1. Jeremy's Avatar
    yeah and some at&t stores got cases for a supposed iphone with a larger screen and look how that turned out....
    Actually prove to me that happened. That was total BS and I said it back then. You don't want to go around in the same circle we went around last time do you?

    *And I'm not saying the next iPhone will or will not have LTE. Just to be clear.
    02-01-2012 01:45 PM
  2. Premium1's Avatar
    Actually prove to me that happened. That was total BS and I said it back then. You don't want to go around in the same circle we went around last time do you?

    *And I'm not saying the next iPhone will or will not have LTE. Just to be clear.
    I'm just saying you can't believe every possible rumor that goes out. Apple is the last to move to something so I could see them waiting again for lte. People would still buy it just like they did the 4s.
    02-01-2012 06:25 PM
  3. grunt0300's Avatar
    Just how much faster is 4G, or 4G LTE over 3G?
    02-01-2012 11:21 PM
  4. cardfan's Avatar
    Just how much faster is 4G, or 4G LTE over 3G?
    Much faster. But don't think many of apple's target audience cares. A retina screen will sell the ipad 3 while a new form factor (along with iOS 6) would be enough for the iphone 5.

    The question really isn't can apple do LTE. But do they want or need to yet? Thinking ahead, what's compelling about an ipad 4? At that point after we've already gotten the retina we're all craving, it's internal bumps (no complaints from me) and yawns (from the clueless). With an iphone 5S, it's a repeat of the 4S critics crying how it will look the same. Saving LTE for those upgrades in 2013 could be smarter.

    Personally, i don't care much yet given i probably won't see LTE (AT&T)in my area for a long time.
    02-02-2012 08:08 AM
  5. Jeremy's Avatar
    I'm just saying you can't believe every possible rumor that goes out. Apple is the last to move to something so I could see them waiting again for lte. People would still buy it just like they did the 4s.
    Okay, I agree with that. That happens to be true though. But what it's for I truly don't know.
    02-02-2012 10:57 AM
  6. grunt0300's Avatar
    Much faster. But don't think many of apple's target audience cares. A retina screen will sell the ipad 3 while a new form factor (along with iOS 6) would be enough for the iphone 5.

    The question really isn't can apple do LTE. But do they want or need to yet? Thinking ahead, what's compelling about an ipad 4? At that point after we've already gotten the retina we're all craving, it's internal bumps (no complaints from me) and yawns (from the clueless). With an iphone 5S, it's a repeat of the 4S critics crying how it will look the same. Saving LTE for those upgrades in 2013 could be smarter.

    Personally, i don't care much yet given i probably won't see LTE (AT&T)in my area for a long time.
    I know that it's only talk, but people that i know in my area (Sarasota, Fl.), say that LTE will be here within the year. If Apple does go with a new form factor, a la Android, isn't Apple running the risk of people jumping ship, by not keeping up with the latest trends? Just my opinion.
    02-02-2012 11:18 AM
  7. Premium1's Avatar
    Much faster. But don't think many of apple's target audience cares. A retina screen will sell the ipad 3 while a new form factor (along with iOS 6) would be enough for the iphone 5.

    The question really isn't can apple do LTE. But do they want or need to yet? Thinking ahead, what's compelling about an ipad 4? At that point after we've already gotten the retina we're all craving, it's internal bumps (no complaints from me) and yawns (from the clueless). With an iphone 5S, it's a repeat of the 4S critics crying how it will look the same. Saving LTE for those upgrades in 2013 could be smarter.

    Personally, i don't care much yet given i probably won't see LTE (AT&T)in my area for a long time.
    I think more care about lte than you think especially with verizon and how slow their 3g network is not to mention they are getting less and less 3g phones and wanting to move as many customers as they can to their lte network. Not to mention at&t and sprint are rolling out/will be rolling out their lte networks.
    02-02-2012 09:24 PM
  8. Timhewitt's Avatar
    People may care about LTE but they won't stand for 4 hour battery life.

    Apple will wait until the low power chip sets are available in quantity - which is most likely another year.
    02-02-2012 10:00 PM
  9. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    There comes a point where the numbers become more attractive than the actual usefulness, and i personally think this is the case with LTE. I form this opinion much like i do with Comcast, where people brag about the various speeds they experience in different cities, but many don't realize that the difference between those getting 12mbps and 20mbps are really negligible when it comes to what they will actually use or speeds they will actually experience while surfing the web or downloading things.

    With LTE vs. the speeds you see with 3G/4G in today's market, what you actually use is pretty negligible...i mean sure, it's nice to be able to see a substantially higher speed coming from your hopped up hot rod of a phone, but it's essentially like driving a pro drag car on the street, you can smoke the tires and show off the big shiny engine to everyone, but when it comes down to it, the guy driving the nice sports car is nearly as fast where it counts, and is laughing at you when you've run out of gas a mile down the road.

    Bottom line, i know some people are purely about numbers...it'll never change. Overclock this, LTE that...it becomes less about what they actually use and more about having the fastest everything according to the numbers. I've got no problem with that, some people love to show off muscle...I'm happy with the speeds i get from the 3G service on my iPhone both tethering and on the handset itself...even if it doesn't grunt and intimidate people, its certainly as potent as anyone would really use in the real world these days.

    LTE


    3G/4G
    02-03-2012 07:46 AM
  10. cardfan's Avatar
    I think more care about lte than you think especially with verizon and how slow their 3g network is not to mention they are getting less and less 3g phones and wanting to move as many customers as they can to their lte network. Not to mention at&t and sprint are rolling out/will be rolling out their lte networks.
    Since when did Apple start worrying about what a few people care about? Apple will do what's best for Apple. And right now that isn't LTE. Its target mainstream market isn't there yet (that's apple's priority, not us, the techie or geeky segment of their market).

    Please note, i'm not saying LTE is a bad thing. We all want faster. I'd like it as well. This is about do we think the iphone 5 will have it. I don't think so. There's good reasons for both pro & con. But when it's apple, i usually side on the cons. It's usually been the case that it's not likely to happen in such cases.
    02-03-2012 09:33 AM
  11. Jeremy's Avatar
    There comes a point where the numbers become more attractive than the actual usefulness, and i personally think this is the case with LTE. I form this opinion much like i do with Comcast, where people brag about the various speeds they experience in different cities, but many don't realize that the difference between those getting 12mbps and 20mbps are really negligible when it comes to what they will actually use or speeds they will actually experience while surfing the web or downloading things.

    With LTE vs. the speeds you see with 3G/4G in today's market, what you actually use is pretty negligible...i mean sure, it's nice to be able to see a substantially higher speed coming from your hopped up hot rod of a phone, but it's essentially like driving a pro drag car on the street, you can smoke the tires and show off the big shiny engine to everyone, but when it comes down to it, the guy driving the nice sports car is nearly as fast where it counts, and is laughing at you when you've run out of gas a mile down the road.

    Bottom line, i know some people are purely about numbers...it'll never change. Overclock this, LTE that...it becomes less about what they actually use and more about having the fastest everything according to the numbers. I've got no problem with that, some people love to show off muscle...I'm happy with the speeds i get from the 3G service on my iPhone both tethering and on the handset itself...even if it doesn't grunt and intimidate people, its certainly as potent as anyone would really use in the real world these days.
    I agree and have always felt this way. My 6-8 down is more than ample. I don't need to go faster on a mobile network just to have horrid battery drain. Not to mention go thru my data even faster if AT&T is going to be throttling.
    02-03-2012 11:00 AM
  12. Premium1's Avatar
    Since when did Apple start worrying about what a few people care about? Apple will do what's best for Apple. And right now that isn't LTE. Its target mainstream market isn't there yet (that's apple's priority, not us, the techie or geeky segment of their market).

    Please note, i'm not saying LTE is a bad thing. We all want faster. I'd like it as well. This is about do we think the iphone 5 will have it. I don't think so. There's good reasons for both pro & con. But when it's apple, i usually side on the cons. It's usually been the case that it's not likely to happen in such cases.
    So 80 million+ customers are a few people?
    02-03-2012 06:34 PM
  13. Premium1's Avatar
    I agree and have always felt this way. My 6-8 down is more than ample. I don't need to go faster on a mobile network just to have horrid battery drain. Not to mention go thru my data even faster if AT&T is going to be throttling.
    The only difference is verizon customers don't get that luxury on 3g.
    02-03-2012 06:36 PM
  14. Jeremy's Avatar
    The only difference is verizon customers don't get that luxury on 3g.
    This is true but at the same time, not my problem.
    02-03-2012 07:16 PM
  15. cardfan's Avatar
    So 80 million+ customers are a few people?
    You trying to say all of verizon's customers care about LTE? I suppose the iphone 4S never had a chance on verizon. Oh wait.. Bet ya an iphone 5 without LTE will still murder all the other phones released on Verizon this year.
    Last edited by cardfan; 02-03-2012 at 07:24 PM.
    02-03-2012 07:21 PM
  16. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Just how much faster is 4G, or 4G LTE over 3G?
    On the Sprint network, 4G was a heck of a lot faster than 3G, but I can't speak for the other networks. Furthermore, 3G speeds on the Verizon network with my iPhone 4S is fast enough to where speed is a nonissue for me. Is Sprint's 4G speeds noticeably faster than Verizon's 3G speed in *my* experience? Yes, but, as I aforementioned, it's fast enough to where it's not an issue for me. I hope that made sense.


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    02-03-2012 07:34 PM
  17. Premium1's Avatar
    You trying to say all of verizon's customers care about LTE? I suppose the iphone 4S never had a chance on verizon. Oh wait.. Bet ya an iphone 5 without LTE will still murder all the other phones released on Verizon this year.
    The 4s came out when verizon still was spotty at best with their lte. What I am saying and seems to be so hard for so many of you to understand, is that verizon is really pushing their lte network and I could see them pass on the next iphone if it does not have lte. It isn't like verizon wasn't doing fine before the iphone and could still sell what they already have.
    02-03-2012 08:03 PM
  18. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    The 4s came out when verizon still was spotty at best with their lte. What I am saying and seems to be so hard for so many of you to understand, is that verizon is really pushing their lte network and I could see them pass on the next iphone if it does not have lte. It isn't like verizon wasn't doing fine before the iphone and could still sell what they already have.
    You're right that Verizon is focusing hard on getting their devices LTE compliant, but for them to pass on the next iPhone if it is not LTE compliant is unlikely, in *my* opinion. That is far too much money for them to let slip away especially if there's no overwhelming outcry for the next iPhone to be an LTE device.


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    Last edited by JustMe'D; 02-03-2012 at 10:42 PM.
    02-03-2012 09:12 PM
  19. Jeremy's Avatar
    On the Sprint network, 4G was a heck of a lot faster than 3G, but I can't speak for the other networks. Furthermore, 3G speeds on the Verizon network with my iPhone 4S is fast enough to where speed is a nonissue for me. Is Sprint's 4G speeds noticeably faster than Verizon's 3G speed in *my* experience? Yes, but, as I aforementioned, it's fast enough to where it's not an issue for me. I hope that made sense.


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    Reason being Sprint technically doesn't have 4G rather Wimax. Big difference. But they will be rolling out real LTE 4G in the near future.
    02-03-2012 09:52 PM
  20. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Reason being Sprint technically doesn't have 4G rather Wimax. Big difference. But they will be rolling out real LTE 4G in the near future.
    You're absolutely right.


    Just Me, D
    02-03-2012 10:41 PM
  21. Timhewitt's Avatar
    The 4s came out when verizon still was spotty at best with their lte. What I am saying and seems to be so hard for so many of you to understand, is that verizon is really pushing their lte network and I could see them pass on the next iphone if it does not have lte. It isn't like verizon wasn't doing fine before the iphone and could still sell what they already have.
    Verizon will not pass on the iPhone without LTE, but even if they did would Apple care?
    02-04-2012 03:55 AM
  22. Cleveland's Avatar
    Probably not - the millions upon millions that would want the iPhone would go to another carrier to get it for the most part
    02-04-2012 07:42 AM
  23. Jeremy's Avatar
    Verizon will not pass on the iPhone without LTE, but even if they did would Apple care?
    I disagree. Verizon would take whatever Apple offers them. They'd be fools not to.
    02-04-2012 09:50 AM
  24. Timhewitt's Avatar
    You disagree with what? I said Verizon will not pass on the iPhone. I know it's a difficult construct, but it means they will take whatever Apple releases...
    02-04-2012 10:24 AM
  25. Jeremy's Avatar
    You disagree with what? I said Verizon will not pass on the iPhone. I know it's a difficult construct, but it means they will take whatever Apple releases...
    Read your post wrong. My fault.
    02-04-2012 12:52 PM
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