1. Ham Solo's Avatar
    I certainly don't see the harm in having an LED notification. Especially if it could be disabled. Then everyone would be happy.
    06-15-2011 10:09 AM
  2. Chavista's Avatar
    Because Its UGLY AS HELL!!
    06-15-2011 10:52 AM
  3. Fausty82's Avatar
    There is no LED on the iPhone because Steve said so.
    And as with most things, Steve was right. IMHO
    06-15-2011 11:31 AM
  4. redbeard's Avatar
    Reading this thread I had this horrible mental image of an led under the bezel - you know the way you see lights around vehicle license plates? Every time the phone rings, the bezel blinks purple or green making it the perfect phone for my student population.

    Bleh.

    As adults who know we are dependent on our phones, we should be able to just look at it regularly to make sure we haven't missed something career changing.
    That makes no sense, I guess as adults we don't need all kinds of things.. A notification light would come in real handy for us adults who work in environments where we cannot access our phones constantly and need them.

    Just because something isn't interesting to you, or anyone else doesn't mean Apple shouldn't add it. There were many people last year who hated the idea of a front facing camera, and went on and on about how it's "un-Apple like", and how they would never use it. Once Steve Jobs announced it they all changed their tune though.

    There are so many more important things to worry about in this world whether or not someone might make their phone light up, I don't care one bit about what others do with their phones. If some people don't want to use a certain feature they don't have to, and the funny thing is iOS5 has a notification light, it's just on the back and way too bright for everyday use. So I don't see what the opposition is all about.

    The iPhone 1, 2, 3, and 4 all still work for those apposed to change
    06-15-2011 11:13 PM
  5. cajunrph's Avatar
    I miss the red blinking light. And how is it ugly? It's just a light under a clear plastic covering. Light please, you already swiped Android's notification system, now go for BB light.
    06-15-2011 11:59 PM
  6. grunt0300's Avatar
    I am personally opposed to the flashing LED light. I do not think that it is needed, however, if it is added with a way to disable it, then i guess it doesn't matter if it's there or not. I prefer to use the Force, anyway!
    06-16-2011 12:10 AM
  7. johnkey's Avatar
    The only time I miss it is when some knucklehead reminds me that it's not there. I'll forget about it in 2 minutes.
    06-18-2011 08:10 AM
  8. hoosieriphone's Avatar
    I really miss the LED I had on my BB. That is the only thing I miss...believe me.
    06-18-2011 10:34 AM
  9. Jellotime91's Avatar
    I don't really understand the point of it. It doesn't convey any information, just whether or not there is a notification and possibly which type if the colour can change. That's it. I'd end up turning on the screen to see what it is, anyway, and I will always know there's a notification on my iPhone because I feel it vibrate. That tells me there's a notification, and I don't need a flashing LED to remind me. How is it saving any time if you're taking out your phone to look at the LED? Might as well just press the home button and see what's what.
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    06-18-2011 11:32 AM
  10. dsmith3427's Avatar
    Alot of people refer to the LED as something exclusive to BB. I mean most of my dumb phones had some sort of LED notification.
    06-18-2011 11:44 AM
  11. dsmith3427's Avatar
    I don't really understand the point of it. It doesn't convey any information, just whether or not there is a notification and possibly which type if the colour can change. That's it. I'd end up turning on the screen to see what it is, anyway, and I will always know there's a notification on my iPhone because I feel it vibrate. That tells me there's a notification, and I don't need a flashing LED to remind me. How is it saving any time if you're taking out your phone to look at the LED? Might as well just press the home button and see what's what.
    One thing I have noticed which I hate with the Iphone is if I get an email and didn't hear the tone there is no visual cue I have an unread email. I need to hit the power or home button and then swipe and unlock the screen to see if there is the little red number over my email icon. It would also be nice to make sure the phone is fully charged without having to leave it on or turn it on to see this very basic feature. A simple LED could take care of both of these little issues for me. Very annoying.
    Last edited by dsmith3427; 06-18-2011 at 12:18 PM.
    06-18-2011 11:48 AM
  12. Caballera's Avatar
    That makes no sense, I guess as adults we don't need all kinds of things.. A notification light would come in real handy for us adults who work in environments where we cannot access our phones constantly and need them.
    What's the point of a LED notification if you can't access your phone? If you can access your phone just check it more if it's that important to you.

    Personally I find it annoying, specially when I have my phone in my room at night, one it's dark and the flashing light is annoying, two I don't want to be a slave to my phone. If it's that important to you they still sell Blackberry's, get them before they are gone.
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    06-18-2011 12:17 PM
  13. dsmith3427's Avatar
    What's the point of a LED notification if you can't access your phone? If you can access your phone just check it more if it's that important to you.

    Personally I find it annoying, specially when I have my phone in my room at night, one it's dark and the flashing light is annoying, two I don't want to be a slave to my phone. If it's that important to you they still sell Blackberry's, get them before they are gone.
    Not trying to argue here but just kind of wondering about your logic. If you don't want a blinking light to bother you at night and you don't want to be a slave to your phone...why would you have it on at night in your bedroom then?

    To answer your question about access for some. I know in some workplaces they require phones to be silenced or put on vibrate. What made BB nice is you could silence the phone and leave it in your sight and when the LED started to blink you know you have a meassage.

    There really is no down side to Apple giving us an LED especially if it can be disabled. What I think we have here, and it's what makes forums like this great, is just some back and fourth debating over a real non-issue. I mean for right now in my current life situation I have ZERO use for the forward facing camera. Only time I used it was when I got the phone to test it out. Other than that, never been turned on. Does that mean I think Apple should do away with it? Absolutley not. Next year I might have a need for it and boom it's there.
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    06-18-2011 12:29 PM
  14. Cerberus2k7's Avatar
    I really miss the LED I had on my BB. That is the only thing I miss...believe me.
    I'm learning to live without. With my 9700 I will always glance at it and see if the red LED blinks and I have a habit to check anyways "just in case". One thing I did like about the Inspire was that you could change the color of the LED pending on what type of notification you wanted it tied to and I think that would be pretty sweet on an iPhone since you can pick what colors match up to what.
    06-18-2011 05:58 PM
  15. Jellotime91's Avatar
    One thing I have noticed which I hate with the Iphone is if I get an email and didn't hear the tone there is no visual cue I have an unread email. I need to hit the power or home button and then swipe and unlock the screen to see if there is the little red number over my email icon. It would also be nice to make sure the phone is fully charged without having to leave it on or turn it on to see this very basic feature. A simple LED could take care of both of these little issues for me. Very annoying.
    In iOS 5 emails are treated like SMS in terms of notifications. They're given the same priority, and you can see if you have an email on your lock screen. Problem solved.

    @dsmith3427

    But, if you have one and it's disabled, even if they hide it well, it will be dark dot that is visible in the bezel, especially on the white models... That would bother me to no end, even when the bezel is black I will still notice it and I will hate it. Just for argument's sake...
    Last edited by Jellotime91; 06-19-2011 at 02:37 AM.
    06-19-2011 02:34 AM
  16. dsmith3427's Avatar
    In iOS 5 emails are treated like SMS in terms of notifications. They're given the same priority, and you can see if you have an email on your lock screen. Problem solved.

    @dsmith3427

    But, if you have one and it's disabled, even if they hide it well, it will be dark dot that is visible in the bezel, especially on the white models... That would bother me to no end, even when the bezel is black I will still notice it and I will hate it. Just for argument's sake...

    That really doesn't solve the issue since if my phone is on mute I will never know I have any notifications and I still have to leave the phone on to make sure it's fully charged. And having a black dot on a bezel is I'm sure absolutely no visual cue that would keep anyone from purchasing a tool. Personally I don't buy a phone based on looks, I buy it on funtionality. Again, my only complaint with this device is its horrible job of notifications mainly compounded by a lack of an LED. In this regard Apple is severely behind the competition.
    06-19-2011 09:26 AM
  17. anon4705295's Avatar
    Personally I find it annoying, specially when I have my phone in my room at night, one it's dark and the flashing light is annoying, two I don't want to be a slave to my phone. If it's that important to you they still sell Blackberry's, get them before they are gone.
    THIS THIS THIS! Gah I HATED my Blackberry blinking at me in the night. I sleep through most of the notification alarms, but I have to leave my phone on in case someone tries to call me, such as an emergency, but with BB you can't turn the light off! At least, with my BB you couldn't. That was irritating as HECK. If we could turn it off, though, I'd love to see a blinking light on the iPhone, just to shut people up LOL! I do think it would be cool to have like, the square on the home button slowly light up and darken if you have a notification. Unobtrusive but visible without unlocking the screen - win win!
    06-19-2011 09:32 AM
  18. anon4705295's Avatar
    But, if you have one and it's disabled, even if they hide it well, it will be dark dot that is visible in the bezel, especially on the white models... That would bother me to no end, even when the bezel is black I will still notice it and I will hate it. Just for argument's sake...
    Unless Apple made it look like the front-facing camera, but on the other side of the ear speaker... the one thing that bothers me about the iphone is the front camera takes away the symmetry, bigtime. This could definitely help that imho.
    06-19-2011 09:34 AM
  19. dsmith3427's Avatar
    THIS THIS THIS! Gah I HATED my Blackberry blinking at me in the night. I sleep through most of the notification alarms, but I have to leave my phone on in case someone tries to call me, such as an emergency, but with BB you can't turn the light off! At least, with my BB you couldn't. That was irritating as HECK. If we could turn it off, though, I'd love to see a blinking light on the iPhone, just to shut people up LOL! I do think it would be cool to have like, the square on the home button slowly light up and darken if you have a notification. Unobtrusive but visible without unlocking the screen - win win!
    You could actually turn all alerts off including the LED but leave the phone active with Blackberry to receive calls. Very nice feature that hopefully Apple will adopt. Something would indicate to me that with IOS 5 now including the capabilty to make the flash into an LED for use with notifications (software update), they realize the need and want for this feature and update the next Iphone (hardware) with this feature.
    06-19-2011 10:40 AM
  20. lenmac08#IM's Avatar
    if you jailbreak and get BiteSMS, you can use the LED flash to notify you of a text message for all or select contacts...pretty cool
    06-19-2011 10:45 AM
  21. dsmith3427's Avatar
    if you jailbreak and get BiteSMS, you can use the LED flash to notify you of a text message for all or select contacts...pretty cool
    Yes, thanks for the info.
    06-19-2011 11:09 AM
  22. hoosieriphone's Avatar
    Just give us the LED Steve. Give us the option to disable it if we want. Give me a call Steve and we can discuss this. LOL
    06-19-2011 11:15 AM
  23. dsmith3427's Avatar
    Just give us the LED Steve. Give us the option to disable it if we want. Give me a call Steve and we can discuss this. LOL
    plus one here
    06-19-2011 12:38 PM
  24. Jellotime91's Avatar
    That really doesn't solve the issue since if my phone is on mute I will never know I have any notifications and I still have to leave the phone on to make sure it's fully charged. And having a black dot on a bezel is I'm sure absolutely no visual cue that would keep anyone from purchasing a tool. Personally I don't buy a phone based on looks, I buy it on funtionality. Again, my only complaint with this device is its horrible job of notifications mainly compounded by a lack of an LED. In this regard Apple is severely behind the competition.
    Oh really? You can't feel your phone vibrate? And even when your phone is not on your body, you can't hear it vibrate?? If you're not paying attention to it enough to hear or feel it vibrate, you're obviously not going to see a tiny little LED flashing anyway. :P
    06-19-2011 01:39 PM
  25. dsmith3427's Avatar
    Oh really? You can't feel your phone vibrate? And even when your phone is not on your body, you can't hear it vibrate?? If you're not paying attention to it enough to hear or feel it vibrate, you're obviously not going to see a tiny little LED flashing anyway. :P
    After using a BB for the past six years, trust me the LED light is a very useful feature. There are times when I can't or don't want to hear the phone but I place it right next to my computer at work and when the light caught my eye I knew something was there. The IPhone is an epic failure in this regard. Also, I hate not knowing when the phone is fully charged. Can't believe I have to turn it on or leave it on just to find that out.

    I think you are really just kind of arguing for the sake of arguing. If the next IPhone has an LED that COULD also be disabled...why is that so "earthshakingly" wrong? I mean shoot, the new IOS already has this feature to make the current IPHone have the feature by using the camera flash, really can't see why it won't be there next generation with the new hardware. With Apple continually striving to make the IPhone a more business accepted phone, this is one major change they probably won't overlook.
    Last edited by dsmith3427; 06-19-2011 at 02:22 PM.
    06-19-2011 02:18 PM
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