1. sherlock's Avatar
    +1 I jailbroke mine just for this reason. I can change the lock screen with a simple respring.
    I jailbreak my iDevices for lots of reasons. This is one of them.
    07-10-2012 03:47 PM
  2. BLiNK's Avatar
    My only question is how long do people stare at the lockscreen or home screen? I look at my windows PC and the lock screen isn't much to write home about. It's locked. Fun times for sure. So i unlock it and get to the desktop. I see a few icons pinned and some random picture that's the background. Again, not much to write home about.

    Things get interesting if i launch an app though..
    exactly!..
    07-10-2012 04:33 PM
  3. Massie's Avatar
    My only question is how long do people stare at the lockscreen or home screen? I look at my windows PC and the lock screen isn't much to write home about. It's locked. Fun times for sure. So i unlock it and get to the desktop. I see a few icons pinned and some random picture that's the background. Again, not much to write home about.

    Things get interesting if i launch an app though..
    Well, I don't just sit and stare at it....it's useful for controlling incoming information, for me. Say I have a notification that I have 3 emails. Instead of unlocking my phone (maybe w/a passcode), launching my mail app, selecting the various messages, and marking each as read or deleting them, something like Lockinfo lets me simply tap the message to mark it as read. Boom, one step.

    Similar situation with SMS: instead of having a bunch of unread but unwanted messages waiting for me in my messages app, BiteSMS lets me mark them as read AND reply to them from the lockscreen, as the arrive. Want to check the weather? On the lockscreen. Reply to a Twitter mention? Lockscreen. So for me it's really about directing/controlling the flow of information more than replicating every function of a bunch of other apps. For instance, I use it to quickly reply to Twitter mentions, but if I want to reply to an email I'll still unlock and use the mail app. Regardless of how far they've come, our phones and our computers are still very different devices in terms of how we use them.
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    07-10-2012 05:31 PM
  4. bravesfan007's Avatar
    About the only thing I would like to see in addition to the time on my lockscreen is the weather. It doesn't even have to be a rain/snow/fog graphic, just two or three digits that show the temperature would be enough for me.
    07-11-2012 10:51 AM
  5. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    About the only thing I would like to see in addition to the time on my lockscreen is the weather. It doesn't even have to be a rain/snow/fog graphic, just two or three digits that show the temperature would be enough for me.
    There are plenty of apps for that if you jailbreak. I have weather on my lockscreen. Some animated, some not.
    07-11-2012 11:57 AM
  6. bravesfan007's Avatar
    There are plenty of apps for that if you jailbreak. I have weather on my lockscreen. Some animated, some not.
    Yeah. I know. I was talking about in the stock form. Jailbroken is a different story, but in the stock form, a weather app and I would be set. Except for the fact that the batter would probably drain quicker because it'd probably update every time the screen turned on to get the most up-to-date temperature and that would suck.
    07-11-2012 02:54 PM
  7. BLiNK's Avatar
    i think Laura is missing the point. not everyone wants to jailbreak, for many different reasons

    Apple clearly is in no hurry to change it either so my advice to anyone that has a problem with it should just look elsewhere
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    07-11-2012 03:09 PM
  8. dublex's Avatar
    The lockscreen really isn't meant to be looked at if you really want to know. That's why the time is so big. usually people just check it for the time and to see if they have notifications. That's it. Now could apple do some cleaning up and get rid of the gloss? Of course. But I don't see anything too drastic in the future for the lockscreen.
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    07-11-2012 09:56 PM
  9. cctpitts01's Avatar
    I agree but then again that is the main reason I ended up jailbreaking it but there is still not a lot you can do with it.
    07-11-2012 09:56 PM
  10. martymapson's Avatar
    I like my iPhone for what it is. I figure if you are bored with it then go buy something else. I feel if you have to jailbreak your iPhone then you evidently are not happy with the iphone, so you may as well go buy an android based phone. An iPhone is beautiful and simple to use. You don't have to worry if your phone will get the latest iOS updates, it just happens without fuss. No spam ware and no carrier crap slowing your phone down. There's an app in the store that will fill almost any need. Everything just works!
    07-11-2012 10:55 PM
  11. taylorz_412's Avatar
    It's simple and clean, the way apple makes everything and I love it


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    07-11-2012 11:02 PM
  12. Daspoo's Avatar
    This is one of the many reasons I jailbreak all my iOS devices.
    Absolutely. There's no reason why the lockscreen can't be both a means for locking the device, and for summarizing notification info locked within the phone. Jailbreak apps like LockInfo (which I use) and Intelliscreen X are perfect examples.
    07-11-2012 11:32 PM
  13. Daspoo's Avatar
    I like my iPhone for what it is. I figure if you are bored with it then go buy something else. I feel if you have to jailbreak your iPhone then you evidently are not happy with the iphone, so you may as well go buy an android based phone. An iPhone is beautiful and simple to use. You don't have to worry if your phone will get the latest iOS updates, it just happens without fuss. No spam ware and no carrier crap slowing your phone down. There's an app in the store that will fill almost any need. Everything just works!
    Why does it have to be all or nothing? I jailbreak because I want a little more functionality than the stock OS provides; but I still enjoy the OS for what it is, outside of the extras I install, and I very much enjoy the iPhone device itself. Jailbreaking shouldn't always imply that a person is against Apple's design, and therefore an enemy of the state (i.e., Apple), which is how comments like the above come across IMO.
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    07-11-2012 11:39 PM
  14. Massie's Avatar
    Exactly!! It's not like we think iPhones stinkmost jailbreakers would say that iPhones are already the best device out there...we just make them even better!
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    07-12-2012 12:08 AM
  15. GPAbsinthe's Avatar
    + 1 on the last two.

    Never had anything before iPhone, no mp3, no i-pod, no old flip handset, nothing. Loved it at first touch. Handled many since (I work in electronics now), Android (Samsung SII, SIII, Nexus, HTC One, etc.), RIM, and I hate the feel of all of them. Like someone said to me, "more open, more features-a-plenty, but somehow with the feel of a beta tester device". Nothing remotely close to the polish of the iPhone. Yeah, the SIII is so great, the screen is so big, and it stays lit when it sees your face... Oooooooh... but did you see just how much a simple text window looks F****** UGLY on this phone?! Cluttered... Cluttered is the word. Yet they're not bad phones, Android, Samsung especially... A different look, for different users and tastes... but as they are now, each of the 1000 of them, none could single-handedly win the market like any iPhone does. Android gets market because there are plenty of them... Samsung gets market because they themselves release kind of a 100 different handsets per year... That's just the plain and painful truth.

    Never was so interested in latest technology before my first iPhone (3GS), nor would I follow any thread about any of it, and I never really even bothered to play with those kind of things. Bought iPhone 4 three months after 3GS... Subscribed here and else... Following iPhone 5 news madly...

    Bottom line : I LOVE the darn thing. And I jailbreak it... myself. You'd told me I'd do that two years ago and I would have laugh in your face. Not that it is that hard, but then again, I would never have known... Yet here I am.

    Also, I don't like those "you should have bought something else" comments, for the same reasons. You simply can't always know everything about what you're buying. And even knowingly, one can choose to buy it no matter what, exactly for the same "love at first feel" I experienced. And then express the regret of not having some functionality, that would make it perfect for them. This is a forum about iPhone, is it?

    I do not agree that they are as perfect as they can be when they are stock. On the other hand, I can't say that every jailbroken app, tweak, theme, utility, is working just as fine (many not at all) as Apple would make it... yet they made mistakes, Apple, too. Obviously, those who curse jailbreaking never used something like SBSettings, nor had the malicious pleasure to replace their carrier name with something like "Suckers" (or worse) to vent off some anger. And then have Bart Simpson skating as a carrier. It's just plain fun... and useful. Did you know, you the "stock Apple" lovers AND jailbreaking haters, that with a jailbroken iPhone you can use FaceTime over 3G, and download anything you want no matter the 20MB filesize restriction? That's just one of the stupid stock restriction that jailbreak makes up for. And, surprise, surprise, iOS 6 will finally allow FaceTime to work over 3G... Don't tell me they had the idea themselves. Please, do not think jailbreakers and developers are a bunch of pathetic teenagers who endanger your devices with pirating tools offering unfinished, clumsy functionnality. Get infos, and you'll see... Apple takes a lot of clues in jailbroken apps for their firmware updates. Even Android does, in order to beat Apple with the unsastisfied users a jailbreaking market suggest... SIII has something like SBSettings integrated to it, yet not as complete. But the truth, like someone said here, is that jailbreakers love their i-Device just as much as any other user.

    As for my reply to the OP, I do agree that Apple is missing something, about letting the user personalize his device. A kind of "Live Animate Notification Center" on Lockscreen could be something great if made by Apple, just like many other ideas people often express in thread like this. I agree with the idea that a lockscreen is basically a LOCKscreen, and I do like it as simple as possible, with a little esthetic touch up, and not displaying infos I don't need. But then again, my taste is not for everyone, and Apple should aknowledge the user desires a little more than they do, and implement some way to personalize a great couple if things. Without drifting into beta tester Android devices. Still, that's not the Apple way, is it? I wouldn't count on it.

    Meanwhile, you can simply jailbreak and change the one or two things you'd like to improve, and leave everything else untouched... But trust me, you'll go back for more and more!
    07-12-2012 06:33 AM
  16. GPAbsinthe's Avatar
    + 1 on the last two.

    Never had anything before iPhone, no mp3, no i-pod, no old flip handset, nothing. Loved it at first touch. Handled many since (I work in electronics now), Android (Samsung SII, SIII, Nexus, HTC One, etc.), RIM, and I hate the feel of all of them. Like someone said to me, "more open, more features-a-plenty, but somehow with the feel of a beta tester device". Nothing remotely close to the polish of the iPhone. Yeah, the SIII is so great, the screen is so big, and it stays lit when it sees your face... Oooooooh... but did you see just how much a simple text window looks F****** UGLY on this phone?! Cluttered... Cluttered is the word. Yet they're not bad phones, Android, Samsung especially... A different look, for different users and tastes... but as they are now, each of the 1000 of them, none could single-handedly win the market like any iPhone does. Android gets market because there are plenty of them... Samsung gets market because they themselves release kind of a 100 different handsets per year... That's just the plain and painful truth.

    Never was so interested in latest technology before my first iPhone (3GS), nor would I follow any thread about any of it, and I never really even bothered to play with those kind of things. Bought iPhone 4 three months after 3GS... Subscribed here and else... Following iPhone 5 news madly...

    Bottom line : I LOVE the darn thing. And I jailbreak it... myself. You'd told me I'd do that two years ago and I would have laugh in your face. Not that it is that hard, but then again, I would never have known... Yet here I am.

    Also, I don't like those "you should have bought something else" comments, for the same reasons. You simply can't always know everything about what you're buying. And even knowingly, one can choose to buy it no matter what, exactly for the same "love at first feel" I experienced. And then express the regret of not having some functionality, that would make it perfect for them. This is a forum about iPhone, is it?

    I do not agree that they are as perfect as they can be when they are stock. On the other hand, I can't say that every jailbroken app, tweak, theme, utility, is working just as fine (many not at all) as Apple would make it... yet they made mistakes, Apple, too. Obviously, those who curse jailbreaking never used something like SBSettings, nor had the malicious pleasure to replace their carrier name with something like "Suckers" (or worse) to vent off some anger. And then have Bart Simpson skating as a carrier. It's just plain fun... and useful. Did you know, you the "stock Apple" lovers AND jailbreaking haters, that with a jailbroken iPhone you can use FaceTime over 3G, and download anything you want no matter the 20MB filesize restriction? That's just one of the stupid stock restriction that jailbreak makes up for. And, surprise, surprise, iOS 6 will finally allow FaceTime to work over 3G... Don't tell me they had the idea themselves. Please, do not think jailbreakers and developers are a bunch of pathetic teenagers who endanger your devices with pirating tools offering unfinished, clumsy functionnality. Get infos, and you'll see... Apple takes a lot of clues in jailbroken apps for their firmware updates. Even Android does, in order to beat Apple with the unsastisfied users a jailbreaking market suggest... SIII has something like SBSettings integrated to it, yet not as complete. But the truth, like someone said here, is that jailbreakers love their i-Device just as much as any other user.

    As for my reply to the OP, I do agree that Apple is missing something, about letting the user personalize his device. A kind of "Live Animate Notification Center" on Lockscreen could be something great if made by Apple, just like many other ideas people often express in thread like this. I agree with the idea that a lockscreen is basically a LOCKscreen, and I do like it as simple as possible, with a little esthetic touch up, and not displaying infos I don't need. But then again, my taste is not for everyone, and Apple should aknowledge the user desires a little more than they do, and implement some way to personalize a great couple if things. Without drifting into beta tester Android devices. Still, that's not the Apple way, is it? I wouldn't count on it.

    Meanwhile, you can simply jailbreak and change the one or two things you'd like to improve, and leave everything else untouched... But trust me, you'll go back for more and more!
    Don't know why the last didn't registered as me being logged in... Well... I'm about to see if THIS is gonna be.
    07-12-2012 06:41 AM
  17. fftaz336's Avatar
    This is another area where Apple has fallen way behind, but don't complain, you're supposed to accept whatever Apple gives you, innovation is for Android/Windows etc..
    You are right. That is why new computers and the new phones are copying the Mac and the iPhone. Because they don't innovate.
    07-12-2012 08:15 AM
  18. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    i think Laura is missing the point. not everyone wants to jailbreak, for many different reasons

    Apple clearly is in no hurry to change it either so my advice to anyone that has a problem with it should just look elsewhere
    No, she hasn't missed the point. She was simply pointing out that there are ways around it but if you don't want to JB, there's nothing you can do with it. Every OS from BB to Android to iOS gets old after a while.
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    07-12-2012 09:48 AM
  19. Fausty82's Avatar
    I'm confused by this whole thread. Isn't the purpose of the lock screen to protect your data, email, messages, etc? If that is true (and it most definitely is true for me), why would you want to put all that "stuff" that you want/need to keep private on the lock screen anyway?

    There are posts throughout this forum from people asking how to lock down photos, messages, etc for whatever personal reasons the OPs have... and yet, here we're told that the lock screen is boring because all it displays is a clock and a button for the camera.

    As far as I am concerned, the lock screen is perfect. It's supposed to be boring so as to not broadcast stuff I choose not to broadcast.

    Jailbreak it and put all your "stuff" on the lock screen for you and the world to see. Or install apps to never allow the lock screen to kick in. It doesn't matter to me. The current lock screen serves the function that is perfect for me - to lock my screen and hide my personal data.

    To each, his/her own.
    Last edited by Fausty82; 07-12-2012 at 11:54 AM.
    07-12-2012 10:17 AM
  20. BLiNK's Avatar
    + 1 on the last two.

    Never had anything before iPhone, no mp3, no i-pod, no old flip handset, nothing. Loved it at first touch. Handled many since (I work in electronics now), Android (Samsung SII, SIII, Nexus, HTC One, etc.), RIM, and I hate the feel of all of them. Like someone said to me, "more open, more features-a-plenty, but somehow with the feel of a beta tester device". Nothing remotely close to the polish of the iPhone. Yeah, the SIII is so great, the screen is so big, and it stays lit when it sees your face... Oooooooh... but did you see just how much a simple text window looks F****** UGLY on this phone?! Cluttered... Cluttered is the word. Yet they're not bad phones, Android, Samsung especially... A different look, for different users and tastes... but as they are now, each of the 1000 of them, none could single-handedly win the market like any iPhone does. Android gets market because there are plenty of them... Samsung gets market because they themselves release kind of a 100 different handsets per year... That's just the plain and painful truth.

    Never was so interested in latest technology before my first iPhone (3GS), nor would I follow any thread about any of it, and I never really even bothered to play with those kind of things. Bought iPhone 4 three months after 3GS... Subscribed here and else... Following iPhone 5 news madly...

    Bottom line : I LOVE the darn thing. And I jailbreak it... myself. You'd told me I'd do that two years ago and I would have laugh in your face. Not that it is that hard, but then again, I would never have known... Yet here I am.

    Also, I don't like those "you should have bought something else" comments, for the same reasons. You simply can't always know everything about what you're buying. And even knowingly, one can choose to buy it no matter what, exactly for the same "love at first feel" I experienced. And then express the regret of not having some functionality, that would make it perfect for them. This is a forum about iPhone, is it?

    I do not agree that they are as perfect as they can be when they are stock. On the other hand, I can't say that every jailbroken app, tweak, theme, utility, is working just as fine (many not at all) as Apple would make it... yet they made mistakes, Apple, too. Obviously, those who curse jailbreaking never used something like SBSettings, nor had the malicious pleasure to replace their carrier name with something like "Suckers" (or worse) to vent off some anger. And then have Bart Simpson skating as a carrier. It's just plain fun... and useful. Did you know, you the "stock Apple" lovers AND jailbreaking haters, that with a jailbroken iPhone you can use FaceTime over 3G, and download anything you want no matter the 20MB filesize restriction? That's just one of the stupid stock restriction that jailbreak makes up for. And, surprise, surprise, iOS 6 will finally allow FaceTime to work over 3G... Don't tell me they had the idea themselves. Please, do not think jailbreakers and developers are a bunch of pathetic teenagers who endanger your devices with pirating tools offering unfinished, clumsy functionnality. Get infos, and you'll see... Apple takes a lot of clues in jailbroken apps for their firmware updates. Even Android does, in order to beat Apple with the unsastisfied users a jailbreaking market suggest... SIII has something like SBSettings integrated to it, yet not as complete. But the truth, like someone said here, is that jailbreakers love their i-Device just as much as any other user.

    As for my reply to the OP, I do agree that Apple is missing something, about letting the user personalize his device. A kind of "Live Animate Notification Center" on Lockscreen could be something great if made by Apple, just like many other ideas people often express in thread like this. I agree with the idea that a lockscreen is basically a LOCKscreen, and I do like it as simple as possible, with a little esthetic touch up, and not displaying infos I don't need. But then again, my taste is not for everyone, and Apple should aknowledge the user desires a little more than they do, and implement some way to personalize a great couple if things. Without drifting into beta tester Android devices. Still, that's not the Apple way, is it? I wouldn't count on it.

    Meanwhile, you can simply jailbreak and change the one or two things you'd like to improve, and leave everything else untouched... But trust me, you'll go back for more and more!
    these are some valid points and nothing that has not been mentioned before over & over in this forum. as of late i have been struggling with the fact that most jailbreak tweaks do not look or feel very iOS like. also it bothers me when there is the slightest imperfection, whether it be a stutter or anything visual. in fact when i encounter anything of the sorts i will remove the tweak/app in order to correct it. because of this my reasons for jailbreaking have been reduced drastically to only a few

    in the end i do not want to have to depend on jailbreaking my device due to the FACT that it is so inconsistent with new firmware updates. seriously, waiting a month or two or three for an Untethered jailbreak is a little ridiculous. i like giving the latest and greatest firmware a go as soon as it comes out (or before ) NOT wait..

    just to be clear i am not against jailbreaking at all. i have been with the iPhone for almost 4 years now and probably have been collectively jailbroken for most of it. i go back & forth all of the time
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    07-12-2012 11:40 AM
  21. ransonju's Avatar
    I'm confused by this whole thread. Isn't the purpose of the lock screen to protect your data, email, messages, etc? If that is true (and it most definitely is true for me), why would you want to put all that "stuff" that you want/need to keep private on the lock screen anyway?

    There are posts throughout this forum from people asking how to lock down photos, messages, etc for whatever personal reasons the OPs have... and yet, here we're told that the lock screen is boring because all it displays is a clock and a button for the camera.

    As far as I am concerned, the lock screen is perfect. It's supposed to be boring so as to not broadcast stuff I choose not to broadcast.

    Jailbreak it and put all your "stuff" on the lock screen for you and the world to see. Or install apps to never allow the lock screen to kick in. It doesn't matter to me. The current lock screen serves the function that is perfect for me - to lock my screen and hide my personal data.

    To each, his/her own.
    +1

    Couldn't agree more.
    07-12-2012 12:34 PM
  22. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    I'm confused by this whole thread. Isn't the purpose of the lock screen to protect your data, email, messages, etc? If that is true (and it most definitely is true for me), why would you want to put all that "stuff" that you want/need to keep private on the lock screen anyway?

    [snip]

    Jailbreak it and put all your "stuff" on the lock screen for you and the world to see. Or install apps to never allow the lock screen to kick in. It doesn't matter to me. The current lock screen serves the function that is perfect for me - to lock my screen and hide my personal data.

    To each, his/her own.
    Which is why I don't have personal stuff on my lock screen. I don't want someone hearing my phone beep and seeing an email, Tweet, Facebook status or text that was private. All of those notifications are turned off for a reason.

    Now if someone wants to know the current weather at the Corn Patch on Hee Haw, they're in luck.
    07-12-2012 02:21 PM
  23. Rockdog97's Avatar
    ^^^ yep, that's how it works for me as well.
    07-12-2012 04:23 PM
  24. GPAbsinthe's Avatar
    these are some valid points and nothing that has not been mentioned before over & over in this forum. as of late i have been struggling with the fact that most jailbreak tweaks do not look or feel very iOS like. also it bothers me when there is the slightest imperfection, whether it be a stutter or anything visual. in fact when i encounter anything of the sorts i will remove the tweak/app in order to correct it. because of this my reasons for jailbreaking have been reduced drastically to only a few

    in the end i do not want to have to depend on jailbreaking my device due to the FACT that it is so inconsistent with new firmware updates. seriously, waiting a month or two or three for an Untethered jailbreak is a little ridiculous. i like giving the latest and greatest firmware a go as soon as it comes out (or before ) NOT wait..

    just to be clear i am not against jailbreaking at all. i have been with the iPhone for almost 4 years now and probably have been collectively jailbroken for most of it. i go back & forth all of the time
    Yeah, of course it's been said a hundred times, and not just here... Made me feel better though, after the "jailbreakers should perhaps buy other devices if they don't like the one"... Obviously, as often as it has been said, it is still not understood.

    Thanks for replying, I was worrying about being a tourist here! Feel less like a dork now...

    Think you're quite right about inconsistencies in jailbreak... though there are some invaluable things too that makes up for it. It was easy to see your point and your stance by the way, you did not have to "make yourself clear" at all. My mind is made up quite like yours... When I'll buy the next iPhone, no matter how quick the 6.0 jailbreak is, I'm gonna wait and enjoy it stock for a while. I'll miss my folder enhancer and gridlock (my homescreen rocks IMHO), but I'll make do. Half of the retina themes right now don't even work on 5.1.1, so what if there's a new resolution out there? It'll take a year before Cydia replenishes. And I'll still have my iPhone 4 anyway, so I'll be able to follow things and play around a little.

    Hey... if this post is again registered as Guest, and my personal info doesn't display, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here?
    07-12-2012 04:49 PM
  25. BLiNK's Avatar
    Yeah, of course it's been said a hundred times, and not just here... Made me feel better though, after the "jailbreakers should perhaps buy other devices if they don't like the one"... Obviously, as often as it has been said, it is still not understood.

    Thanks for replying, I was worrying about being a tourist here! Feel less like a dork now...

    Think you're quite right about inconsistencies in jailbreak... though there are some invaluable things too that makes up for it. It was easy to see your point and your stance by the way, you did not have to "make yourself clear" at all. My mind is made up quite like yours... When I'll buy the next iPhone, no matter how quick the 6.0 jailbreak is, I'm gonna wait and enjoy it stock for a while. I'll miss my folder enhancer and gridlock (my homescreen rocks IMHO), but I'll make do. Half of the retina themes right now don't even work on 5.1.1, so what if there's a new resolution out there? It'll take a year before Cydia replenishes. And I'll still have my iPhone 4 anyway, so I'll be able to follow things and play around a little.

    Hey... if this post is again registered as Guest, and my personal info doesn't display, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here?
    yeah, jailbreaking has always been a slippery slope for me. when i first started i would tweak the living crap out of my phone to the point of being unrecognizable to a normal user but realized i was the only one to enjoy it since i would not let anyone hold it any longer than a minute lol

    now, i am just more interested in making a great system even better (FullScreen for Safari, ScreenDimmer etc..) and gotta have my music tweaks (NowListening, Activator and Pandora Downloader)

    as far as your iMore account i have no idea what is going on. just recently i have noticed the Guests accounts so that is new to me. and FYI Mods/Admin this place has been a mess on a mobile browser. there already is a thread regarding this: http://forums.imore.com/imore-lounge...not-guest.html - hope you guys get it sorted soon!
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    07-12-2012 05:46 PM
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