1. Freiteez's Avatar
    Only works on iphone 4s, it needs 1gb of ram.
    That's IF the 4S has 1gb of ram...no one really knows yet
    10-07-2011 09:23 PM
  2. Genericmessage00's Avatar
    Only works on iphone 4s, it needs 1gb of ram.
    Maybe with the iPhone 5 (ya know, the thing everyone was wishing for?)


    Several reports are indicating it only has 512mb

    That'd be the same as the iPhone 4


    Can we please put this to rest?

    They need every hook they can get to have people buy the 4s, and siri is one of those hooks.
    They'll keep it exclusive to the 4s SO THEY CAN SELL IT!

    It's a marketing move, not a hardware limitation.

    Please don't forget it used to be available right on the app store. (as some smart people before me have mentioned)
    10-07-2011 09:34 PM
  3. iamjose's Avatar
    I don't really care that it is built into the iPhone 4s... I just think the original app should be left alone. I mean there were several things you couldn't do on the Siri app that I'm sure you could do on the iPhone 4s built in feature, in order to maintain some level of exclusivity.


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    10-07-2011 11:56 PM
  4. eye4ni's Avatar
    You can wish in one hand, and want Siri to work on an iP4 in the other - and all you're gonna end up with is a hand full of wish.

    I've done some research into this - and as has been noted above, some in the JB community have indeed tried to force Siri onto an iP4. Guess what... it doesn't work. Sometimes, they say something is only available on a specific product because that's the way it is.
    You don't honestly believe this, do you? It CAN be done, I am sure of this. Like others above have already said, this is just Apple trying to sell the iPhone 4 again by adding an "S" to the name. Android has had excellent voice actions/dictation for a while now, and it doesn't require 1gb ram or an A5 processor, my evo was doing it just fine a year and a half ago.
    10-08-2011 02:17 AM
  5. Timhewitt's Avatar
    Did you ever RUN the old Siri app on the current hardware? It was not more than a technology demonstration, be was clearly a stripped down version.

    The developer is on record stating that the 4S is the first hardware capable of running the app.

    Why do you guys insist in seeing conspiracy and evil in the world? Your lives must be very sad indeed
    10-08-2011 03:02 AM
  6. Timhewitt's Avatar
    ... And your Evo was NOT running Siri Assistant, an artificial intelligence natural language processor.

    Voice control has been around for a decade. This is not simple voice command.
    10-08-2011 03:04 AM
  7. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    Did you ever RUN the old Siri app on the current hardware? It was not more than a technology demonstration, be was clearly a stripped down version.

    The developer is on record stating that the 4S is the first hardware capable of running the app.

    Why do you guys insist in seeing conspiracy and evil in the world? Your lives must be very sad indeed
    Did 'they' send you?
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    10-08-2011 09:48 AM
  8. diamonddialogue's Avatar
    Siri really sold me on the new iPhone. Without it, I'm not sure I'd have been so quick jumping to want to ditch my iPhone 4 for the 4S. I do wish we had more independent reviews of the device, though, to make more decisions from - though I'm sure it's pretty sweet.
    10-08-2011 12:22 PM
  9. eye4ni's Avatar
    Did you ever RUN the old Siri app on the current hardware? It was not more than a technology demonstration, be was clearly a stripped down version.

    The developer is on record stating that the 4S is the first hardware capable of running the app.

    Why do you guys insist in seeing conspiracy and evil in the world? Your lives must be very sad indeed
    Not seeding conspiracy, I just do not believe that the 4s is the only hardware capable of running such software. There is more to the Siri features than the personal assistant, which I think is kinda neat, but probably won't get used by 90% of iPhone owners. The other part of siri, which was only briefly touched on and is in beta is the dictation. This is what most iPhone users would use, while driving etc. this is something that my evo did really well, and I think should be offered to all iPhone users.

    I cannot vouch for the technical specs required for the personal assistant, but I am sure that most would really appreciate that little microphone button on their keyboard and would use it regularly, I know that I would.
    Last edited by eye4ni; 10-08-2011 at 12:47 PM.
    10-08-2011 12:42 PM
  10. Timhewitt's Avatar
    The guy who wrote the software says differently, and I believe him over you. Sorry.
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    10-08-2011 01:08 PM
  11. Genericmessage00's Avatar
    The guy who wrote the software says differently, and I believe him over you. Sorry.
    Do you know him personally? You must! You have all the right answers!

    Could you get us an interview?
    I am sure we'd all love to ask him some questions!
    10-08-2011 02:08 PM
  12. eye4ni's Avatar
    The guy who wrote the software says differently, and I believe him over you. Sorry.
    For the record, I am sure he is correct in saying that in it's current form, the assistant feature could not run on ip4 (I am not a developer, so what the hell do I know anyway?). I am very confident, however, that the dictation feature (most useful IMO) could certainly work even on the iphone 3GS.... Lets see what the jailbreakers come up with.
    10-08-2011 02:12 PM
  13. gthugballin's Avatar
    The guy who wrote the software says differently, and I believe him over you. Sorry.
    Who is this guy? And when did he say it... source please? (and don't say apple keynote because they said that the 3gs couldn't have HDR and it can via jailbreak)

    I believe SIRI will be available on the iPhone 4. To me its just a matter of how hard will it be for the jail breakers to port and will they put fourth the effort.
    10-08-2011 03:43 PM
  14. kch50428's Avatar
    You can wish in one hand, and want Siri to work on an iP4 in the other - and all you're gonna end up with is a hand full of wish.

    I've done some research into this - and as has been noted above, some in the JB community have indeed tried to force Siri onto an iP4. Guess what... it doesn't work. Sometimes, they say something is only available on a specific product because that's the way it is.
    You don't honestly believe this, do you? It CAN be done, I am sure of this. Like others above have already said, this is just Apple trying to sell the iPhone 4 again by adding an "S" to the name. Android has had excellent voice actions/dictation for a while now, and it doesn't require 1gb ram or an A5 processor, my evo was doing it just fine a year and a half ago.
    I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't believe it... smh.

    Can it be done? Maybe. Point is, it's NOT being done. SIRI is being written specifically for the 4S hardware profile. Get over it. And if you're Evo is/was so great, why are you here?
    10-08-2011 04:03 PM
  15. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    lol...bored Android owners living vicariously through happy iPhone owners.
    10-08-2011 05:54 PM
  16. kfreemanii's Avatar
    i think it will! in update hopefully
    10-08-2011 07:34 PM
  17. diamonddialogue's Avatar
    I could almost be certain that, like everyone has been saying, a jailbreak will likely be the only way Siri will run on your iPhone 4 - and it will likely run poorly compared to the 4S. This isn't bashing, it's just likely the truth.

    Yes, Apple is marketing Siri on the 4S to sell it, but you have to understand they were built for one another. You can get Siri running on the iPhone 4 eventually, but it just won't run as smoothly or as Apple intended on older devices. There's no reason to get bitter - any of you folks with an iPhone 4 who are bitter about not ordering a 4S, get on Craigslist and sell your 4 for about $300 - $400, then go buy yourself a 4S. There's no reason to badmouth something that's not even released yet like anyone really knows. More light will be shed on the subject after the device release, and everyone will sound more credible.

    So be happy, iPhone 4 or iPhone 4S - you still have a killer device.
    10-08-2011 11:28 PM
  18. Bro-row's Avatar
    I second Vlingo.
    10-08-2011 11:38 PM
  19. MustangLife's Avatar
    Siri on Iphone4S iOS5 - Yes
    Siri on Iphone4 iOS5 - No
    Siri did exist in the app store on the iphone4 prior to Apple buying it and modifying it and throwing it at the Iphone4S for a strong selling point.
    So some kind of Siri technology is definately possible on the Iphone4. Anyone thats educated in the jailbreak world knows, that anything that the mind can come up with a developer can do it in jailbreak form of course. The devs have already looked at Siri and will have to make there own version of it to work on the Iphone4. Apple made it hard to just copy and throw at the Iphone4. The devs will have to spend some good time and research for it to work on the Iphone4. One day we will see some kind of Siri technology available in a jailbroken app. 4 years ago people would say it would be impossible to sync a phone over wifi and now look. Tether a phone as a modem. Advanced Voice Control on the iPhone4 from Apple will never happen. Its up to whoever that wants to develop it to make it now.

    Josh
    10-08-2011 11:48 PM
  20. Timhewitt's Avatar
    Siri on the older hardware was dramatically dumbed down and had a very high failure rate. The developer has stated the 4S is the first hardware capable of running the full system.
    10-09-2011 12:32 AM
  21. ivan1.ruiz's Avatar
    I guess we will have to upgrade if we want our own humble personal assistant Siri
    10-09-2011 01:02 AM
  22. ksoenandar's Avatar
    Hopefully it does work.
    10-09-2011 01:42 AM
  23. icebox93's Avatar
    If the feature requires logging into an apple server to use, like the old app did, i gather it would be easy for apple to limit users of the server to 4S users, meaning that JB may not help any. But if it will be possible, it makes sense that it would require a jailbroken phone.
    10-09-2011 02:38 AM
  24. Timhewitt's Avatar
    Yes, it connects to an apple server to work...
    10-09-2011 03:08 AM
  25. icebox93's Avatar
    I suspected as much. That probably means that Apple will be able to limit siri to whichever devices it wants, and us iP4 users are pretty much going to be on the outside looking in when it comes to Siri.
    10-09-2011 03:25 AM
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