1. ame's Avatar
    Well I just left Sprint in Feb, and I have zero intention of going back. I had no issues til I had my 4 stolen while I was on vacation and bought a replacement on my friend's line to save $400 on vacation, then sent her the phone.

    We have asked repeatedly to try to port this number to a new account. Just as a test. But they keep wasting time.
    12-14-2011 10:11 AM
  2. derk's Avatar
    That could be a possibility. But not having HSPA+ doubt it. Though aren't the 8-10mb downloads I'm seeing at work more HSPA+ speeds? Though I only see those off of one tower i'm aware of.

    Either way my real world exepiance is that the 4 antenna is better in low signal areas than the 4S. I'd like to think maybe HSPA+ will fix that for the 4S but by the time HSPA+ is implemented a new iphone will be out anyway.
    I wonder how my wife on her 3GS in the same area I was in didn't get a signal but I did on my 4S. Previously, on my iphone 4, in the same area, I had no signal either.
    12-15-2011 02:09 PM
  3. derk's Avatar
    Well I just left Sprint in Feb, and I have zero intention of going back. I had no issues til I had my 4 stolen while I was on vacation and bought a replacement on my friend's line to save $400 on vacation, then sent her the phone.

    We have asked repeatedly to try to port this number to a new account. Just as a test. But they keep wasting time.
    I have only own an iphone (3G) since December 2008. I remember reading threads of new ATT customers who were porting their numbers (having massive problems) from another carrier when the original Iphone came out. Some ATT software issue anomaly must have cropped up with a port (from Sprint), new replacement iphone after the old one was stolen and then a newly activated 4S.
    12-15-2011 02:13 PM
  4. ame's Avatar
    My iPhone 4 was on ATT already, my port happened way back in Feb and was smooth as butta. So...that's still a possibility. My husband wants to set up a new account and port my number to that, but we're gonna try something with SIM's tonight. I just spent a half hour on the phone with the initial trace tech, a trace engineer, a switch engineer, an RF engineer, a field engineer, and someone else I forgot the title of, it's either hardware (sim or phone) or the line itself. Apple has said LINE from the start, as has my husband who works with/for ATT. If the SIM thing tonight doesn't correct it, then we're going with Apple's plan.

    My iPhone4 was fine til the theft. So was the replacement actually. It's all be related to what I did with the 4 I sent to my friend, and the 4s phones. My other two lines are fine, so I don't really want to screw with accounts.
    12-15-2011 04:31 PM
  5. krs7272#AC's Avatar
    Im betting this has something to do with all these emei's that could be registering with the network somehow being tied to your account. Kinda like how people are still getting iMessage messages after buying someone's phone. I think your right with porting to a new accout.


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    12-15-2011 07:15 PM
  6. ame's Avatar
    Well, after a ridiculous lost of temper and sobbing for ten minutes, Im now just waiting for my Apple girl to call me back. I have a new SIM, set up completely new, and not only has the same problem still been occurring, it's actually worse now.
    12-15-2011 08:31 PM
  7. derk's Avatar
    Well, after a ridiculous lost of temper and sobbing for ten minutes, Im now just waiting for my Apple girl to call me back. I have a new SIM, set up completely new, and not only has the same problem still been occurring, it's actually worse now.
    What do you mean by worse?


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    12-15-2011 08:56 PM
  8. krs7272#AC's Avatar
    I think it's time for a new phone, sim, and account as your brand new RO rule out any account serial whatever numbers. Geez sucks no one just wants to try.


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    12-15-2011 09:55 PM
  9. ame's Avatar
    APPLE wants to try. lol. Apple's been wanting to try for a month. ATT has been the lone holdout.

    Worse meaning I had 10 fail and 3 success. And by fail I mean I have no idea if it rang on the other end.

    Tonight my husband got more involved. We hadn't tried swapping sims for a while, a month actually, because we did that before we started running all the tests a month ago and it didn't give make a difference. When we did it tonight--briefly--I had him making the calls while I was in the other room, then we swapped. When my SIM was in his phone, flawless. Mind you we only made a call each on that phone. Then we put his back in mine, and both were failures. Meaning it rang at the house. We heard whoever was using my phone to make the call (meaning me hearing him when he called the house, and him hearing me when I called the house) but the person on the iPhone heard themselves and only themselves as if they were on a speakerphone alone.

    His "professional" opinion is that either this phone is corrupt now because of all this mess, my account is the issue as we've thought all along OR there's actually a higher level talkpath problem that the engineers so far have not been able to get to. When he was still with BigRed, there were three very specific (and EXTREMELY well paid) guys that handled this exclusively. He assumes the same is the case at ATT though he doesn't regularly work with them at ATT now like he did at big red.

    Tomorrow I am going to compile my husband, the Apple Engineer, the ATT engineer I've been most in contact with, and myself and we're going to figure out what to do next. I think what I want to try first is to have the phone replaced on a new account, and if that works fine, then port the current number to that, and if that continues to work, then we know it's not my number. Then we get this very expensive talkpath individual on the horn and say "ok now it's on you fix it. fix it. fixitfixitfixit fixit." Just like that. Because that would not be annoying. lol

    BUT my husband thinks it's talkpath, and is willing to go with an entire hardware replacement as a start.
    Last edited by ame; 12-15-2011 at 10:50 PM.
    12-15-2011 10:45 PM
  10. Peligro911's Avatar
    I would have left AT&T and ported the number by now .. I don't see why they don't just set you fresh and port the number unless that don't fix it but if it does then they can take there time figuring out there prob not at your expense .. I just hope your not paying a dime for service since you can't really use your phone


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    12-16-2011 12:30 AM
  11. ame's Avatar
    Port it to where? Sprint is not an option, and frankly neither is Verizon. That leaves ATT.

    Oh Im paying. And they'll be reimbursing me.

    They can't really give us a real reason why they wouldn't just start with account change and stuff from the get go, the only reason we get is that the other two lines work fine. So that would mean line, right? I mean, they've skipped past basic trouble-shooting.
    12-16-2011 09:04 AM
  12. GeFo.GT's Avatar
    So far so good. Have you JB your phone? That might bring you some problem.
    12-16-2011 09:07 AM
  13. ame's Avatar
    Nope. I had no plans to either.
    12-16-2011 10:08 AM
  14. jsigler's Avatar
    I have Sprint and notice a big uptick in calls that go no where compared to my last phone (a BB9650). The iPhone is also having trouble with the calls coming in. One ring, or maybe just a voice mail indicator showing up but never a call.
    This isn't anywhere near every call, just often enough to have noticed it happens, not enough for me to take the 2-4 days out of my life to sift through the countless CSR's with Sprint till I find one who can fix both my original problem and all the problems everyone else created as they tried to fix the first.
    What is annoying me right now is the voice mails come long after the call, often the next day.
    12-16-2011 11:33 AM
  15. ame's Avatar
    I had that with Sprint a LOT. It didn't matter what phone I had.
    12-16-2011 11:53 AM
  16. derk's Avatar
    So far so good. Have you JB your phone? That might bring you some problem.
    GeFo.GT- This is an iPhone 4S forum and there is no jailbreak out yet.


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    12-16-2011 12:08 PM
  17. Peligro911's Avatar
    Port it to where? Sprint is not an option, and frankly neither is Verizon. That leaves ATT.

    Oh Im paying. And they'll be reimbursing me.

    They can't really give us a real reason why they wouldn't just start with account change and stuff from the get go, the only reason we get is that the other two lines work fine. So that would mean line, right? I mean, they've skipped past basic trouble-shooting.
    Why not Verizon ? Just curious


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    12-16-2011 04:56 PM
  18. krs7272#AC's Avatar
    Because Verizon doesn't work everywhere. Cost more also are possibly 2 reasons


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    12-16-2011 07:42 PM
  19. ame's Avatar
    Cost is one, it's CDMA and I don't really want to go back to CDMA, and I don't want to buy all new phones for all three lines.
    12-16-2011 09:52 PM
  20. ame's Avatar
    I just got home with a new phone, new number, new sim, new account, and so far so good. We are going to try to port the number over, but since I was waiting on Apple to call me back,I decided to put last night's new SIM on my regular number inside this phone. I have completed 12 calls with 100% success rate. So when I spoke with Apple, we decided to try this for the weekend, I will keep track of all fails and successes and report back to both parties Monday or Tuesday. Sometimes it takes a few hours or days to freak. If at any time the failures start up, I will get them involved, and we will attempt to port my number to the new account. If it never does, we shut off the new account and we call it done.
    12-16-2011 10:49 PM
  21. Hoya94's Avatar
    On Sprint and I'm not having any connection problems! Excellent performance!
    12-16-2011 11:01 PM
  22. Peligro911's Avatar
    Cost is one, it's CDMA and I don't really want to go back to CDMA, and I don't want to buy all new phones for all three lines.
    Oh makes since I've just never have issues with them been with them since they were air touch makes since about buying all new phones thou


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    12-16-2011 11:02 PM
  23. ame's Avatar
    ive had them, I was never just wowwed. My husband worked for big red for 12 or 13 years, back to the MCI/Worldcom days even. I am not "thrilled" to be with att but til the last two months had zero issue. The theft of my 4 and the replacement with a 4s has been a pain though for two months.
    12-17-2011 12:01 AM
  24. derk's Avatar
    I just got home with a new phone, new number, new sim, new account, and so far so good. We are going to try to port the number over, but since I was waiting on Apple to call me back,I decided to put last night's new SIM on my regular number inside this phone. I have completed 12 calls with 100% success rate. So when I spoke with Apple, we decided to try this for the weekend, I will keep track of all fails and successes and report back to both parties Monday or Tuesday. Sometimes it takes a few hours or days to freak. If at any time the failures start up, I will get them involved, and we will attempt to port my number to the new account. If it never does, we shut off the new account and we call it done.
    First off, I hope this is fixed for you finally.

    I understand why a new phone number, new sim, new account and new phone would work. What I don't understand is how new sim from old phone number (from previous night) works in new iphone now. Didn't you try using your new sim from old number on your husband's iphone and it worked initially then stopped working?

    Is the "solution" a new iphone, which was first activated on a new account with a new phone number and then replaced with a new sim card (from old number that was re-provisoned) afterwards?




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    12-17-2011 08:23 AM
  25. krs7272#AC's Avatar
    Glad to hear. Good luck hopefully this works. My issues persisted of the 4S having no service I'm both places last night while my brothers 4 had 1-2 bars so unfortunately looks like me and Att are done


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    12-17-2011 10:53 AM
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