1. Ricktye's Avatar
    Im lucky (or unlucky) enough to have an iPhone 4s and a Blackberry 9900 and have really been trying to get on the hype band wagon of liking the 4s, but have been failing miserably!

    First off, real life apps (such as Wakeful my alarm, for example) which work flawlessly on my 9900 just fail on the iPhone. Im not sure if this is the phones fault or the app developers fault but it is a problem. Im talking, as I said, about real life applications, I have a life and a job etc, so really dont care about Angry Birds and the like. I dont have time to play all day on a phone, I just want something that works.

    Connectivity is more of an issue with the iPhone, especially with WIFI. The BB seems to connect immediately and stay connected, the iPhone is constantly dropping WIFI. As I search the net, I see this is a problem for many and no concrete solutions seem to be available.

    The iPhone key pad is not bad for a touch screen I must admit. However there is no doubt that the physical keyboard of the 9900 is far superior for typing. After a while on the 9900, you can type without looking similar to a computer keyboard or typewriter. Again, I mean especially for longer emails etc at work. I send a few text messages but again, I personally dont have time for that. If I need to converse, I can call.

    It seems that every song, tone etc I would like to put on my iPhone has to be done thru iTunes, and not just any iTunes but the one that is synced to my particular phone? Hard to do when your away from home.

    Mentioning away from home, the iPhone is locked to one carrier and the 4s is unlockable. When I travel, I cant simply insert the local carriers SIM and carry on. I know you can buy roaming add ons but, why would I want the extra expense?

    Other than changing wallpapers, it seems there is not much customization I can do to the iPhone. At present there is no Jailbreak for the 4s, and if there was if I was to jailbreak it, I void my warranty! Seems like everything must go thru Apple by design, I cant even get a Kindle book without going thru Apple!

    If you have an iPhone and like it, good for you. My opinion though is that it has a long way to go to catch up with the modern BB as an honest to goodness workhorse. It is a great gaming device if youre bored and have nothing to do, but most of us arent, hopefully that bored!

    Im not looking to troll or be convinced that the iPhone is better and I doubt you can convince me anyway, Im just stating my opinion and why I cant be sucked into the iPhone hype that Apple and to a degree, the media has brought to the public. Perhaps a future OS upgrade can help, but I suppose that is once again up to Apple.
    05-24-2012 11:54 AM
  2. Garz's Avatar
    Everything is just opinion. I disagree with much of you say as I was a loyal BB user and know their product. But that is just my opinion as you spoke yours.

    Oh and JB doesn't void warranty and can easily be removed.
    05-24-2012 12:02 PM
  3. ghostface147's Avatar
    I agree with Garz. There is a reason why RIM is falling by the wayside. And falling quickly.
    05-24-2012 12:04 PM
  4. Ricktye's Avatar
    Again, IMO:

    If you have an iPhone and like it, good for you. My opinion though is that it has a long way to go to catch up with the modern BB as an honest to goodness workhorse. It is a great gaming device if youre bored and have nothing to do, but most of us arent, hopefully that bored!

    Im not looking to troll or be convinced that the iPhone is better and I doubt you can convince me anyway, Im just stating my opinion and why I cant be sucked into the iPhone hype that Apple and to a degree, the media has brought to the public. Perhaps a future OS upgrade can help, but I suppose that is once again up to Apple.



    I agree with Garz. There is a reason why RIM is falling by the wayside. And falling quickly.
    05-24-2012 12:29 PM
  5. Ahmed.T.Ghon's Avatar
    Though, I haven't used BB9900 yet, but I think you're right to some extents regarding some copyright issues and some backlashes that apple has. And they aren't trying to shake off those from their shoulder. As this is also their brand ego. Until now, it seems to me that they are fully determined to keep a good distance from the regular mobile market. How long they could stay away from billions of general and low budgeted mobile users, this is the question.

    New era began and looking for new iPhone release. How Tim Cook handles the Apple, this would decide it's future business.
    05-24-2012 12:51 PM
  6. ghostface147's Avatar
    Again, IMO:

    If you have an iPhone and like it, good for you. My opinion though is that it has a long way to go to catch up with the modern BB as an honest to goodness workhorse. It is a great gaming device if youre bored and have nothing to do, but most of us arent, hopefully that bored!

    Im not looking to troll or be convinced that the iPhone is better and I doubt you can convince me anyway, Im just stating my opinion and why I cant be sucked into the iPhone hype that Apple and to a degree, the media has brought to the public. Perhaps a future OS upgrade can help, but I suppose that is once again up to Apple.
    My iPhone is not a toy. I use Citrix, connect using RDP, I can use TN5250, do basic autoCAD functions (which is hard to use on a phone BTW) and also use it as a toy. So yeah, I think that's a production workhouse. Granted I'm probably a minority in using my phone this way, but don't go around implying that iOS is a toy. I don't care about themes, customized profiles and a hard keyboard or an annoying LED notification light.

    You come to this site defending your platform via opinion, and I do not believe you are doing it in a trolling way, but expect to challenged and viewed as one by some of us.
    05-24-2012 12:59 PM
  7. Ricktye's Avatar
    See, that's the thing........... I have both platforms and I am simply stating why I'm having a hard time getting on the iPhone band wagon; I personally don't find it as reliable or user "friendly" or as great a world travelling device as Blackberry. There is nothing wrong with an iPhone, my point rather is that it is not the be all, end all as many would try and have us believe because they've never had to leave home and travel, but they enjoy the games and the like. I keep hearing of all the apps for an iPhone, and there are lots without a doubt, but any real productive apps are also available for the other platforms, often working better.

    R...


    You come to this site defending your platform via opinion, and I do not believe you are doing it in a trolling way, but expect to challenged and viewed as one by some of us.
    05-24-2012 03:14 PM
  8. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    Again, IMO:

    If you have an iPhone and like it, good for you. My opinion though is that it has a long way to go to catch up with the modern BB as an honest to goodness workhorse. It is a great gaming device if youre bored and have nothing to do, but most of us arent, hopefully that bored!

    .
    I love when people call iPhones toys. I'm more productive on my iPhone than I am on my Storm2. I work as a medical coder and there are several ASA and coding apps that are available on iOS but not on my Storm2. While I'm not as connected as Ghostface is with email and stuff, the fact that I can quickly look up an ASA code on my iPhone has been a life saver for coding a procedure that I don't see often enough to remember the code.

    Yes, I also play games on my iPhone. I have the obligatory Angry Birds, Angry Birds Seasons and Words on my iPhone, but the vast majority of the day is spent using my ASA code app and ther other app I use for coding, not gaming.

    But like Garz said, it's all an opinon and this is mine.
    05-24-2012 03:18 PM
  9. Garz's Avatar
    Wait, forgot to mention this. I do work full time. Married. Have a life. But I love my Angry Birds and ect. And as Steve Jobs use to say, "it just works."
    05-24-2012 04:04 PM
  10. Rockdog97's Avatar
    ...not to mention you can JB the 4S (where has the OP been?)...and customize it in more ways than you could with a BB (in my opinion). I used to design themes for BBs so I know firsthand how you have to download an entire THEME just to get changes. w/ the 4s you can customize and tweek just about anything from icons, to status bars, lockscreens, etc etc etc. Way more customize options than you could ever want (or need some would say).

    my 4S connects and stays connected to WiFi no problem. In fact, I find that it tries to connect to WiFi networks when I'm out and about (which sometimes gets annoying) but it simply WORKS.
    05-24-2012 04:19 PM
  11. jonathon6017#CB's Avatar
    I am looking into getting an iPhone coming from Blackberry so I was excited to read this thread but by the time I got to the end of it, I knew he would be labeled as a troll and I would get very little knowledge. Oh well...since I do not exactly what search words to put in, can someone give me a few threads like this but maybe a little less trollish and not so much "My platform is better" attitude?
    05-24-2012 04:33 PM
  12. Ricktye's Avatar
    There' an untethered JB for the 4s on 5.1.1??? I must be living under a rock! Please post the link ASAP so the rest of us can try it! Thanks.

    R...


    ...not to mention you can JB the 4S (where has the OP been?)...and customize it in more ways than you could with a BB (in my opinion). I used to design themes for BBs so I know firsthand how you have to download an entire THEME just to get changes. w/ the 4s you can customize and tweek just about anything from icons, to status bars, lockscreens, etc etc etc. Way more customize options than you could ever want (or need some would say).

    my 4S connects and stays connected to WiFi no problem. In fact, I find that it tries to connect to WiFi networks when I'm out and about (which sometimes gets annoying) but it simply WORKS.
    05-24-2012 04:39 PM
  13. jonathon6017#CB's Avatar
    There' an untethered JB for the 4s on 5.1.1??? I must be living under a rock! Please post the link ASAP so the rest of us can try it! Thanks.

    R...
    Let me google that for you
    05-24-2012 04:41 PM
  14. Garz's Avatar
    There' an untethered JB for the 4s on 5.1.1??? I must be living under a rock! Please post the link ASAP so the rest of us can try it! Thanks.

    R...
    5.1.1 JB is suppose to be available to the mass tomorrow. Current JB only does 5.0.1.
    05-24-2012 04:41 PM
  15. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    5.1.1 JB is supposed to be available to the mass tomorrow. Current JB only does 5.0.1.
    It'll be released 7:30AM central time and you can download it here.
    05-24-2012 04:45 PM
  16. Ricktye's Avatar
    Thanks, Garz. I knew that and was just poking fun at some of the smarta**es out there. I probably shouldn't have done that because I didn't want this thread to get into a contest, but that's what it seems to have become as usual! So far no one has given any solid advice, but it's become another "my iPhone is better, because......... " thread and that wasn't/isn't my intent. I need convincing, because as I stated originally, I have the luxury of both of the best phones on the market IMO. So far none of the replies have done that......

    R...

    5.1.1 JB is suppose to be available to the mass tomorrow. Current JB only does 5.0.1.
    05-24-2012 05:00 PM
  17. Ricktye's Avatar
    Thanks, Laura. Hope you're right.

    R...

    It'll be released 7:30AM central time and you can download it here.
    05-24-2012 05:02 PM
  18. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    Thanks, Laura. Hope you're right.

    R...
    Of course I'm right. I'm female.

    I've downloaded Absinthe and am about to open iTunes to do a backup, then open Tiny Umbrella to save SHSH blobs then I'm about to JB.
    05-25-2012 09:24 AM
  19. Rockdog97's Avatar
    Thanks, Garz. I knew that and was just poking fun at some of the smarta**es out there. I probably shouldn't have done that because I didn't want this thread to get into a contest, but that's what it seems to have become as usual! So far no one has given any solid advice, but it's become another "my iPhone is better, because......... " thread and that wasn't/isn't my intent. I need convincing, because as I stated originally, I have the luxury of both of the best phones on the market IMO. So far none of the replies have done that......

    R...
    You noted that the iPhone isn't customizable and I pointed out that if you JB your phone, the possibilities are endless with regards to customizing your phone. So to say you knew that the 4s was able to be JB'd, I relied that you could.

    what solid advise are you looking for? Like I said, I was a rapid BB user for years- developed and sold lots and lots of themes for different BBs.. but to get anything custom on a BB, you are stuck downloading and entire theme and if you dont like certain things about the theme, well you're stuck! unless you design your own theme, then you can change whatever you want- but again, it's all rolled into one theme. With a JB'd iPhone, you literally have no limits on how you can customize your phone. Try that on any BB...

    My advise would be to JB your iphone, do some tweeks, customizations, etc and then compare the two.
    05-25-2012 12:58 PM
  20. owlyn's Avatar
    Sounds like your mind is made up so I don't know why you are asking, but I was a BB user for about 5 years. I made the switch earlier this year and haven't looked back. I find typing on the iPhone to be faster than with the physical keyboard on the Bold. Everything else just works flawlessly and quickly. You almost never have to reboot the phone, as compared to the daily boots on the BB. I would recommend the iPhone 4s to anyone.

    RIM is dying anyway- you may as well make the change.
    05-25-2012 06:58 PM
  21. kjvella's Avatar
    Im lucky (or unlucky) enough to have an iPhone 4s and a Blackberry 9900 and have really been trying to get on the hype band wagon of liking the 4s, but have been failing miserably!

    First off, real life apps (such as Wakeful my alarm, for example) which work flawlessly on my 9900 just fail on the iPhone. Im not sure if this is the phones fault or the app developers fault but it is a problem. Im talking, as I said, about real life applications, I have a life and a job etc, so really dont care about Angry Birds and the like. I dont have time to play all day on a phone, I just want something that works.

    Connectivity is more of an issue with the iPhone, especially with WIFI. The BB seems to connect immediately and stay connected, the iPhone is constantly dropping WIFI. As I search the net, I see this is a problem for many and no concrete solutions seem to be available.

    The iPhone key pad is not bad for a touch screen I must admit. However there is no doubt that the physical keyboard of the 9900 is far superior for typing. After a while on the 9900, you can type without looking similar to a computer keyboard or typewriter. Again, I mean especially for longer emails etc at work. I send a few text messages but again, I personally dont have time for that. If I need to converse, I can call.

    It seems that every song, tone etc I would like to put on my iPhone has to be done thru iTunes, and not just any iTunes but the one that is synced to my particular phone? Hard to do when your away from home.

    Mentioning away from home, the iPhone is locked to one carrier and the 4s is unlockable. When I travel, I cant simply insert the local carriers SIM and carry on. I know you can buy roaming add ons but, why would I want the extra expense?

    Other than changing wallpapers, it seems there is not much customization I can do to the iPhone. At present there is no Jailbreak for the 4s, and if there was if I was to jailbreak it, I void my warranty! Seems like everything must go thru Apple by design, I cant even get a Kindle book without going thru Apple!

    If you have an iPhone and like it, good for you. My opinion though is that it has a long way to go to catch up with the modern BB as an honest to goodness workhorse. It is a great gaming device if youre bored and have nothing to do, but most of us arent, hopefully that bored!

    Im not looking to troll or be convinced that the iPhone is better and I doubt you can convince me anyway, Im just stating my opinion and why I cant be sucked into the iPhone hype that Apple and to a degree, the media has brought to the public. Perhaps a future OS upgrade can help, but I suppose that is once again up to Apple.
    Before I purchased the iPhone4S, I owned a Blackberry Curve. I liked it a lot, but the keyboard was too small for my hands. I wanted to purchase the Blackberry Bold Touch 9930 due to the fact that it has a touch screen and a larger keyboard. My carrier, however, wouldn't go down in price for the unit from $249.99. Blackberry's have a better notification feature. I do miss the little red led at times. iPhone4S has better music choices since I can play everything in my iTunes library without having to worry about DMR restrictions. Siri and iCloud are two other advantages of iPhone4S.
    I can understand your points and agree.
    05-26-2012 11:20 AM
  22. PhoneAddict's Avatar
    I came off of a Bold to my iPhone (after a brief period with a Motorola Droid) after two years with a BB Storm and honestly do not see the validity to the comments that iOS is not for business. I only use my device for phone, text and e-mail and find the iOS superior to BB for business needs. The ability for adding real productivity applications to the iPhone has helped me be more productive. The limited apps for BB just make it less productive, sorry just MO.

    BTW - I would not use the BB tag line of other devices and OS as "Toys". I understand from the group at Crackberry that the new BB OS 10 is getting a real following for its gaming capabilities, which IMO I consider to make the device more of a toy.

    Great thing is that we have 4 major OS for smartphones (iOS, Android, BB and Microsoft) and whichever works for your needs is the best out there, regardless of what anyone else thinks.
    05-27-2012 08:12 AM
  23. Snipperdo17's Avatar
    I see what the OP is saying and it is also the same stuff for me that is keeping me from leaving BB full time. Just the email and text experience is just so much faster and I get so much more stuff done in a shorter amount of time. The keyboard helps out a ton since you don't have to look when you type. There is just something about them! I do still like the iPhone though. It's nice to be able to go back and forth that's for sure.
    05-27-2012 12:48 PM
  24. Ricktye's Avatar
    Thank you. Finally someone who can understand instead of telling me how great their iPhone is. If I only had one or the other, I'm sure I'd say the same thing.......

    I see what the OP is saying and it is also the same stuff for me that is keeping me from leaving BB full time. Just the email and text experience is just so much faster and I get so much more stuff done in a shorter amount of time. The keyboard helps out a ton since you don't have to look when you type. There is just something about them! I do still like the iPhone though. It's nice to be able to go back and forth that's for sure.
    Snipperdo17 likes this.
    05-27-2012 03:16 PM
  25. itechyou's Avatar
    I have been on both sides of this before and for me the iPhone has suited my needs. The main thing, in my eyes, BB has over the iPhone is bbm and even that was lagging horribly last time I used a berry. Plus having the huge media push for OS7 last years for a few months then announcing that none of the os7devices or any older ones would be able to support the forthcoming OS kind of sealed the deal for me with RIM. The bb does have its uses, as does the iPhone. I have tested email speeds on both and guess what? Within seconds on either device. I can type on the touchscreen without looking, although I conceded that the Bold series has a phenomenal keyboard, the last two I tried both had the annoying sticky feeling 'clackiness'. To each their own I say. And when someone asks my opinion on a device for their personal or business use, I have the experience with BB, iOS, Android to help them in their selection in a non-biased way. This is an iOS forum so of course when you post about your thoughts on one devices better aspects than the iPhone it becomes a willy wagging contest. I see the OP view though. There are apps for everything I COULD NEED on iOS, can't say that truly for BB though
    05-27-2012 04:02 PM
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