1. deadly_shuriken's Avatar
    Still feel ripped off for buying this instead of waiting for a real upgrade...

    I know the technical stuff and all the pretty numbers apple shows in their conf but in real life what do u guys think makes this 4s better than the 4?


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    08-03-2012 04:28 PM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    The technical stuff.
    08-03-2012 04:31 PM
  3. GPAbsinthe's Avatar
    I do also like the pretty numbers...
    08-03-2012 04:43 PM
  4. Garz's Avatar
    You probably should go back and watch the keynote
    BLiNK, sprocket2107 and Fausty82 like this.
    08-03-2012 05:03 PM
  5. Rockdog97's Avatar
    I personally like the "S"
    08-03-2012 05:06 PM
  6. sting7k's Avatar
    Still feel ripped off for buying this instead of waiting for a real upgrade...

    I know the technical stuff and all the pretty numbers apple shows in their conf but in real life what do u guys think makes this 4s better than the 4?


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    The processor, the camera, support for HSPA+, and Siri are the only differences. It's up to you if those are worth the price and "better".
    08-03-2012 05:19 PM
  7. BLiNK's Avatar
    it's not an android. duh.
    08-03-2012 05:20 PM
  8. Massie's Avatar
    When iOS 6 drops you'll get a bunch of features that the iP4 doesn't: turn by turn navigation, flyover, etc. And you already get Siri, AirPlay mirroring, face detection, etc...
    sunrat39 likes this.
    08-03-2012 05:52 PM
  9. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Still feel ripped off for buying this instead of waiting for a real upgrade...

    I know the technical stuff and all the pretty numbers apple shows in their conf but in real life what do u guys think makes this 4s better than the 4?


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    I'm curious if you realized this wasn't a "real upgrade" until after your return period ended. What is it with
    some of you and this notion that you haven't gotten your money's worth. There are almost endless opportunities
    to just return a product if you don't like it.
    Fausty82 likes this.
    08-05-2012 03:03 PM
  10. MRSBROWN2006's Avatar
    This was an upgrade to me, as I had no iphone prior, and was coming from 4+yrs on blackberry os. Will be nice though to get os6 updates going forward. Happy with my purchase.


    Sent from my iPhone 4s using Tapatalk
    08-05-2012 06:53 PM
  11. GPAbsinthe's Avatar
    I'm curious if you realized this wasn't a "real upgrade" until after your return period ended. What is it with
    some of you and this notion that you haven't gotten your money's worth. There are almost endless opportunities
    to just return a product if you don't like it.
    Yeah and upon going back to iPhone 4 he'd finally realize just how "not real" that upgrade was... Meanwhile, I for one would never go back to iPhone 4.
    08-05-2012 07:45 PM
  12. deadly_shuriken's Avatar
    I'm curious if you realized this wasn't a "real upgrade" until after your return period ended. What is it with
    some of you and this notion that you haven't gotten your money's worth. There are almost endless opportunities
    to just return a product if you don't like it.
    I clearly said I dont think its much of an upgrade compared to the i4, coming from a 3gs and having the better cam and front cam were cool but again instead of everyone getting emotional about this you can be objective and look at the facts.
    Hspa+ is not a huge jump in speeds from 3g so real life day to day use does not change much
    Siri, cool first few days but useless after, i can bet most people dont use it after the initial cool factor, its pretty useless and half baked
    Faster processor, again this doesnt affect day to day use and there are barely any apps/games taking advantage of the "faster" cpu
    Better camera, ok it looks a bit nicer but the flash still sucks and the zoom is useless
    I will never buy a .5 version iphone anymore


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    08-08-2012 12:06 AM
  13. cardfan's Avatar
    If you've actually used both an iphone 4 and 4S for any length of time, the differences are obvious. Of course when i say obvious, i realize there's people out there that can't tell the difference between the screens on an ipad 2 vs new ipad.
    08-08-2012 06:32 AM
  14. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Still feel ripped off for buying this instead of waiting for a real upgrade...

    I know the technical stuff and all the pretty numbers apple shows in their conf but in real life what do u guys think makes this 4s better than the 4?


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    What's a "real upgrade"? I can't imagine someone having a 4S and not considering the features you get over the previous model real upgrades. The camera alone was worth an upgrade, as it is arguably the best camera on any phone ever released (and rivals/exceeds most point and shoots). You start adding in the other features you get on the 4S that are not a part of the 4 and you have a very legitimate upgrade vs. the previous model. I mean go ask Siri to search for which one is better...oh that's right, you could only do that if you have a 4S.
    08-08-2012 09:26 AM
  15. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I clearly said I dont think its much of an upgrade compared to the i4, coming from a 3gs and having the better cam and front cam were cool but again instead of everyone getting emotional about this you can be objective and look at the facts.
    Hspa+ is not a huge jump in speeds from 3g so real life day to day use does not change much
    Siri, cool first few days but useless after, i can bet most people dont use it after the initial cool factor, its pretty useless and half baked
    Faster processor, again this doesnt affect day to day use and there are barely any apps/games taking advantage of the "faster" cpu
    Better camera, ok it looks a bit nicer but the flash still sucks and the zoom is useless
    I will never buy a .5 version iphone anymore


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    You clearly said it wasn't a "real" upgrade.

    Still feel ripped off for buying this instead of waiting for a real upgrade...

    I know the technical stuff and all the pretty numbers apple shows in their conf but in real life what do u guys think makes this 4s better than the 4?


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    08-08-2012 11:05 AM
  16. idrewpage's Avatar
    This is a great question. I had an iPhone from 2007 until early this year (ending with an iPhone 4), and I was tired of iPhone, so I tried an Android phone, and then a Windows Phone. I now have a used iPhone 4S. I love it much more than other platforms. I have to say, those other platforms are good, and there is nothing wrong with them. I am not some fanboy that hates everything but iPhone. That being said, there is something intangible about the iPhone that gives you a feeling of wellness and contentment, and thats not there with those other platforms.
    08-08-2012 02:52 PM
  17. deadly_shuriken's Avatar
    What's a "real upgrade"? I can't imagine someone having a 4S and not considering the features you get over the previous model real upgrades. The camera alone was worth an upgrade, as it is arguably the best camera on any phone ever released (and rivals/exceeds most point and shoots). You start adding in the other features you get on the 4S that are not a part of the 4 and you have a very legitimate upgrade vs. the previous model. I mean go ask Siri to search for which one is better...oh that's right, you could only do that if you have a 4S.
    Too bad siri is half baked and you can actually have it on the i4 if u jailbreak, only reason apple didnt give it to the i4 is to have more sales and at least one feature that 4s would have over 4, there is no hardware limitation whatsoever to have siri run unlike what apple tries to make u believe, people need to stop being so blind and believing all the bs apple feeds them

    I love apple and their products, i just hate how it convinces people of bs when its really not a useful feature or even a feature only for that phone. I respect them tho for being able to brainwash people so easy, if it wasnt for that they wouldnt be anywhere near where they are now, or even here at all...


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    08-09-2012 03:26 AM
  18. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Too bad siri is half baked and you can actually have it on the i4 if u jailbreak, only reason apple didnt give it to the i4 is to have more sales and at least one feature that 4s would have over 4, there is no hardware limitation whatsoever to have siri run unlike what apple tries to make u believe, people need to stop being so blind and believing all the bs apple feeds them

    I love apple and their products, i just hate how it convinces people of bs when its really not a useful feature or even a feature only for that phone. I respect them tho for being able to brainwash people so easy, if it wasnt for that they wouldnt be anywhere near where they are now, or even here at all...


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    So you don't care for Siri...that must mean its a complete failure and an unusable feature across the spectrum of people who bought the 4S, am i understanding that right?

    I don't think i need to tell you how pitifully humorous that line of thinking is.

    What BS is Apple trying to sell? The 4S was considered a refresh from them (as the 3GS was), but the phone included enough new features to easily consider it a new phone. Apple never claimed it was anything other than what it was...they put the features out there, they showed it before it went on sale, all the specs were on the market...and yet for some reason, you approach this as if Apple sold a box with "iPhone" on it to blind consumers. How did you come to that ridiculous and asinine assessment? They spelled out every facet of the phone for you before anyone even pre-ordered one, and some how they were BS'ing? Some how they are trying to sell people on features that YOU don't like, so it must be useless to everyone?

    And here we are stuck on ONE feature the 4S brought to the table...what about the list of other things? Let's see how legitimate of an argument you can make when you remove the "I feel" and your opinionated overviews of the features...talk specs, talk numbers, talk factual information. The 4S brought features to the table that were unquestionably better than the iPhone 4, REAL upgrades.

    You have no argument bud, and you sound like the hundreds of other trolls that make asinine attempts at stirring the pot.
    Last edited by SeanHRCC; 08-09-2012 at 09:38 AM.
    08-09-2012 09:31 AM
  19. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Too bad siri is half baked and you can actually have it on the i4 if u jailbreak, only reason apple didnt give it to the i4 is to have more sales and at least one feature that 4s would have over 4, there is no hardware limitation whatsoever to have siri run unlike what apple tries to make u believe, people need to stop being so blind and believing all the bs apple feeds them

    I love apple and their products, i just hate how it convinces people of bs when its really not a useful feature or even a feature only for that phone. I respect them tho for being able to brainwash people so easy, if it wasnt for that they wouldnt be anywhere near where they are now, or even here at all...


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    So you're saying that you're also stupid like us? Okay.
    08-09-2012 01:26 PM
  20. GPAbsinthe's Avatar
    I think... what he's really trying to say is that he was stupid enough to decide ON HIS OWN (NOT Apple's fault) to buy something he now thinks is unworthy of whatever false assessment he had himself formed in his mind when it was released, and now instead of only just blaming himself or learning how to read properly, he's trying to take it out on people who bought the 4S KNOWINGLY and are quite happy with it.

    I guess I could be wrong...
    08-09-2012 02:29 PM
  21. bdhu2001's Avatar
    Being a previous Pre user, I still prefer the form factor of the Pre. I just wish it had more apps and had stayed available with updates. Barring that, I now have the 4s and just like with the Pre, it's the apps that people write for it that make it a nice product.
    I'm extremely happy that I waited for the 4s with Siri, because I've always had a physical keyboard (Treo then Pre). Having the Siri allows me to not make endless mistakes with the virtual keyboard. I'm not sure how good it is compared to the 4, but my friends who previously had iPhone 4 said they love the upgrade.

    I like the built in shortcut feature, how well it autocorrects, and the apps. There are a few favorite apps that I miss from my Pre, but those developers haven't written anything for the iPhone.
    08-10-2012 06:47 PM
  22. edd's Avatar
    When this topic comes up, Siri is always mentioned and I think it gets a bad rap. The # 1 most useful part about it for me is while I'm driving. Calls and texts can be made without taking my eyes off the road, and I've had very good luck asking for directions. Of course, the map pops up at that point and you'll have to look at that at certain times but Siri saves me from pulling over and typing in the begin and end points.
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    08-10-2012 10:24 PM
  23. Fit24's Avatar
    IMHO when purchasing a phone you assume a certain amount of responsibility. I was eligible for an upgrade and decided to try the iP4s after using a BB, even though I knew another iPhone might be coming out soon. It didn't matter to me. I had the freedom to choose so I can't blame anyone or anything for the result. So far I like the iP4s a lot. I just started using Siri and was surprised at how well it works for me. I'm really looking forward to learning more about the iPhone and its capabilities.
    08-11-2012 12:12 AM
  24. Fit24's Avatar
    IMHO feeling ripped off is a matter of perspective and opinion. Regardless of whether there is a difference between the past and current models, a decision was made to purchase the item. It's up to us as individuals to educate ourselves to make the best choice.
    08-11-2012 01:44 AM
  25. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    When this topic comes up, Siri is always mentioned and I think it gets a bad rap. The # 1 most useful part about it for me is while I'm driving. Calls and texts can be made without taking my eyes off the road, and I've had very good luck asking for directions. Of course, the map pops up at that point and you'll have to look at that at certain times but Siri saves me from pulling over and typing in the begin and end points.
    Not only does Siri get a bad rap...but people tend to forget that Siri is a constantly evolving feature, not a stagnant one. The functionality will continuously become better, more in-tune with the user and more plugged into everything people find relevant (from searches to personal assistance with whatever). There will come a point where Siri will surpass the phone itself (as the software learns how to do more, the older model phones will become obsolete like they do with iOS updates)...its a fantastic app for the consumer and a great longevity move for Apple as they will ensure further iPhone users in the future because people WILL buy a new model iPhone for better and better Siri features.
    08-11-2012 09:30 AM
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