1. DANNCAS's Avatar
    lets not beat a dead horse.
    will respond to the YOUNG im sure person that comment on that they don't care what goes on outside the USA. You should the worlds not that small and not everything revolves around the good old USA
    10-23-2011 08:31 AM
  2. anon62607's Avatar
    MAN, I'm so jealous of at&t customers


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    I asked a friend of mine in Seattle with an AT&T 4S to run speedtest and got more like 0.8 Mbps down.
    10-23-2011 08:35 AM
  3. kch50428's Avatar
    lets not beat a dead horse.
    will respond to the YOUNG im sure person that comment on that they don't care what goes on outside the USA. You should the worlds not that small and not everything revolves around the good old USA
    You WAY too much. WAY, WAY too much.
    10-23-2011 10:09 AM
  4. 0pusX's Avatar
    lets not beat a dead horse.
    will respond to the YOUNG im sure person that comment on that they don't care what goes on outside the USA. You should the worlds not that small and not everything revolves around the good old USA
    37 years YOUNG, thank you.

    And I DO care about world issues, however I prefer to care about world issues that are important like politics, economy and health issues....... the speed at which I can download a mp3, to me. is irrelevant what other countries can offer when I live HERE.
    10-23-2011 02:53 PM
  5. robes1's Avatar
    ITU redefined their requirements to be capable of 4G. Lowering them quite a bit. HSPA+, LTE, and WiMAX meet the lowered standards.
    Thank you! I thought so!
    10-23-2011 04:53 PM
  6. iPhoneXGS's Avatar
    I asked a friend of mine in Seattle with an AT&T 4S to run speedtest and got more like 0.8 Mbps down.
    This I screenshot of my speedtest last night.
    10-23-2011 04:58 PM
  7. robes1's Avatar
    Check it out!

    In telecommunications, 4G is the fourth generation of cellular wireless standards. It is a successor to the 3G and 2G families of standards. In 2009, the ITU-R organization specified the IMT-Advanced (International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced) requirements for 4G standards, setting peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100*Mbit/s for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1*Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users).[1]

    On December 6, 2010, ITU recognized that current versions of LTE, WiMax and other evolved 3G technologies that do not fulfill "IMT-Advanced" requirements could nevertheless be considered "4G".
    10-23-2011 05:01 PM
  8. robes1's Avatar
    If I had enough money I think that I could get them to add Edge to the list of 4G technologies! LOL!
    10-23-2011 05:02 PM
  9. anon62607's Avatar
    Check it out!

    In telecommunications, 4G is the fourth generation of cellular wireless standards. It is a successor to the 3G and 2G families of standards. In 2009, the ITU-R organization specified the IMT-Advanced (International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced) requirements for 4G standards, setting peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100*Mbit/s for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1*Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users).[1]

    On December 6, 2010, ITU recognized that current versions of LTE, WiMax and other evolved 3G technologies that do not fulfill "IMT-Advanced" requirements could nevertheless be considered "4G".
    Because IMT-Advanced does not define 4G. IMT-Advanced is just one set of technical standards that people associate the undefined term "4G" with. There isn't now, and never was, any kind of edict stating that IMT-Advanced = 4G.

    Note also that those "peak requirements" are only one tiny aspect of the technical requirements. ANYONE can get 1 Gbit/sec if they're given enough transmission power and spectrum (and in fact LTE-Advanced mostly gets to Gigabit performance from using 8x8 MIMO and multiple carriers. Performance near cell edge is improved and a higher order modulation is used (128QAM) but in general LTE and LTE Advanced aren't going to act all that much different to a carrier deploying in 10 MHz.
    10-24-2011 05:39 AM
  10. HeyGreggie's Avatar
    I would think they'd sneak the 4g capabilities into this phone since it's a world phone, even though the two have nothing to do with each other
    10-24-2011 09:09 AM
  11. DannyMichel's Avatar
    This I screenshot of my speedtest last night.
    Speed tests like that break my heart. I feel like I'm on a fake iPhone on Verizon


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    10-24-2011 09:26 AM
  12. kch50428's Avatar
    I would think they'd sneak the 4g capabilities into this phone since it's a world phone, even though the two have nothing to do with each other
    You can't "sneak" 4G capabilities into this phone - it's a significant hardware change.
    10-24-2011 10:29 AM
  13. kjjb0204's Avatar
    I don't care what 4G means or if LTE or HSPA+ qualify as 4G. All I care about is getting it rolled out as the standard so I can have more choices for fast and reliable service.
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    10-24-2011 10:18 PM
  14. DannyMichel's Avatar
    I don't care what 4G means or if LTE or HSPA+ qualify as 4G. All I care about is getting it rolled out as the standard so I can have more choices for fast and reliable service.
    i don't care what 4g means either. all i care about is the fact that at&t's cellular data is more than 10 times faster than verizon's on iPhones now
    10-24-2011 10:23 PM
  15. anon62607's Avatar
    i don't care what 4g means either. all i care about is the fact that at&t's cellular data is more than 10 times faster than verizon's on iPhones now
    AT&T is about 4.7 times faster than Verizon (14.4 Mbps vs 3.1 Mbps) on iPhone, at least in terms ideal radio conditions on the forward channel to a single user.

    There will probably continue to be at least two post-3G standards, the continuing variants of HSPA and that of LTE, in the US for some time.
    10-25-2011 02:24 AM
  16. DannyMichel's Avatar
    AT&T is about 4.7 times faster than Verizon (14.4 Mbps vs 3.1 Mbps) on iPhone, at least in terms ideal radio conditions on the forward channel to a single user.

    There will probably continue to be at least two post-3G standards, the continuing variants of HSPA and that of LTE, in the US for some time.
    You are wrong. The fastest verizon 3g has ever gone was 1.4MBs
    10-25-2011 02:27 AM
  17. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    You are wrong. The fastest verizon 3g has ever gone was 1.4MBs
    Where'd you get that number from?
    10-25-2011 02:34 AM
  18. DannyMichel's Avatar
    My own speed tests
    Verizon reps
    Speed tests on the internet
    This forum
    10-25-2011 02:35 AM
  19. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    My own speed tests
    Verizon reps
    Speed tests on the internet
    This forum
    It's not the fastest though. What valeuche was referring to, though, was the theoretical max. Of course, you'll never reach the theoretical, but I've seen people hit around 2.0Mbps down.

    Verizon 3G speed test results, Lets Compare?

    iPhone 4S 3G Speed Test: AT&T vs. Sprint vs. Verizon
    10-25-2011 02:43 AM
  20. DannyMichel's Avatar
    It's not the fastest though. What valeuche was referring to, though, was the theoretical max. Of course, you'll never reach the theoretical, but I've seen people hit around 2.0Mbps down.

    Verizon 3G speed test results, Lets Compare?

    iPhone 4S 3G Speed Test: AT&T vs. Sprint vs. Verizon
    yup, so going back to what i said, at&t is at least 10 times faster
    10-25-2011 02:44 AM
  21. anon62607's Avatar
    You are wrong. The fastest verizon 3g has ever gone was 1.4MBs
    I've gotten 2.1 mbit on verizon 3G, at least according to a speedtest result I had stored in my phone. The three 3G tests I'd run show 1884 kbit on 4/21, 2176 kbit on 4/11, and 2150 kbit on 3/27. I don't have any test as low as 1.4 Mbps.
    Last edited by valeuche; 10-25-2011 at 09:32 AM.
    10-25-2011 09:28 AM
  22. DannyMichel's Avatar
    I've gotten 2.1 mbit on verizon 3G, at least according to a speedtest result I had stored in my phone. The three 3G tests I'd run show 1884 kbit on 4/21, 2176 kbit on 4/11, and 2150 kbit on 3/27. I don't have any test as low as 1.4 Mbps.
    whether someone believes that or not, does it really mater if it's 7 or 10 times faster? it's still at least SEVEN TIMES faster
    10-25-2011 09:35 AM
  23. anon62607's Avatar
    My own speed tests
    Verizon reps
    Speed tests on the internet
    This forum
    A crude screenshot (done with another cellphone camera) but here is the results list from my thunderbolt. It's obvious which results are LTE and which are EVDO A.
    10-25-2011 09:38 AM
  24. DannyMichel's Avatar
    A crude screenshot (done with another cellphone camera) but here is the results list from my thunderbolt. It's obvious which results are LTE and which are EVDO A.
    man, i posted on android central again. i thought i was on tipb where we talk iPhones
    10-25-2011 09:39 AM
  25. anon62607's Avatar
    man, i posted on android central again. i thought i was on tipb where we talk iPhones
    You made the comment that the fastest Verizon evdo can go is 1.4 Mbps. I post evidence that this is not the case. You complain that the test was done on an android phone.

    I have also had faster results with a Verizon iPhone 4. The phone isn't with me though and I can't take a screenshot of the results, but evdo a is evdo a, if a thunderbolt can do it an iPhone can do it.
    10-25-2011 09:47 AM
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