1. Neutrino's Avatar
    @9to5mac: iPhone 4S with iPhone 4 design, dual-mode capability leaked by iTunes http://t.co/fwCQAX6n


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    10-01-2011 03:17 PM
  2. Jeremy's Avatar
    I've been saying it for months. Yes it is. Maybe now people will give up on the mythical "iPhone 5". Doesn't exist people. The 4S is the one phone Apple is releasing this year.
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    10-01-2011 03:21 PM
  3. iSteven's Avatar
    Bad, really bad news .... But unf. high probability it's the 2011 iPhone ...
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    10-01-2011 03:25 PM
  4. Jeremy's Avatar
    Bad, really bad news .... But unf. high probability it's the 2011 iPhone ...
    100% probability.
    10-01-2011 03:29 PM
  5. Premium1's Avatar
    ha sucks for all those who thought it would be a redesign. Will be interesting to see if it is indeed only a minor upgrade how that goes over with people and investors.
    10-01-2011 03:49 PM
  6. DrewBear's Avatar
    68 hours and counting. This will not be a minor upgrade even if the physical form factor remains the same.
    10-01-2011 04:11 PM
  7. gthugballin's Avatar
    still hoping for an iPhone 5
    Last edited by gthugballin; 10-01-2011 at 04:31 PM.
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    10-01-2011 04:26 PM
  8. BLiNK's Avatar
    so far i see no reason to wait on hold for hours to pre-order or stand in a line. if Tuesday does not impress i'll hold onto my upgrade and be happy with iOS 5
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    10-01-2011 04:29 PM
  9. Jeremy's Avatar
    Apple yanked the iTunes beta already. I wonder why...
    10-01-2011 06:04 PM
  10. Premium1's Avatar
    so far i see no reason to wait on hold for hours to pre-order or stand in a line. if Tuesday does not impress i'll hold onto my upgrade and be happy with iOS 5
    Agree with you on this.
    10-01-2011 06:35 PM
  11. Jellotime91's Avatar
    I am kind of indifferent at this point. I have been dreaming about an aluminum back for a long time but I have really enjoyed my iPhone 4 and I'm sure this will be a significant enough upgrade without a visual change. The processor and RAM alone are enough to make me upgrade, I assume the antenna will be changed as well, and that's a good thing (Martha Stewart trolololo).
    10-01-2011 07:24 PM
  12. Edharv1's Avatar
    There will be another iPhone 5 rumor tomm...
    10-01-2011 07:34 PM
  13. redbeard's Avatar
    I've been saying it for months. Yes it is. Maybe now people will give up on the mythical "iPhone 5". Doesn't exist people. The 4S is the one phone Apple is releasing this year.
    And millions more will buy Android phones, I didn't wait 16 months to buy another iPhone 4 with a spec bump, that would be utterly pathetic for the world's most valuable company. The iPhone 4suck is what they should call it, or 4suckers cause that's the only people who will buy it.

    The big question now is, will Apple become the next RIM? "Just good enough" doesn't cut it in this market.

    Where do the lines start for the Nexus Prime?

    And btw, just what in the hell have they been doing the last two years over at Apple? They could have put this turd together in a week.
    10-01-2011 08:20 PM
  14. redbeard's Avatar
    I'd like to add, the iPhone 4 handles iOS 5 just fine, we don't need to buy a new phone and sign another contract to run it. And an 8mp camera sounds like a downgrade in a tiny cell phone camera lens.

    This will be one of Apple's biggest if not the biggest stinker's ever, count on it unless that 5 is hidden somewhere.
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    10-01-2011 08:24 PM
  15. Edharv1's Avatar
    [QUOTE=redbeard;1762315
    And btw, just what in the hell have they been doing the last two years over at Apple? They could have put this turd together in a week.[/QUOTE]

    LMAO!!!! I couldn't agree with you more.
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    10-01-2011 08:30 PM
  16. phreddyl's Avatar
    Since I have Verizon I have only had the 4 since may so I am curious what the new one will be like but won't be that bummed if it's a 4S. I am more looking forward to the new iOS then anything.
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    10-01-2011 09:00 PM
  17. Jellotime91's Avatar
    The big question now is, will Apple become the next RIM? "Just good enough" doesn't cut it in this market.

    Where do the lines start for the Nexus Prime?

    And btw, just what in the hell have they been doing the last two years over at Apple? They could have put this turd together in a week.
    1. Apple is not RIM. They made huge advances in iOS 5 this year, and iOS 4 was already the most stable and intuitive OS out there (and, with the iPod touch and iPad, the most successful mobile OS). They are not getting complacent. Apple could re-release the iPhone 4 exactly as-is, and make it available in just 2 new colours. You can bet your life's savings that there would be line ups as far as the eye can see.

    2. Nowhere. You will find it very easy to be first in line wherever you choose for the next Android hero. People don't have the time or the money to line up again and again every 3 months.

    3. Apple actually takes time to develop their products. Each new device is a real commitment for Apple. And, in what world is 16 months 2 years? It's 1.3 years... Talk about rounding up!

    Personally if there isn't a redesigned iPhone, my thought is that there was, but they couldn't reach the demand or there was manufacturing issues. There is always the possibility though that Apple is being so secretive that even the people leaking these rumours truly believe there is only a 4S, meanwhile Apple's higher-ups are plotting for the iPhone 5 release.
    10-01-2011 09:01 PM
  18. Premium1's Avatar
    1. Apple is not RIM. They made huge advances in iOS 5 this year, and iOS 4 was already the most stable and intuitive OS out there (and, with the iPod touch and iPad, the most successful mobile OS). They are not getting complacent. Apple could re-release the iPhone 4 exactly as-is, and make it available in just 2 new colours. You can bet your life's savings that there would be line ups as far as the eye can see.

    2. Nowhere. You will find it very easy to be first in line wherever you choose for the next Android hero. People don't have the time or the money to line up again and again every 3 months.

    3. Apple actually takes time to develop their products. Each new device is a real commitment for Apple. And, in what world is 16 months 2 years? It's 1.3 years... Talk about rounding up!

    Personally if there isn't a redesigned iPhone, my thought is that there was, but they couldn't reach the demand or there was manufacturing issues. There is always the possibility though that Apple is being so secretive that even the people leaking these rumours truly believe there is only a 4S, meanwhile Apple's higher-ups are plotting for the iPhone 5 release.
    If they don't have an i5 its because they know they can get away with a minor upgrade and people will still buy it not because they can't meet demand or anything like that. That is all marketing ploy.
    10-01-2011 09:17 PM
  19. tlo07's Avatar
    I've been saying it for months. Yes it is. Maybe now people will give up on the mythical "iPhone 5". Doesn't exist people. The 4S is the one phone Apple is releasing this year.
    Please tell me you're kidding! What about the iPhone 5 cases showing up at AT&T stores? I'll be so bummed out if there is only a 4S this year.
    10-01-2011 09:21 PM
  20. Theophany's Avatar
    If they don't have an i5 its because they know they can get away with a minor upgrade and people will still buy it not because they can't meet demand or anything like that. That is all marketing ploy.
    Apple doesn't do that. In the new Steve Jobs era (ie iMac on), Apple doesn't release something they know is **** because they think they can get away with it. Every flop that Apple has had in the past 10 years (AppleTV, MobileMe, etc) has been upgraded at some point to the point that it's a valuable service.


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    10-01-2011 09:21 PM
  21. Jellotime91's Avatar
    If they don't have an i5 its because they know they can get away with a minor upgrade and people will still buy it not because they can't meet demand or anything like that. That is all marketing ploy.
    Yeah and that was part of my point... That it will sell regardless of what they do.

    Anyway just because it isn't visually changed doesn't mean it's a minor upgrade! That logic really baffles me. I've said it before but look at the 2010 MacBook Air vs the 2011 MacBook Air. Same body, totally different performance. It's a big upgrade, regardless of the appearance.
    10-01-2011 09:22 PM
  22. Premium1's Avatar
    Yeah and that was part of my point... That it will sell regardless of what they do.

    Anyway just because it isn't visually changed doesn't mean it's a minor upgrade! That logic really baffles me. I've said it before but look at the 2010 MacBook Air vs the 2011 MacBook Air. Same body, totally different performance. It's a big upgrade, regardless of the appearance.
    Yeah but iPhone 4 runs ios5 fine so many would see it as not really worth an upgrade.
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    10-01-2011 09:24 PM
  23. DannyMichel's Avatar
    I've been saying all along that there was going to be no redesign and I admit I thought there'd be a 4s and a 5. Even if by some miracle, they do come out with a 5 some time shortly after the 4s, I'm sure the 5 won't be redesigned


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    10-01-2011 09:48 PM
  24. hoosieriphone's Avatar
    I think Apple is throwing us a curve so to speak. There will be a 4S as shown in the iTunes site. I still believe that Apple is releasing 2 phones on Tuesday. To show the 4S and then pull the iTunes is absurd if they are only going with 1 new phone next week. With everything I have read, my gut feeling is that there will be an iPhone 5.
    10-01-2011 09:53 PM
  25. DannyMichel's Avatar
    I think Apple is throwing us a curve so to speak. There will be a 4S as shown in the iTunes site. I still believe that Apple is releasing 2 phones on Tuesday. To show the 4S and then pull the iTunes is absurd if they are only going with 1 new phone next week. With everything I have read, my gut feeling is that there will be an iPhone 5.
    Yep, you're probably right actually


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    10-01-2011 10:07 PM
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