1. petersenjp's Avatar
    I still have this feeling, as soon as the iphone 4s/5 is announced, VZW will drop the unlimited data and go to tier'd. I just have this feeling (no facts behind this) that they are going to try to catch people waiting for the newest.

    Next, from all the rumors, the up coming device isn't really ground breaking in anyway. Upgraded cameras, probably faster processor, you know, the typical upgrades.

    Finally, if you are always waiting for the next device, you will be waiting forever, there will always be rumors in the world of apple that a new device is coming out.

    Good luck with your decisions, but in my eyes, grab the i4 and enjoy it. It really is an amazing phone.
    05-25-2011 07:58 AM
  2. anon(5298)'s Avatar
    Well i got it narrowed down between the White iPhone 4 or a HTC Thunderbolt. I was also considering waiting for the Samsung Galaxy S II. Going back to look at both the HTC and iPhone today. I sort of laughing at myself for making this stressful, but to me 2 yrs is a lot to invest. Plus i'm wondering when Verizon is going to stop their unlimited plans.
    The TB suffers from EXTREMELY horrible battery life and imo, the negatives outweigh the positives at this point.. What is the point of owning an LTE phone that needs to be plugged in every 4-6 hours? They are called "wireless" for a reason..

    I chose the white iPhone 4 over this phone and like others, have not looked back since. Nobody knows when the new iPhone is coming so you have to go with the decision that makes the most sense at this moment if you cannot hold out for the next gen iPhone.

    Best of luck!
    05-25-2011 12:17 PM
  3. icehead13's Avatar
    I've decided to go back to ATT and get a white iPhone 4. I'll wait on iPhone 6or 7 before i get another.
    05-28-2011 02:44 PM
  4. DonNguyen#IM's Avatar
    I'll wait on iPhone 6or 7 before i get another.
    I'm with you on this one...LTE/4G/whateveryouwannacallit won't be out for at least another year and a half so the next iterations won't be that big of a change in my eyes...
    05-29-2011 02:10 AM
  5. ptb127's Avatar
    I walked into the Verizon store with the intent of getting a New White iPhone 4,but i got to looking at the Droid phones and the thought of the New iPhone coming out in a few months and thought i should wait. Any one else getting more confused. I thought the Droid Charge was nice, but the Ive had a Evo before and know they suck power. Just trying to figure it out.
    I am not even sure how much of a dramatic increase the next iPhone will be. Maybe a little bit faster with better processor or dual core etc.. but how long will it take before apps could take advantage of it? You would probably be ready for another upgrade by then! I am more excited about iOS 5 then I am about better hardware. I mean the screen is already by far the best in the industry. It could be a little bigger but without losing the resolution and screen clarity. Recently traded my black 32GB for a white one. I absolutely LOVE the white one. Don't look back on decisions you make though, especially with cell phones, they will drive you crazy!
    05-29-2011 07:42 AM
  6. ba_hamilton's Avatar
    I bought my son an iphone4 for his birthday 2 days ago. It is a sweet phone. He was looking at the android phones but really had his heart set on the iPhone. I'm a blackberry user myself but could see myself switching to the iPhone when it's time to upgrade next.
    05-29-2011 08:10 AM
  7. jnewell's Avatar
    I can't even get consistent 3G coverage here in the Boston area....4G is a battery vampire...4G may turn out to be more expensive, tho that's not what VZW claims now...lots of reasons not to hold my breath for 4G/LTE.

    I'm with you on this one...LTE/4G/whateveryouwannacallit won't be out for at least another year and a half so the next iterations won't be that big of a change in my eyes...
    05-29-2011 09:12 PM
  8. PhoneAddict's Avatar
    I just pick up a IP4 this past week and also thought about waiting for the next version. Glad I decided to go with the 4 as the phone is amazing and as of now, based on what I have read, the enhancements discussed in the next version are not earth shattering based on my needs.
    05-30-2011 07:09 AM
  9. ivybiznatch's Avatar
    I can't even get consistent 3G coverage here in the Boston area....4G is a battery vampire...4G may turn out to be more expensive, tho that's not what VZW claims now...lots of reasons not to hold my breath for 4G/LTE.
    I live north of Boston and very rarely, if ever, have trouble with Verizon 3G on my iPhone. My work laptop uses AT&T 3G and I have nothing but problems. I can have 5 bars on my iPhone and the laptop will only have 1 and can't connect.
    05-30-2011 07:17 AM
  10. Pimp Lucious's Avatar
    I walked into the Verizon store with the intent of getting a New White iPhone 4,but i got to looking at the Droid phones and the thought of the New iPhone coming out in a few months and thought i should wait. Any one else getting more confused. I thought the Droid Charge was nice, but the Ive had a Evo before and know they suck power. Just trying to figure it out.
    Where are you located? Is there 4G in your area? I have an Evo running Gingerbread/Sense 3.0 so I really had little desire to upgrade to the Evo 3D. I decided to open a new line on parents Verizon account to try the iPhone, maybe even switch over for a year. I was really feeling very limited by the iPhone, even jailbroken and was pretty much back on my Evo with the iPhone sitting on the counter during the last week of my 2 week return period. Then boom, Verizon turns on 4G here in Montgomery, AL. I take the iPhone back and pick up a Thunderbolt intent on trying it for a few weeks. I was certain there was no way I could buy pretty much the same phone again, just on Verizon, but the 4G is amazing. My Evo is collecting dust now and the Sprint line is about to be shut down. Once you go true Verizon LTE you can never go back. It was as dramatic as the move from 2G to 3G. Verizon's widespread 3G coverage is well known, but even the new 4G extends way out into the small towns surrounding the big markets. I though about going with the Charge, just so I could feel like I was on something new, but decided to root and load up a Gingerbread/Sense rom on the thunderbolt. I figure I will pass it on to pops once a good dual core LTE phone comes to Verizon. On a related note, every time I go into the Verizon Store, all the action is on the Android side. I know there will be lines come the next iPhone, but it seems like the other 10/11 months out of the year, Android is the place to be. I know there has been a definite shift when I see older folks walking in asking about Android phones.
    05-30-2011 08:08 AM
  11. anaphora68's Avatar
    What, exactly, do you use LTE speeds for? 3G works perfectly for me as far as streaming audio and video here in Philly. That, and when I'm at home, I'm on WIFI. Everything I've heard about LTE is that it is a battery hog, and the Thunderbolt gets absolutely terrible battery life.

    Everyone I know that has a Bolt has regretted getting it after two months. Four hours and a dead battery does not a mobile phone make.
    05-30-2011 10:36 AM
  12. Alli's Avatar
    The iPhone doesn't do LTE. Possibly whatever iPhone is released in 2012. True LTE is available in so few places it's not worth it. Verizon turned on 4G last week in Montgomery (and a few other cities here in AL), but not LTE.
    05-30-2011 11:31 AM
  13. jnewell's Avatar
    Reception, like politics and real estate, is local. I have an AT&T BB issued by my employer and it has the same problems, so for me, both carriers are the same, and neither is very good.

    I live north of Boston and very rarely, if ever, have trouble with Verizon 3G on my iPhone. My work laptop uses AT&T 3G and I have nothing but problems. I can have 5 bars on my iPhone and the laptop will only have 1 and can't connect.
    05-30-2011 04:03 PM
  14. jnewell's Avatar
    What, exactly, do you use LTE speeds for? 3G works perfectly for me as far as streaming audio and video here in Philly. That, and when I'm at home, I'm on WIFI. Everything I've heard about LTE is that it is a battery hog, and the Thunderbolt gets absolutely terrible battery life.

    Everyone I know that has a Bolt has regretted getting it after two months. Four hours and a dead battery does not a mobile phone make.
    My hunch is that once LTE is more widely rolled out, app developers and content providers will start trying to take advantage of the greater speeds, which may make 3G devices start looking unmanageably slow. I hope I'm wrong!
    05-30-2011 04:04 PM
  15. Pimp Lucious's Avatar
    What, exactly, do you use LTE speeds for? 3G works perfectly for me as far as streaming audio and video here in Philly. That, and when I'm at home, I'm on WIFI. Everything I've heard about LTE is that it is a battery hog, and the Thunderbolt gets absolutely terrible battery life.

    Everyone I know that has a Bolt has regretted getting it after two months. Four hours and a dead battery does not a mobile phone make.
    I tether my iPad, kids iPod Touch's and a notebook when we are out and about. Stream MSNBC on JustinTV on the work. Of course I don't watch it, but I can't find an audio only stream. On 3G it would buffer or stop from time to time. when I step out of the office my podcast all update within under a minute, whereas on 3G one podcast would take minutes. Seriously, anyone questioning the need for 4G is pretty silly. Do you question the need for a WiFi radio in your phone since it has 3G? I'm certain when it rolls out on the iPhone than you will embrace it with open arms and curse 3G as you would curse having to go back to 2G. As far as batter is concerned, I have a charger in my car and one at work. My battery never dips below 50%. Plus we arent talking about an iPhone. A battery can be swapped out in mere seconds. The fact that most smartphones outside of the iPhone use a standard micro USB plug now, Im never more than a few feet away from a charging source.


    The iPhone doesn't do LTE. Possibly whatever iPhone is released in 2012. True LTE is available in so few places it's not worth it. Verizon turned on 4G last week in Montgomery (and a few other cities here in AL), but not LTE.
    Confused. Verizon turned on LTE. You can argue whether or not it's true 4G, but it's certainly LTE. The speeds Im getting along with low latency is akin to being on constant WIFI wherever I go. Would you choose 3G over WiFi when WiFi is available? Exactly.
    05-30-2011 09:50 PM
  16. Alli's Avatar
    Fast speed does not equal LTE. From Wikipedia:

    3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE), is the latest standard in the mobile network technology tree that produced the GSM/EDGE and UMTS/HSPA network technologies.[1][2] It is a project of the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP), operating under a name trademarked by one of the associations within the partnership, the European Telecommunications Standards Institute.

    The current generation of mobile telecommunication networks are collectively known as 3G (for "third generation"). Although LTE is often marketed as 4G, first-release LTE does not fully comply with the IMT Advanced 4G requirements. The pre-4G standard is a step toward LTE Advanced, a 4th generation (4G)[3] standard of radio technologies designed to increase the capacity and speed of mobile telephone networks. LTE Advanced is backwards compatible with LTE and uses the same frequency bands, while LTE is not backwards compatible with 3G systems.

    MetroPCS and Verizon Wireless in the United States and several worldwide carriers announced plans, beginning in 2009, to convert their networks to LTE. The world's first publicly available LTE-service was opened by TeliaSonera in the two Scandinavian capitals Stockholm and Oslo on the 14th of December 2009. LTE is a set of enhancements to the Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) which was introduced in 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) Release 8. Much of 3GPP Release 8 focuses on adopting 4G mobile communication's technology, including an all-IP flat networking architecture. On August 18, 2009, the European Commission announced it will invest a total of 18 million into researching the deployment of LTE and the certified 4G system LTE Advanced.[4]

    While it is commonly seen as a cell phone or common carrier development, LTE is also endorsed by public safety agencies in the US[5] as the preferred technology for the new 700 MHz public-safety radio band. Agencies in some areas have filed for waivers[6] hoping to use the 700 MHz[7] spectrum with other technologies in advance of the adoption of a nationwide standard.
    05-30-2011 10:32 PM
  17. anaphora68's Avatar
    This is ridiculous. The MAJORITY of people don't stream podcasts on the go. There is, simply put, not a lot of use for true 4G for the average mobile user. What are you going to do when Verizon stops offering unlimited data? You stream a few podcasts using your super-fast 4G connection, and guess what, you're out of data.

    True story.

    If you don't like the iPhone, fine. Move along, and stop posting on this forum. You're on an iPhone blog.

    I've used every mobile OS out there. I was a heavy Android user for years until I switched back to the iPhone. iOS is simply smoother, and the battery life on the iPhone 4 is fantastic. You shouldn't have to carry three batteries around, and constantly need to charge up. That's not a feature, it's a burden.

    Different strokes for different folks. I'm perfectly fine downloading podcasts in the morning, syncing them to my phone, and listening to them when I have a few moments.
    05-30-2011 10:42 PM
  18. Pimp Lucious's Avatar
    You mad? Some reason you getting so upset over my like of LTE and how the Thunderbolt battery life is not a problem for me. Step back for a moment breath. You are upset because I have access to and like to use the fast speeds Verizon has made available, and I'm paying the exact same price as I would for 3G. My use of my phone should not anger you. I have more iOS products than Android. I've been a member of this forum much longer than you and will continue to express my opinion respectfully. The fact that you don't like it means little to me. You chose to respond to my post directed at the thread starter, then get upset because I had the audacity to answer your question.


    Fast speed does not equal LTE. From Wikipedia:

    3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE), is the latest standard in the mobile network technology tree that produced the GSM/EDGE and UMTS/HSPA network technologies.[1][2] It is a project of the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP), operating under a name trademarked by one of the associations within the partnership, the European Telecommunications Standards Institute.

    The current generation of mobile telecommunication networks are collectively known as 3G (for "third generation"). Although LTE is often marketed as 4G, first-release LTE does not fully comply with the IMT Advanced 4G requirements. The pre-4G standard is a step toward LTE Advanced, a 4th generation (4G)[3] standard of radio technologies designed to increase the capacity and speed of mobile telephone networks. LTE Advanced is backwards compatible with LTE and uses the same frequency bands, while LTE is not backwards compatible with 3G systems.

    MetroPCS and Verizon Wireless in the United States and several worldwide carriers announced plans, beginning in 2009, to convert their networks to LTE. The world's first publicly available LTE-service was opened by TeliaSonera in the two Scandinavian capitals Stockholm and Oslo on the 14th of December 2009. LTE is a set of enhancements to the Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) which was introduced in 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) Release 8. Much of 3GPP Release 8 focuses on adopting 4G mobile communication's technology, including an all-IP flat networking architecture. On August 18, 2009, the European Commission announced it will invest a total of 18 million into researching the deployment of LTE and the certified 4G system LTE Advanced.[4]

    While it is commonly seen as a cell phone or common carrier development, LTE is also endorsed by public safety agencies in the US[5] as the preferred technology for the new 700 MHz public-safety radio band. Agencies in some areas have filed for waivers[6] hoping to use the 700 MHz[7] spectrum with other technologies in advance of the adoption of a nationwide standard.
    Alli you are completely arguing in support of my statement. Verizon turned on LTE, not LTE Advanced. LTE Advanced fits to the bill of true 4G. I stated in my last post that you can argue against LTE being true 4G, but it is still LTE. Regardless, who cares about terms and definitions. What counts are real world test. Here are my results.



    The bottom is my 10/1 cable internet service, the middle is Verizon 3G and the top is Verizon 4G. So for the same price I should be content with 3G over 4G? C'mon folks
    05-31-2011 11:00 AM
  19. anaphora68's Avatar
    Mad? Don't think, for a second, that I care about posts people make on an online forum. Like you, I was expressing my opinion.

    Go back to my post and read the comment: Different strokes, for different folks. That's great that you like the Thunderbolt. I have an HTC Inspire 4G on AT&T, too. Good OS (rooted with CM7), but for me, my needs are battery life first, everything else second. I'll be at Fort Leonoard Wood for the foreseeable future, so 4G/LTE are not anywhere near my wish list for the time being.

    Definitely not mad, I apologize for coming across that way.

    On a semi-related note, have you tried using the Front Facing Camera to video chat on 4G? How is it?
    05-31-2011 11:42 AM
  20. BewitchedWitch21#AC's Avatar
    from what I've heard of the Iphone 5, or possible other names...I don't know if I'd be that interested. I heard it may be larger, and then widgets and things like that. I really love my iphone 4, so I decided to purchase and not wait. Really depends on what is important to you, (if you really like the iphone 4, or are on the fence and could deal with waiting)
    05-31-2011 12:05 PM
  21. Pimp Lucious's Avatar
    Then everything is cool. Smartphones are give and take. For what you gain on one OS, you have to give up things on another. I loved the iPhone battery life. Even when I was using wifi tethering it seemed to just sip on the battery, relative to my Android devices. I also loved the build quality and design, except for the smaller screen. Unfortunately, the things I liked about Android the most such notifications, app tie ins to the OS, information available immediately in widgets without the need for opening an app(such as my twittter/Facebook feeds and calendar/task), could not be duplicated in a satisfying manner on the iPhone.

    I can't apologize for my love affair with LTE though. Everything on that you do on the phone that uses the data connection(a lot for me), is just so much more pleasing. Its just there when you need it, no waiting for data to finishing downloading. It's about as dramatic as the move from dialup to broadband was for me. The family does much on mobile devices, the the importance of having this fast mobile connection can not be understated. I have not used the front facing camera on the Thunderbolt with LTE yet, but I will later today.
    05-31-2011 12:10 PM
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