1. MustangLife's Avatar
    http://www.tipb.com/2011/10/11/tests...ster-iphone-4/

    As reported by TIPB. The A5 chip evidently has been under-clocked, thank god for ioverclock, speed intensifier and fake clockup, but thats another topic. The 4S is 800Mhz instead of 1Ghz which is kind of displeasing. Speed is always the reason for battery drainage. And 512 RAM. I think alot of people expected 1 GB of Ram and 1Ghz processor but oh well.

    Does this change your mind about buying a new Iphone4S? I still want 1 because I have to have Apples newest product but its a little displeasing.

    Your thoughts.
    Josh

    PS - If this has already been talked about, please disregard.
    10-11-2011 09:27 PM
  2. djrakowski's Avatar
    Not at all. Apple knows how to optimize software such that it runs smoothly on apparently lower-specced hardware. Believe me, I've used dual-core Android devices with 1 GB of RAM and they were still laggy and required frequent reboots.
    10-11-2011 09:29 PM
  3. zackawee27's Avatar
    http://www.tipb.com/2011/10/11/tests...ster-iphone-4/

    As reported by TIPB. The A5 chip evidently has been under-clocked, thank god for ioverclock, speed intensifier and fake clockup, but thats another topic. The 4S is 800Mhz instead of 1Ghz which is kind of displeasing. Speed is always the reason for battery drainage. And 512 RAM. I think alot of people expected 1 GB of Ram and 1Ghz processor but oh well.

    Does this change your mind about buying a new Iphone4S? I still want 1 because I have to have Apples newest product but its a little displeasing.

    Your thoughts.
    Josh

    PS - If this has already been talked about, please disregard.
    I think Apple made up for only using 512 RAM by offering iCloud and for the App Store offering iOverclock. It's no big deal really.
    10-11-2011 09:30 PM
  4. Jellotime91's Avatar
    Eh... Changes nothing to me. Did you not look at the benchmarks? The performance is twice as fast. The clock frequency is absolutely irrelevant, as is the number of RAM, if they can achieve these results.

    I wouldn't care if it was a half-core, 300Mhz processor and 50MB of RAM if they can double the real world performance. Why in the world would it matter to anyone what the number is on the chip if the performance is actually 200% better? ...
    10-11-2011 09:30 PM
  5. Premium1's Avatar
    Not at all. Look at the benchmarks and you will see it performs better at 800mhz than others that are higher clicked. Apple will optimize it so it is buttery smooth.
    10-11-2011 09:34 PM
  6. Premium1's Avatar
    Eh... Changes nothing to me. Did you not look at the benchmarks? The performance is twice as fast. The clock frequency is absolutely irrelevant, as is the number of RAM, if they can achieve these results.

    I wouldn't care if it was a half-core, 300Mhz processor and 50MB of RAM if they can double the real world performance. Why in the world would it matter to anyone what the number is on the chip if the performance is actually 200% better? ...
    Because most get lost in the numbers game and don't realize how they don't play that big of a role if optimized properly.
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    10-11-2011 09:36 PM
  7. djrakowski's Avatar
    Because most get lost in the numbers game and don't realize how they don't play that big of a role if optimized properly.
    I'm done playing the Android numbers game. I want a phone that just plain works. The only smartphone in that category is the iPhone.

    My wife's iPhone 4 works just as smoothly as the day I bought it (February on Verizon). I can't say that for any of the Android phones I've tried for more than a week, and all of them have had higher specs than the iPhone 4S.
    10-11-2011 09:39 PM
  8. Premium1's Avatar
    I'm done playing the Android numbers game. I want a phone that just plain works. The only smartphone in that category is the iPhone.

    My wife's iPhone 4 works just as smoothly as the day I bought it (February on Verizon). I can't say that for any of the Android phones I've tried for more than a week, and all of them have had higher specs than the iPhone 4S.
    I'm in the same boat every android I've owned they slow down over time maybe that is to make you keep up with the new releases every other week. I'll be picking up an 4s Friday I'm done playing the numbers game and being stuck without updates when it becomes available.
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    10-11-2011 09:42 PM
  9. Maestro1#AC's Avatar
    my 5year old laptop only has 1 gb of ram and it does everything fine, I can even play call of duty 4 on it. I also can have a bunch of programs open and its fast. I can't believe that 1GB of ram has become considered a must have on smartphones these days.
    10-11-2011 09:46 PM
  10. Raptor007's Avatar
    Processor speed is alway relative to what the OS is meant to do. Even in the Android world people get worked up over 800Mhz processors even though one processor is different from another and how the device uses it can also differ.

    Given the fact that Apple really didn't make huge leaps in design this time around (bigger screen, new casing, 4G LTE) I still expect the phone to work as a high end smartphone. GPU will also help.
    10-11-2011 09:54 PM
  11. Guacho's Avatar
    Not at all if the speed is what Apple claims, i think this is actually better for the sake of battery life.
    10-11-2011 09:57 PM
  12. tedzone's Avatar
    Doesn't 800mhz dual core translate to 1600mhz? Serious question.
    10-11-2011 09:57 PM
  13. Premium1's Avatar
    Doesn't 800mhz dual core translate to 1600mhz? Serious question.
    It depends if each core is clocked at 800 or if it is 800mhz total.
    10-11-2011 10:00 PM
  14. Raptor007's Avatar
    I just noticed the iOverclock is a Cydia app so you need to jailbreak if you want to go that route. Haven't in the past and not sure I see a need to.
    10-11-2011 10:01 PM
  15. MustangLife's Avatar
    I just noticed the iOverclock is a Cydia app so you need to jailbreak if you want to go that route. Haven't in the past and not sure I see a need to.
    Nobody really needs to just a matter if you want too. But what was the deal breaker for me. Jailbreaking is a 3-5 min process and your done. If you want weather on your lockscreen, be able to use facetime over 3g, download apps over 3g bigger than 20mb's, be able to theme your phone. Have a SMS app that lets you text without exiting the app than jailbreaking is for you.

    Josh
    10-11-2011 10:21 PM
  16. Premium1's Avatar
    Nobody really needs to just a matter if you want too. But what was the deal breaker for me. Jailbreaking is a 3-5 min process and your done. If you want weather on your lockscreen, be able to use facetime over 3g, download apps over 3g bigger than 20mb's, be able to theme your phone. Have a SMS app that lets you text without exiting the app than jailbreaking is for you.

    Josh
    I thought the download limit was changed in IOS 5 because of ota's?
    10-11-2011 10:24 PM
  17. Jellotime91's Avatar
    Nobody really needs to just a matter if you want too. But what was the deal breaker for me. Jailbreaking is a 3-5 min process and your done. If you want weather on your lockscreen, be able to use facetime over 3g, download apps over 3g bigger than 20mb's, be able to theme your phone. Have a SMS app that lets you text without exiting the app than jailbreaking is for you.

    Josh
    You really shouldn't recommend jail breaking to everyone... You'd be surprised how easily people can screw up their phones when they don't know how to do it.

    Jailbreaking is not really a 3-5 minute process, considering how difficult it is to find a working jailbreak most of the time, and the fact that every update means another jailbreak is needed..
    10-11-2011 10:42 PM
  18. hournet562's Avatar
    I am not really that disappointed, while there are some people who love specs, for the average user they will get along just fine with 512mb of ram. The iPhone 4 still works well for me.
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    10-11-2011 10:45 PM
  19. Farmdreads's Avatar
    It doesn't matter what the specs are as long as it is as fast as they say it will be. I am sure that 1 ghz and 1 gb of ram will come when it is needed. I trust Apple to provide us with a product that is far better than their last. They can't afford not to.
    10-11-2011 11:45 PM
  20. ktaylor17815's Avatar
    I now have the original Motorola Droid and I joke that if I ever need to call 911 for an emergency, I would be dead before I could get my phone to make a call. I'm welcoming a hardware change and if I'm displeased, I'll move onto something else.
    Jellotime91 and mariska#AC like this.
    10-12-2011 12:11 AM
  21. chrstdvd's Avatar
    Also, maybe Apple uses the good kind of RAM. there was a big Russ about the Thunderbolt only having 512 RAM while while the ATT Attic had a gig or RAM. Turned out the Thunderbolt has a better quality RAM. Sorry, I do not remember what is called.
    10-12-2011 04:04 AM
  22. reyrey127's Avatar
    it is a little displeasing, but i am not surprised. as everyone mentioned, who is surprised?
    10-12-2011 05:23 AM
  23. MustangLife's Avatar
    I don't know how many of you have experience with iOverclock and FakeClockUp. But iOverclock clocks the cpu up higher to what it can because all Iphones are underclocked for battery reasons. Than fakeclockup speeds up animations like loading screens and in and out of apps. Thes 2 mods together make the iphone4 lightning fast compared to not having them. Overclocking and underclocking a iphone has a very noticeable difference. The first app I download when i do a restore and jailbreak is these 2 apps. Battery life is probaly dropped 10% and is completely safe and with the advanced system app I used to have (can't remember the name) keeps track of the internal temperature on the iphone. The phone doesn't heat up at all. Basically my point is 800mghz vs 1ghz is noticeable. Alot more noticeable than 1ghz to 1.2ghz.
    10-12-2011 05:29 AM
  24. CarrieMK's Avatar
    I'm in the same boat every android I've owned they slow down over time maybe that is to make you keep up with the new releases every other week. I'll be picking up an 4s Friday I'm done playing the numbers game and being stuck without updates when it becomes available.
    You do make a good point. Remember though, that Android is not limited to one manufacturer. There are constant releases of Android phones because there is a wide range of devices in various price ranges available. Some are obviously going to appear to be better than others. I admit that I don't know much about the iPhone and iOS but I can tell you that while there may be people who report random reboots I can honestly say that I have not had a single instance on my NS4G. Before that I had an LG Optimus (it was the right price... free) and it didn't do that either.
    10-12-2011 06:05 AM
  25. CarrieMK's Avatar
    I don't know how many of you have experience with iOverclock and FakeClockUp. But iOverclock clocks the cpu up higher to what it can because all Iphones are underclocked for battery reasons. Than fakeclockup speeds up animations like loading screens and in and out of apps. Thes 2 mods together make the iphone4 lightning fast compared to not having them. Overclocking and underclocking a iphone has a very noticeable difference. The first app I download when i do a restore and jailbreak is these 2 apps. Battery life is probaly dropped 10% and is completely safe and with the advanced system app I used to have (can't remember the name) keeps track of the internal temperature on the iphone. The phone doesn't heat up at all. Basically my point is 800mghz vs 1ghz is noticeable. Alot more noticeable than 1ghz to 1.2ghz.
    I can already tell that if I get an iP4S for myself I will jailbreak it. Rooting and modding is one thing I would miss by leaving Android.
    10-12-2011 06:10 AM
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