Customizing and changing things leads to problems and compatibility issues, the things that plague android phones. Period.
    YES! Come to the dark side, we have cupcakes!
    But seriously, I am a Windows Phone 7 user and an ex-Apple store employee. And the iOS UI is boring. The metro UI on the windows phone is simple and powerful with LiveTiles, a useful app list and hub interface makes it easy to use. On my iPad, I can't even find alot of my apps and have to use spotlight search to locate them, and a lack of intergration between the OS and apps makes it annoying to use. On windows phone, i have facebook, twitter, live and linkedin intergrated through the whole OS, and unlike mobileme and icloud, my windows live syncing have never screw me up, and skydrive and mobile office 2010 are basic parts of ownership of a windows phone.
    OH and BY THE WAY... my windows phone has a lot less issues then your iphone. and if it does have and issue, it restarts in 21.200 seconds show me any iphone that can do that. And before i restarted my phone to give you that exact number, my phone had been on for 23 days straight, and if i remember correctly it turned off because it ran out of battery. If i had known i was going to be out of the house for 18 hours, I could have used battery saver and had 2 days of life vs 16 hours with 4 email accounts being pushed, having a consist connect to facebook chat, and 10 apps pulling live tile feeds.

    thanks for hearing me out, but unless you know your enemy, you won't be able to defeat them. I have a feeling the Apple will once again be saying "5 down, 95 to go"
    01-18-2012 04:13 PM
  3. emirozmen's Avatar
    Totally. We need widgets integrated. And so much more...
    01-23-2012 10:19 PM
  4. JRDroid's Avatar
    Let me preface this by saying I didn't read all six pages, so if this is repeat opinion, sorry.

    I agree that the UI is a bit stale. It has been virtually unchanged since 2007. Here are a few things I think Apple could change to change up the experience a bit.

    Steal the Live Tile idea from Windows Phone. For example, the weather icon could change to have the ACTUAL weather and temperature conditions on it instead of the standard 73 and sunny. Maybe add a little animation for clouds, rain, or sunshine right there on the icon. Notification numbers could appear in the icon its self instead of as a badge of the top.

    Add widgets. You could see a 3 day weather forecast at a glance, get a preview of your text without opening messages. Turn things like Wifi or Bluetooth on or off with a single tap. Cycle through several brightness settings (say auto, 1/3, 2/3, and full) without opening a single menu. The possibilities are endless.

    Themes. It would let you give your phone a bit more personality without really changing the UI. Themes that were darker (blacks, reds, blues, dark greens) may help attract some people put off by a UI that may feel a bit "cutesy" at times.

    None of those would really change the UI dramatically but would allow more customization for those who want it and those who don't wouldn't have to use them.
    Last edited by jdevenberg; 01-25-2012 at 12:11 AM.
    01-25-2012 12:07 AM
  5. baseballbert's Avatar
    I use a 4S and WP, and the latter's UI is better. Yes, better. The keyboard, email, skydrive and MS Office are all smoother. Plus, the WP apps are lot more stable. Especially the Facebook app which seems to crash daily on the 4S.

    The social networking integration is also a lot better and it is a lot faster to get I touch with friends on my WP than it is on the 4S (where there are a lot of extra steps to get to where you need to get, not so with WP).

    I'm seriously considering getting the Lumia 900 and only using that. It is a solid OS and one that is worthy of at least checking out at an att store.
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    01-25-2012 12:20 AM
  6. J4rrod's Avatar
    No not at all. Buy a garbage win7 phone or DROID and have fun with the phone force closing every other minute.

    The UI is the way it is for a reason, it's simple and powerful. Customizing and changing things leads to problems and compatibility issues, the things that plague android phones. Period.
    Lol, I'm very excited to hear what kind of iSheep reason why Windows Phone is garbage. Ok. Let's hear it.
    01-25-2012 02:33 AM
  7. ThePinkChameleon's Avatar
    Let me preface this by saying I didn't read all six pages, so if this is repeat opinion, sorry.

    Steal the Live Tile idea from Windows Phone. For example, the weather icon could change to have the ACTUAL weather and temperature conditions on it instead of the standard 73 and sunny. Maybe add a little animation for clouds, rain, or sunshine right there on the icon. Notification numbers could appear in the icon its self instead of as a badge of the top.

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    jdevenberg, i also mentioned this about the weather app on iOS. It would be a really nice feature if Apple considered doing this, but at the same time, they would also have to weigh out how battery life would be affected with something like that kind of app
    01-25-2012 09:14 AM
  8. Jeremy's Avatar
    Lol, I'm very excited to hear what kind of iSheep reason why Windows Phone is garbage. Ok. Let's hear it.
    Really no need for name calling is there? Especially in your very first post here...
    01-25-2012 12:38 PM
  9. JRDroid's Avatar
    jdevenberg, i also mentioned this about the weather app on iOS. It would be a really nice feature if Apple considered doing this, but at the same time, they would also have to weigh out how battery life would be affected with something like that kind of app
    My HTC Titan running Windows Phone (and my HD7 before that) both had multiple icons that updated in this sort of fashion, including weather. I have not noticed a huge difference in battery life from them to my iPhone. In fact I am inclined to think that the Titan had superior battery life to my iPhone. I could go through two days without charging my Titan if I used it lightly. I can get about a day and a half out of the iPhone with similar use. In short, I don't think it would affect battery that much. The weather app would only need to check in to update every 30 minutes or every hour, compared to email that is set to push or update every 15 minutes, that would be nothing.
    01-25-2012 10:56 PM
  10. JRDroid's Avatar
    Lol, I'm very excited to hear what kind of iSheep reason why Windows Phone is garbage. Ok. Let's hear it.
    I am a big Windows Phone fan, and will go back to Windows phone from iOS when Apollo launches (as long as it brings higher screen resolution with it), but there are things the iPhone is better at. As good as Windows Phone is at multi-media compared to Android, it is still 2nd to the iPhone in that regard. App selection on the iPhone blows Windows Phone out of the water. There are apps I use frequently on my iPhone that are not available on Windows Phone (Mint, Hanging with Friends, Instagram, Hulu+, and HGTV to GO come to mind of the top of my head). Plust there are apps that, while available on WP, offer greater functionality on iOS. A great example is Flixter. The iOS version allows you to watch UltraViolet digital copies where WP version does not.

    That said SkyDrive is much better (for me) than iCloud. I like being able to acces my photos from any web connected device, not restricted like iCloud. There are no office apps as good as Microsoft Office for iOS. The Facebook integration in Windows Phone blows away iOS's version. It is taking me honestly 10x as long to connect contacts who are listed under a different name in my contact book to their Facebook than it did in Windows Phone. Live Tiles are amazing and I miss them dearly.

    For me, once Windows Phone is available on hardware comprable to the iPhone, Windows is the better fit, but I can certainly understand why some would prefer iOS. What I don't understand is how anyone would pick Android over either iOS or Windows Phone. Before iOS 4 and Windows Phone 7.5 it was understandable because of the lack of things like MMS and Multi-Tasking, but now I see no advantage Android has over either platform. [/OT]


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    01-25-2012 11:07 PM
  11. bbui4's Avatar
    Nope absolutely not. I actually love the UI. It's nice and most stuff looks way prettier than the things I have seen on WP and Android.

    If you want a lot of customization? Go for it. But I actually dislike all those little gadgets and stuff being on all of those screen, not being looked at ever.
    Wait....you don't look at your screen? Widgets/live tiles provide updated information without needed to open up each individual app. Its not for everyone but I'm sure there are some people who actually look at their screen and want that information.
    02-23-2012 04:09 AM
  12. yojojo3311's Avatar
    I too am anticipating the next release from Apple - I will say this though - I had a brief stint relationship with a Samsung Galaxy SII as a "work" phone and quickly ran back to my iPhone!!! A friend of mine (and previous iPhoner) says he loves his Mot Droid X....I asked him to shoot video of me at open mic night - we couldn't pull it up afterwards.... tried finding an email that was sent to him last week - phone shut down.... things/stories like these surround his phone usage and yet he still "loves" this device - maybe because it is free!
    02-23-2012 10:07 AM
  13. Adawg1203's Avatar
    Sorry but I am hopping on the bandwagon that a refresh is in order. Apple can most certainly add the ability for users to customize there devices more, WITHOUT introducing glitches, freezing, and whatever other concerns people listed. The only impact customizations will have on the end user is, you will have a choice, to customize or not to customize. Just like our friends on some of the other platforms primarily, Google.

    Having the ability to cusotmize your phone more, is by no means intrusive to those who like the device plain jane style. I had many android devices and never was I forced to make changes outside of the stock setup like some of you imply. It was my choice to add widgets or pictures, contacts, etc to the multiple screens. That's the beauty of having options. Personally, I think what people say about Google device issues is overblown, its not like the iphone doesn't have faults of its own.

    Apple added the notification screen with the latest software release. If many of you recall prior to that release many folks hated the idea. And now, no one even mentions it and they still love there devices. Why, becasue its not intrusive. You either use it or you don't. Why would a UI update be any different???

    As mentioned by someone already, change is good, and RIM is an excellent example of what happens when you don't.
    Last edited by Adawg1203; 02-23-2012 at 12:59 PM.
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    02-23-2012 12:57 PM
  14. Eskemo30's Avatar
    nothing to do with the topic but what does OP and IMO mean?
    02-23-2012 03:18 PM
  15. Premium1's Avatar
    nothing to do with the topic but what does OP and IMO mean?
    OP=Original post/poster
    IMO= In my opinion.
    02-23-2012 03:50 PM
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