1. MustangLife's Avatar
    On the main screen where it has pics and names of the phone with quick details it has 4G on the iphone4S. In the description it says

    Wireless Technology
    GSM/GPRS850/900/1800/1900 MHz
    3G - UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA850/900/1900/2100 MHz
    BLUETOOTH technology4.0Wi-Fi Connectivity802.11b/g/n
    Wi-Fi (802.11n 2.4GHz only)
    4G*HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul

    Now I was under the impression HSPA+ was a 3G supercharged and 4G was LTE in the future like Iphone5.

    Is this false advertising from at&t? And when LTE comes out will they call it than 5G, lol.

    In simplest terms HSPA+ is 3G not 4G so how can at&t call the Iphone4 a 4G phone
    10-11-2011 12:10 AM
  2. mab4285's Avatar
    Technically, even LTE is not "real" 4G. AT&T and T-Mobile have been marketing HSPA+ as 4G for a while now, and since the 4S supports HSPA+, they're marketing it as a 4G phone.
    10-11-2011 12:12 AM
  3. BryanTheRed's Avatar
    AT&T calls their HSPA+ network 4G.... Nothing to get excited about, it's a play on words!
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    10-11-2011 12:13 AM
  4. iancruz4895's Avatar
    maybe because it has the ability to run like 4G
    10-11-2011 12:13 AM
  5. BryanTheRed's Avatar
    maybe because it has the ability to run like 4G
    Can you elaboate on that a little more?
    10-11-2011 12:14 AM
  6. Jellotime91's Avatar
    AT&T calls their HSPA+ network 4G.... Nothing to get excited about, it's a play on words!
    Doesn't T-Mobile call HSPA+ 4G?

    Anyway iPhone 4S is not HSPA+ either, it is HSDPA.

    The other posted was saying maybe because Apple said in the keynote that the download potential is comparable to other 4G devices.
    10-11-2011 12:17 AM
  7. ivan1.ruiz's Avatar
    LTE is not really 4G guys but that's what people advertise I guess.


    " Think different"

    ~ Steve Jobs ~
    10-11-2011 12:17 AM
  8. ivan1.ruiz's Avatar
    I was under the impression iPhone 4s was HSPH+


    " Think different"

    ~ Steve Jobs ~
    10-11-2011 12:19 AM
  9. MustangLife's Avatar
    On my Iphone4 on at&t's network. I was able to get 3.55 Mbps download speeds using speedtest app. So in 3 days when I get the Iphone4S on at&t with HSPA+ I should be able to expect what kind of speeds compared to what I'm getting on the Iphone4 on 3G in my city? Double the speed? Just a tad faster?
    10-11-2011 12:19 AM
  10. BryanTheRed's Avatar
    Doesn't T-Mobile call HSPA+ 4G?
    Yeah, they do. It's all still a play on words as it's not true 4G...
    10-11-2011 12:20 AM
  11. paul-c's Avatar
    The ITU does consider LTE, WiMax, and HSPA+ to be 4G. Loosely, but still. And LTE is the next wave because all of the carriers are going that route.

    ITU Redefines 4G. Again. | News & Opinion | PCMag.com
    10-11-2011 12:35 AM
  12. MustangLife's Avatar
    If the Iphone4S is a 4G phone than shouldn't the Iphone4S have a 4G icon on the status bar along with a 3G icon and a Edge icon. Or will it still say 3G on the status bar. If it still says 3G than thats garbage.
    10-11-2011 12:52 AM
  13. paul-c's Avatar
    It's not a 4G phone though. AT&T just wants to market it that way. The iPhone 4S gets faster 3G speed on AT&T, but it's not as fast as HSPA+.
    10-11-2011 01:01 AM
  14. Garz's Avatar
    AT&T calls their HSPA+ network 4G.... Nothing to get excited about, it's a play on words!
    Should be faster than the 4 though. I will take that even though it's not LTE.
    10-11-2011 01:27 AM
  15. Jellotime91's Avatar
    Yeah, they do. It's all still a play on words as it's not true 4G...
    Err well neither is WiMax or LTE. So let's just drop it. The fact is the 4S has the same possible download speeds on AT&T as many other "4G" devices on other carriers. That's all that really matters. In Canada it's going to make a big difference, as all of our carriers support HSDPA.

    And really, after 5mbps you would never notice a difference on a phone. The rendering speed of the browser can not keep up with 20mbps speeds. Not in your wildest dreams.
    10-11-2011 09:52 AM
  16. Edharv1's Avatar
    If the Iphone4S is a 4G phone than shouldn't the Iphone4S have a 4G icon on the status bar along with a 3G icon and a Edge icon. Or will it still say 3G on the status bar. If it still says 3G than thats garbage.
    Same question here. I know AT&T was trying to work something out with apple about incorporating the 4G icon on the status bar while in 4G areas, Does anyone know if the AT&T version is shipped with this or will it be incorporated in a software update?
    10-11-2011 10:46 AM
  17. EmceeGeek's Avatar
    AT&T is getting ahead of themselves
    10-11-2011 11:16 AM
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