1. takeshi's Avatar
    To people who have owned both phones which is the better phone and more popular in your opinion?
    As with any "better" question on any topic, it depends on your preferences and criteria. Which one I think is better doesn't matter unless yours happen to exactly line up with mine. There are pros and cons on both sides on the fence despite what fanboys in either camp will tell you. What are you specifically looking for? What does and does not matter to you?
    10-26-2011 09:19 PM
  2. paul-c's Avatar
    Who makes the best android device out of those companies you listed?
    Motorola has the best hardware on the Android side, in my opinion.
    10-26-2011 09:33 PM
  3. nosepicker's Avatar
    I hated how andorid would gradually get slower and unresponsive over time. Never had that with my iphone
    10-27-2011 01:28 AM
  4. nyc_rock's Avatar
    This question can really only be answer by the user. Some thoughts though:

    1) UI-Two total different approaches. Android lets you customize pretty much anything you want, while Apple continues to keep you in the box. Now, is the end result really that different? At the end of the day, I dont think so. You have to do more poking around in IOS to get to information or settings, but the functionality is pretty much the same. The biggest difference is connection to information. Android will update all day in the background, meaning that the widgets give you real time info. On IOS, you have to go into the app, and let it update before you presented with the information you are looking for. This plays a major part in..................
    2) Battery life-IOS hands down has better battery life than Android. IOS, when not being used does pretty much nothing other than pulling emails and Text messages. No updating of stocks, weather, news or anything else is happening unless you go into the app and open it up. Android will automatically bring down info on a schedule that you determine. It can be once an hour, once every for hours and so on.
    3) Camera's-For Android it is hit or miss. Motorola's camera's are not that great, while the Samsung Galaxy S2 has a camera equal to or better than the Iphone 4S.
    4) Web Browsing-Android beats apple. Its not because of flash, which IMO is not that big of a deal. Its in text reflow when you double tap to zoom. The safari browser formats the pages for a one stage zoom. the Android browser will reflow the text when you double tap so that the text is much larger and easier to read. On some web sites, I have to turn my 4S into landscape to make the text big enough to read which is annoying. In terms of speed, both browsers are fast enough.
    5) Apps-There are virtually no apps not availble in the App Store that are available in the Android Market. The Android market has almost all of the big name apps that the App store has with the exception of games. Tiny Wings and Infinity Blade are two that jump to my mind. Apps that are on both Android and IOS are very similar though. Both have good UI's and are stable.
    6) Stability-I would say that both are pretty much on par. I have used the GS2 recently and it was flawless. Never had any issues with the phone not working. IOS is also rock solid. I dont see the stability issue being a major selling point anymore. The latest Gingerbread builds are great and ICS is another step up.
    7) Fragmentation-Absolutely an issue on Android. Many apps that are released only work on certian devices. OS updates are painfully slow. I believe Samsung has about 7 differnt models running on 50 different carriers. Each carrier has a slightly "tweaked" version of the touchwiz interface. Thats alot of differnent devices that have to be updated which explains why it can take 6 months, or more, to get an update. IOS, is obviously the opposite. An update comes out and you get it right away. Buying apps is also becoming a more frustrating experience on Android. Android has the Market, the Amazon App store as well as several app producers who only sell on thier own web sites. This makes finding an app frustrating. The app store is your ones stop shop. No fuss, no muss.
    8) Sycing-Itunes remains the gold standard for ease of syncing your music and movies. Each Android OEM has their own version of syncing software and quite frankly, they all suck.

    At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference. For me, battery life is pretty much the most important factor. I have yet to find an Android phone that comes close to matching IOS. My GS2 would discharge at a rate of 6-7% an hour.(14-16 hours until dead). And that was with light usage. My Iphone, with the same usage patterns discharges around 4-5% an hour (20-25 hours until dead). Thats a huge difference.

    My advice, as always it try them both out and see which ones works best for you. Its not longer a function of which is better, its which is better for that particular person.
    Last edited by nyc_rock; 10-27-2011 at 07:20 AM.
    10-27-2011 07:14 AM
  5. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    nothing will beat or top apple and the iphone they are the king!
    You've echoed this through out this thread (and others)...and it begs the question, why even start this post in the first place? Were you attempting to bait some people into discussing the android hand sets in a positive light so that you could retort with the kind of gem of a response like we see quoted above?
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    10-27-2011 07:18 AM
  6. roll-tide's Avatar
    You've echoed this through out this thread (and others)...and it begs the question, why even start this post in the first place? Were you attempting to bait some people into discussing the android hand sets in a positive light so that you could retort with the kind of gem of a response like we see quoted above?
    I asked generally the same question a while back with no answer from the OP....doesn't make much sense does it?
    10-27-2011 09:43 AM
  7. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I asked generally the same question a while back with no answer from the OP....doesn't make much sense does it?
    It doesn't...outside the idea that his post count is increasing quickly with this kind of non-sense.
    10-27-2011 10:02 AM
  8. mysimba97's Avatar
    I am transitioning from an original Motorola Droid to the iPhone 4S, but I currently have an iPod Touch.

    I like the following in Android OS -
    • Predictive text after a few letters
    • Notifications
    • SD card for music, apps, etc.


    I like the following in iPhone OS -
    • Cleaner OS
    • OS transitions from apps is MUCH quicker
    • Apps are FAR less buggy
    • Combined mail box
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    10-28-2011 10:30 AM
  9. peterthomas's Avatar
    In my opinion as all of us know that the iPhone is against the jail breaking, and they are even taking stands against those going for jail breaking stuff!
    And android industry on the other hand is a free and open source type of industry, where there is no one company rule, everyone can simply create or modify any type of software they want!
    Thats why since I ve been with both the devices my personal views are that if one has to choose, he/she should go for the Android.
    On the other hand if you have no interest in the development and too many application customization etc, the you should simply go for the iphone as that has better user experience and a nice style and an easy to use system.
    10-29-2011 06:04 AM
  10. Eileen89's Avatar
    I've had a least 4 Android devices and ended up going back to my iPhones after a very short period of time. It's not that I thought my iphone was better, but it fits my needs more.
    10-29-2011 07:26 AM
  11. wats60's Avatar
    I have owned BB, Nexus S, and I like the iPhone 4S the best of all!


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    10-29-2011 09:56 AM
  12. DrewBear's Avatar
    And android industry on the other hand is a free and open source type of industry, where there is no one company rule, everyone can simply create or modify any type of software they want!
    This is good for manufacturers and cell carriers who want to load their own bloatware on top of the stock Android OS. It is good for developers who want to create malicious or data mining apps. It is also good for honest developers who otherwise prefer not to go through an approval process.

    But how is this good for the majority of consumers? What percentage of Android users root their phones? What percentage of that small group (aside from developers) actually write software for their phones? Has this "open" platform resulted in apps of greater quantity and quality?

    I think Android is great. It provides choice for consumers: different screen sizes, form factors, price points, etc. But there are drawbacks to an "open" platform that people should be aware of, especially non-techie types.
    10-30-2011 01:21 AM
  13. DannyMichel's Avatar
    My opinion is that iOS is definitely more popular, but not necessarily better. Apples and oranges. Hardware on the other hand is another story. Plenty of phones better than the iPhone overall in that area


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    10-30-2011 02:06 AM
  14. DrewBear's Avatar
    My opinion is that iOS is definitely more popular, but not necessarily better. Apples and oranges. Hardware on the other hand is another story. Plenty of phones better than the iPhone overall in that area
    Technically more Android devices get activated each month. I guess it depends on how you define "popular". Likewise with the word "better" in terms of hardware. Is a 4.65" PenTile Super AMOLED display "better" than a 3.5" Retina display? Is the Galaxy Nexus' 1.2 GHz dual-core processor "better" than the iPhone 4Ses unspecificied clock speed A5? How do the respective graphics processors work to improve performance? Is a thin, light, mostly plastic phone "better" than a slightly thicker, heavier phone made of stainless steel and glass?

    Even with hardware specs there are many subjective judgments to be made. Consumers make those judgements individually with their money. My guess is the iPhone family has "scored" more money than all the Android devices put together. The iPhone 4S will continue that pattern despite claims of all these "better" Android phones. I don't know how else you would judge what hardware specs are "better" than another.

    Last, but not least, let's remember that hardware is meaningless without software and vice versa. It's the integration of the two that matters most in determining the total user experience. The Motorola Xoom is arguably good hardware matched with not-yet-ready-for-primetime Honeycomb. WebOS was arguably good software embedded in sub-par TouchPad hardware.

    Then you have something like the Droid Bionic: supposedly great hardware with great software. Yet people aren't lining up for this phone. Why? Will the Droid Razr be better with its single core processor? Or are people waiting for the Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.0 and its 5 MP camera? Maybe people will line up for one of those phones, right?

    So are there really "Plenty of phones better than the iPhone"? Who is the judge of that? We, the consumer, are. We get as many votes as we can afford to pay for. No one can tell you how to vote. That's up to you. What is "better" for you may not be "better" for someone else. But if you count up the money votes, the iPhone 4S is going to win this current round by a landslide.
    10-30-2011 03:06 AM
  15. Infiniti7's Avatar
    there is no phone better than the iphone period. has the best software, hardware, and apps. nothing compares enought said. iphone dominates the phone world
    10-30-2011 03:16 AM
  16. DannyMichel's Avatar
    there is no phone better than the iphone period. has the best software, hardware, and apps. nothing compares enought said. iphone dominates the phone world
    Haha, you definitely sound like you know exactly what you're talking about and you're not an ignorant fan-boy at all


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    10-30-2011 03:28 AM
  17. Eileen89's Avatar
    there is no phone better than the iphone period. has the best software, hardware, and apps. nothing compares enought said. iphone dominates the phone world
    Sorry, but Q3 numbers say otherwise. Samsung takes the lead from Apple. After Q4 sales come in from the iPhone 4S Apple may take it back, however, only time will tell. Market shifts: Samsung beats iPhone in sales, ZTE passes Apple in global cell phone volume | 9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence
    10-30-2011 08:28 AM
  18. Timhewitt's Avatar
    Samsung doesn't publish sales figures, they publish shipments. Apple publishes sales figures, not shipments. We don't know if there are warehouses full of Samsung phones or not.... But we do know that iPhones are back ordered in nearly all models. You can decide which numbers are more meaningful.
    10-30-2011 10:31 AM
  19. Eileen89's Avatar
    Samsung doesn't publish sales figures, they publish shipments. Apple publishes sales figures, not shipments. We don't know if there are warehouses full of Samsung phones or not.... But we do know that iPhones are back ordered in nearly all models. You can decide which numbers are more meaningful.
    Samsungs Galaxy S2 was also on backorder status for AT&T at least. The 4S wasn't out when the totals were done for Q3 so backordered units are irrelevant. I would expect Q4 results for Apple to be much higher, however, there are other high end Samsung devices that are due out soon as well, which is why I said time will tell.
    Last edited by Irish Rose; 10-30-2011 at 11:44 AM.
    10-30-2011 11:39 AM
  20. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    there is no phone better than the iphone period. has the best software, hardware, and apps. nothing compares enought said. iphone dominates the phone world
    Do you have an Apple tattoo?
    10-30-2011 12:14 PM
  21. DannyMichel's Avatar
    Do you have an Apple tattoo?
    That was actually funny


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    10-30-2011 12:37 PM
  22. DrewBear's Avatar
    Samsung doesn't publish sales figures, they publish shipments. Apple publishes sales figures, not shipments. We don't know if there are warehouses full of Samsung phones or not.... But we do know that iPhones are back ordered in nearly all models. You can decide which numbers are more meaningful.
    It's interesting that Samsung (and many other phone makers) stopped reporting both unit sales numbers of smartphones and their ASP (average selling price). With the exception of Apple's, all these other "shipped" numbers being thrown around are conjured up by analytical firms that conduct mysterious surveys.

    All these companies are in business to make a profit. Samsung reported ~$2.2 billion USD profits from their telecommunications sector, which includes many other products aside from smartphones. No doubt smartphones account for the largest chunk of that profit, so let's be very generous and say $1.5B is from smartphones.

    Apple reported $6.6B of total profits last quarter. The iPhone represents ~60% of those profits, which comes out to ~$4B profit from iPhones. Compare that to Samsung's ~$1.5B. Do you really think Samsung believes they "beat" Apple in the smartphone biz?

    So let's just drop all these claims of companies "beating" Apple's iPhone. Any of the smartphone manufacturers will gladly trade places with Apple in terms of unit market-share vs profit-share.
    10-30-2011 12:52 PM
  23. Infiniti7's Avatar
    look at the sales buddy. apple dominates any single droid phone out there. there are so many droids but the iphone will outsell any single droid there is
    10-30-2011 01:44 PM
  24. 736dave's Avatar
    Do you have an Apple tattoo?
    Ooooh. Good idea. Now I am REALLY torn. Tatt of my daughters names; tatt of my regiment; or tatt of apple?

    -d
    Ugh!
    10-30-2011 01:54 PM
  25. vangordernick's Avatar
    You should have just named your daughter Apple and you wouldn't be in the predicament.
    10-30-2011 02:43 PM
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