1. BLiNK's Avatar
    05-31-2011 12:44 PM
  2. sting7k's Avatar
    Interesting change of stance from WHO, and what great timing for this thread!
    Last edited by sting7k; 05-31-2011 at 01:03 PM.
    05-31-2011 12:54 PM
  3. BLiNK's Avatar
    WHO: Cell phone use can increase possible cancer risk - CNN.com[/url]



    Aww... Really? I've heard of this one before. So, it's really true?
    can't wait for you to reach your 10 posts so we can see what exhilarating app you're about to post
    05-31-2011 01:52 PM
  4. BLiNK's Avatar
    Interesting change of stance from WHO, and what great timing for this thread!
    very amazing timing
    05-31-2011 01:53 PM
  5. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    I am not too worried about it. I will continue to operate same as usual :-)
    05-31-2011 08:59 PM
  6. BLiNK's Avatar
    "General rule of thumb: The smarter the phone, the more radiation."

    quoted from a CNN article

    Mobile phones: How to 'keep your brain away from the antenna' - CNN.com
    05-31-2011 11:14 PM
  7. johny2shoes's Avatar
    Ahhhhh so that would explain my 3rd testicle
    06-01-2011 06:19 AM
  8. anon4705295's Avatar
    I believe it. My cousin's wife's dad got a small tumor in his chest behind his shirt pocket... Where he'd kept his blackberry everyday for more than a decade. I always carry my phone in different places, just in case.

    Judging by this thread, when did "it's better to be safe than sorry" suddenly go out the window? Sheesh...
    06-01-2011 09:56 AM
  9. khyrk's Avatar
    So, if the phone is on I should not be playing games on it? How am I gonna play without actually touching the device?
    06-01-2011 12:32 PM
  10. jnewell's Avatar
    This only applies when the phone is near the head...which only happens when using the phone for voice...and then only if not using a headset or the speakerphone...which means that approximately 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001% of all smartphone use, since nearly all use is for email, SMS, web browsing, gaming, etc. Who'd want to use a phone as a phone???
    06-01-2011 01:16 PM
  11. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    So, if the phone is on I should not be playing games on it? How am I gonna play without actually touching the device?
    haha, use airplane mode! :P
    06-01-2011 03:04 PM
  12. golfnut's Avatar
    Not too worried about it..as of now. I think folks are dismissing this problem too quickly. However, in time, as the number of people rise that are affected by it, the mood and views will rapidly change.
    Then the question will be, "I wonder if I could be one of the affected people?"
    Until then, just laugh at it and have fun!!
    06-01-2011 03:24 PM
  13. BLiNK's Avatar
    Cell phones and radiation: The 10 highest- and lowest-emitting models - CNN.com

    Lowest radiation levels:

    1. LG Quantum (AT&T): 0.35 watts per kilogram

    2. Casio EXILIM (Verizon Wireless): 0.53 W/kg

    3. Pantech Breeze II (AT&T, AT&T GoPhone): 0.55 W/kg

    4. Sanyo Katana II (Kajeet): 0.55 W/kg

    5. Samsung Fascinate (Verizon Wireless): 0.57 W/kg

    6. Samsung Mesmerize (CellularONE, U.S. Cellular): 0.57 W/kg

    7. Samsung SGH-a197 (AT&T GoPhone): 0.59 W/kg

    8. Samsung Contour (MetroPCS): 0.60 W/kg

    9. Samsung Gravity T (T-Mobile): 0.62 W/kg

    10. (tie) Motorola i890 (Sprint); Samsung SGH-T249 (T-Mobile): 0.63 W/kg

    Highest radiation levels:

    1. Motorola Bravo (AT&T): 1.59 W/kg

    2. Motorola Droid 2 (Verizon Wireless): 1.58 W/kg

    3. Palm Pixi (Sprint): 1.56 W/kg

    4. Motorola Boost (Boost Mobile): 1.55 W/kg

    5. Blackberry Bold (AT&T, T-Mobile): 1.55 W/kg

    6. Motorola i335 (Sprint): 1.55 W/kg

    7. HTC Magic (T-Mobile): 1.55 W/kg

    8. Motorola W385 (Boost Mobile, U.S. Cellular, Verizon Wireless): 1.54 W/kg

    9. Motorola Boost i290 (Boost Mobile): 1.54 W/kg

    10. (tie) Motorola DEFY (T-Mobile); Motorola Quantico (U.S. Cellular, MetroPCS); Motorola Charm (T-Mobile): 1.53 W/kg

    Some other high-profile phones fared somewhere in the middle on the rankings. The SAR level of the Apple iPhone 4 was 1.17 W/kg (for the AT&T model; the Verizon model wasn't listed). Exposure levels for the dozens of BlackBerry models varied widely.
    06-01-2011 03:36 PM
  14. Watcher's Avatar
    can't wait for you to reach your 10 posts so we can see what exhilarating app you're about to post
    This is THE BEST post of the day!!! I congratulate you, sir.
    06-01-2011 03:46 PM
  15. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    So Samsungs seem to have the lowest and Motorola the highest. I was thinking about picking up the Motorola Defy.
    06-01-2011 03:56 PM
  16. sdmcwilliams70's Avatar
    I have 3 kids and I am already snipped so no problems here.
    06-01-2011 07:53 PM
  17. BLiNK's Avatar
    Editor's note: Bernard Leikind is a physicist. He has researched and taught at the University of Maryland, UCLA, General Atomics and the Livermore Laboratory. He has written essays about the cell phone radiation controversy for the Skeptic, a publication of the Skeptics Society, a scientific and educational organization that examines controversial claims. He pays T-Mobile about $40 a month for his cell phone service, which constitutes all of his financial dealings with cell phone companies. Click here for another viewpoint on cell phones and radiation.

    (CNN) -- This week, the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer announced that it believed cell phones were a "possible" carcinogen, putting them in the same category as diesel fumes, dry cleaning fluid, talcum powder and coffee. They are making a mistake.

    It is too large and complex a matter to work out the details of their errors here. They discount the fundamental results of their own major studies, choosing to emphasize the questionable data from a small sub-group of their subjects. They ignore the century of physics research that strongly establishes the facts.

    Microwaves from cell phones cannot cause cancer. This fact arises from more than 100 years of experiments and thought in electromagnetism, quantum mechanics and thermodynamics.

    A cell phone radiates about 1 watt of electromagnetic waves. The waves go in all directions to find the cell tower. Molecules in the user's hand, ear, scalp, skull and brain absorb the radiation that passes by. Microwaves try to grab molecules and shake them. The radiation fields love water molecules, and there are many of those in a brain. The fields try to shake what they grab back and forth about a billion times a second.

    Warning on cell phones an important first step - CNN.com

    All those molecules, however, are close to many neighbors. They continually knock into each other, transferring energy. Each molecule also vibrates, rotates and twists. The frequency of the collisions that exchange energy between all the molecules is about a trillion times a second. As the microwaves try to shake molecules a billion times a second, the molecules are sending the incoming energy to their neighbors a thousand times faster.

    The energy from the phone's microwave fields rapidly spreads throughout all of the molecules in the tissues. This energy forms a part of the tissue's internal energy, and as the internal energy increases, the temperature increases.

    Blood from elsewhere enters the warmed tissue. It absorbs some of the new energy and carries it away throughout the body. Eventually, the energy passes to the environment.

    WHO: Cell phone use can increase possible cancer risk - CNN.com

    These facts describe the process by which any molecules absorb microwave radiation. If a researcher wishes to propose some mechanism by which cell phone microwaves might cause cancer, he or she must begin here.

    But any such proposal faces an insurmountable problem. We all know of many processes that do exactly the same thing as the microwaves. These other processes are more intense -- some of them many times more intense -- than any cell phone's microwaves. If increasing tissues' internal energy with microwaves causes cancer, then so will these other processes.

    What are these other processes? Here are some: basal metabolism, fever or inflammation, wearing a ski cap and scarf, drinking a cup of hot coffee or tea or a bowl of soup, and exercise.

    A cell phone radiates about a watt of power, similar to a tiny holiday light. The body absorbs a part of that, which is rapidly spread throughout the body by the blood. This is much smaller than the amount of power produced by the chemical reactions that keep our cells alive, expressed in watts per kilogram. Converting the number of food calories I burn in a day to watts (a physicist's power unit), I am like a 90-watt light bulb.

    When I exercise on a treadmill, in 30 minutes I burn 500 or 600 calories. Converting that to power gives about 1,200 watts. Divide by 85 kilograms, my mass, to find that while I am exercising, about 14 or 15 watts per kilogram appear throughout my body.

    If less than 1 watt per kilogram from the cell phone can cause cancer, by some unknown means, then why doesn't my exercise, which is more than 15 times more intense, also cause cancer? Surely, we would have noticed if it did. I may sprain my ankle jogging along the street, but I will not give myself cancer.

    The radiation from a cell phone is more intense in the caller's skin and hand, ear, scalp and skull, than it is in the brain. Skin cells replicate many times more often than any brain cell, which makes them more vulnerable to the breakdowns that lead to cancer. Why aren't we seeing an epidemic of skin cancer?

    Readers need not worry about developing brain cancer while using their cell phones. I recommend, however, that you do not text while you are driving, and that you always wear your seat belt.

    The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Bernard Leikind.
    interesting....
    06-02-2011 03:13 PM
  18. Barings Prod's Avatar
    arg .... horrible
    06-04-2011 05:09 AM
  19. Altamisal's Avatar
    Check out this video. According to the research done by this Dr., the problem with cell phones is the erratic nature of the signal, which interferes with DNA repair. This is new information.

    Cell Phone Dangers | Dr. Devra Davis @ National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS) - YouTube
    08-03-2012 10:56 PM
  20. mikesa_tx's Avatar
    Not one bit. I carry mine in my pocket all the time.
    08-08-2012 12:54 AM
  21. synaesthee's Avatar
    The only time I ever lost/broke a phone was because I had it in a holster. Aside from that ONE MONTH I had a holster, I've always carried my iPhone in my pocket. Actually, the other day, I was thinking denim would make a great iPhone case because of all the times I've thrown my jeans on the floor with my phone in the pocket. *THUNK* .... fine.
    08-20-2012 12:10 PM
  22. labrat4sar's Avatar
    The GAO just issued its report which found that the FCC's 16 year old testing procedures do not test cell phones the way they are used - in pockets. They warned that using a cell phone in a pocket can expose the user to microwave emissions that exceed the federal safety guidelines. This is especially true for children as the FCC's exposure testing uses a "dummy" head that is the size of a 6'2" 220 pound man and children's brains absorb twice the microwave radiation from cell phones as a adult's brain.

    Every iPhone user manual has a warning to never carry or use an iPhone directly against the body as in a pocket - but they hide it in the fine print where you won't find it. Look in your manual under FCC compliance information and use a magnifying glass to find it. And, now Apple has made it even more difficult to find as they hide the warning on their website!!

    Why are we not hearing about this? Because the cell phone industry has $$ billions to spend on funding their own "friendly" research studies as well as paying high-powered lobbyists in DC, not to mention the $$ billions in campaign contributions to key state and federal legislators - also, the corporate run media continues to just parrot industry's party line that cell phones have not been proven to be hazardous. So, if they aren't proven dangerous, they must be safe?!

    So, yes - there are warnings to never wear or use a cell phone in the pocket. And there are independent peer-reviewed studies showing damage to the fetus from exposure to cell phone radiation.

    Get your iPhones out of your pockets, especially if pregnant or wanting to have children.

    And, don't let your children and babies play with them if they are connected to a network as they are not the safe consumer products the industry would have us believe they are.

    The industry is following tobacco's playbook - claiming that it is our responsibility to prove they aren't safe....and until that time, the manufacturers and providers are raking in $$ BILLIONS in profit.....all the while hiding known safety warnings from their users.
    08-29-2012 08:19 PM
  23. BLiNK's Avatar
    The GAO just issued its report which found that the FCC's 16 year old testing procedures do not test cell phones the way they are used - in pockets. They warned that using a cell phone in a pocket can expose the user to microwave emissions that exceed the federal safety guidelines. This is especially true for children as the FCC's exposure testing uses a "dummy" head that is the size of a 6'2" 220 pound man and children's brains absorb twice the microwave radiation from cell phones as a adult's brain.

    Every iPhone user manual has a warning to never carry or use an iPhone directly against the body as in a pocket - but they hide it in the fine print where you won't find it. Look in your manual under FCC compliance information and use a magnifying glass to find it. And, now Apple has made it even more difficult to find as they hide the warning on their website!!

    Why are we not hearing about this? Because the cell phone industry has $$ billions to spend on funding their own "friendly" research studies as well as paying high-powered lobbyists in DC, not to mention the $$ billions in campaign contributions to key state and federal legislators - also, the corporate run media continues to just parrot industry's party line that cell phones have not been proven to be hazardous. So, if they aren't proven dangerous, they must be safe?!

    So, yes - there are warnings to never wear or use a cell phone in the pocket. And there are independent peer-reviewed studies showing damage to the fetus from exposure to cell phone radiation.

    Get your iPhones out of your pockets, especially if pregnant or wanting to have children.

    And, don't let your children and babies play with them if they are connected to a network as they are not the safe consumer products the industry would have us believe they are.

    The industry is following tobacco's playbook - claiming that it is our responsibility to prove they aren't safe....and until that time, the manufacturers and providers are raking in $$ BILLIONS in profit.....all the while hiding known safety warnings from their users.
    god damnit. just when i was starting to feel better about it FML
    08-29-2012 09:13 PM
  24. Exxod's Avatar
    I'm guessing that means I shouldn't keep my iPhone strapped to my head?
    BLiNK likes this.
    08-29-2012 10:29 PM
  25. Timhewitt's Avatar
    The sky is falling! The sky falling!

    There have been millions spent trying to correlate cell phone radiation with cancer. Nothing yet

    The WHO put it into the "maybe, might be" category - the same place talcum powder lives...

    Until such time as science finds a real link, mine is staying in my pocket.
    08-29-2012 11:19 PM
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