1. macharborguy's Avatar
    Why is it that people blast the iDevices for lack of the "standardized mini-usb port"? I took a look at the 30-pin Dock Connector wiring diagram.

    Apple iPod, iPhone (2g, 3g), iPad Dock connector pinout and wiring @ pinouts.ru

    USB Data (for sync)
    Firewire Data (likely legacy tech)
    Charging
    Stereo Analog Audio Out
    Stereo Analog Audio In
    Composite Video Out
    Component Video Out
    VGA Output
    HDMI Output


    Apparently Dell has a connector like this as well for the Streak, but appears to have added USB 3 and DisplayPort as the replacement for FireWire, while still supporting USB2 as well.


    What can a mini-usb port do? Charge and sync.

    I for one like these all in one cables.
    Last edited by macharborguy; 05-04-2011 at 03:34 PM.
    05-04-2011 03:31 PM
  2. Maxi's Avatar
    I don't understand too dude...
    05-05-2011 08:40 AM
  3. newiphoneuser's Avatar
    I don't believe, and forgive me if i am wrong, that the dell streak mini usb supports the following from your list:
    Stereo Analog Audio Out
    Stereo Analog Audio In
    Composite Video Out
    Component Video Out
    VGA Output
    HDMI Output

    Perhaps the composite/component video may not be that big of a problem to implement but I cannot see HD picture streaming from a mini USB port.

    Also, and dont quote me on this, the EU has made it a standard for future mobile devices to have mini USB ports. This was obviously not applied to apple because their dock connector supports all these services which the mini USB port wont.
    05-05-2011 09:41 AM
  4. maxburn's Avatar
    There was some sort of EU decision recently that all phones need to be sold with a way to charge via micro USB. There was discussion at the time that apple would just include a dock to micro USB adapter to comply with it. I wouldn't mind having one of those.
    05-05-2011 12:19 PM
  5. macharborguy's Avatar
    I don't believe, and forgive me if i am wrong, that the dell streak mini usb supports the following from your list:
    Stereo Analog Audio Out
    Stereo Analog Audio In
    Composite Video Out
    Component Video Out
    VGA Output
    HDMI Output

    Perhaps the composite/component video may not be that big of a problem to implement but I cannot see HD picture streaming from a mini USB port.

    Also, and dont quote me on this, the EU has made it a standard for future mobile devices to have mini USB ports. This was obviously not applied to apple because their dock connector supports all these services which the mini USB port wont.
    Dell Streak's "proprietary" connector is actually PDMI

    PDMI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    05-05-2011 05:04 PM
  6. takeshi's Avatar
    What can a mini-usb port do? Charge and sync.

    I for one like these all in one cables.
    Every option has pros and cons. Mini USB is a universal standard. The dock connector isn't. Use what works for you. Why does it matter what others think or prefer?
    Last edited by briareus; 05-05-2011 at 06:04 PM.
    05-05-2011 06:01 PM
  7. macharborguy's Avatar
    Every option has pros and cons. Mini USB is a universal standard. The dock connector isn't. Use what works for you. Why does it matter what others think or prefer?
    Thats just it. The whole idea of it being a standard. It may be a universal standard, but it is not really used all that universally.

    All my digital cameras have MicroUSB. My friends Motorola feature phone uses mini-USB, my girlfriends Samsung phone uses a usb connector that is thinner and wider than Micro-USB, my MyFi uses another oddball micro-USB shape.

    People can like what they like, but my question is "why do you like it or want it on these devices, compared to a single all-in-one cable solution". A cellphone only has so much real-estate, so a single multipurpose connector makes perfect sense.

    Either way, the cable still outputs to the complete standard USB plug, so thats really as "standard" as it needs to be on that end.
    05-05-2011 08:11 PM
  8. smalcom's Avatar
    I have a uNu external battery/case which is also a dock, and the connection from my computer to the uNu is a USB micro connector. I can charge and sync my iPhone 3GS through the USB when it is in the case, so I guess that Apple could use a micro USB port with no problems.
    05-05-2011 09:56 PM
  9. ajonesma's Avatar
    dont understand either dude
    05-05-2011 10:48 PM
  10. i_kkk's Avatar
    Steve creates iPhone but restrict it too.... I have a Android phone too
    05-09-2011 06:01 AM
  11. p2kart's Avatar
    I appreciate all the functions the 30 pin dock connect gives, but for a regular user of the iphone most are unnecessary...

    I need sync and charge...

    I went on a trip before where I forgot my dock cable... it would be nice to walk into a dollar store and pick up a mini-usb cable. Instead I had to buy a really overpriced dock cable for just charging the phone.
    05-10-2011 12:35 AM
  12. Disturbed_Angel's Avatar
    I appreciate all the functions the 30 pin dock connect gives, but for a regular user of the iphone most are unnecessary...

    I need sync and charge...

    I went on a trip before where I forgot my dock cable... it would be nice to walk into a dollar store and pick up a mini-usb cable. Instead I had to buy a really overpriced dock cable for just charging the phone.
    To me this is really the issue. They have used the same Apple 30pin for years, and with as popular as the iDevices are, the simple replacement cables are like twice as much as if you had to buy a mini or mico USB. I get it, the iDevices are a premium product, but, really, its just a cable. If we could just get to Mini, Micro, and the 30 pin to cover 98% of cell phones and the like, in a similar price range, I think that would be a step forward. Just my $0.02
    05-10-2011 12:48 AM
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