1. busyme's Avatar
    Could'nt an AT&T or Verizon store trace the number and call the owner?
    02-24-2011 05:31 PM
  2. gueren's Avatar
    i have been on this side of the fence with lost phones ive found 2 cell phones simply opened up the phone book called anything that said mom or dad and made arrangements to get them their phone back if i was on the other side i would appreciate somebody doing the RIGHT thing you have a 800 dollar brick do the right thing return it to a verizon store if there is indeed no contacts to tell you the truth this whole post looks like you trying to get over and activate a new iphone for yourself
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    02-24-2011 06:40 PM
  3. englishsoup#IM's Avatar
    Not to **** on the original posters party, just because you found it does not make it theft if you fail to carry out "due diligence". This means that you must exhaust all avenues to attempt to find the owner the property. This means contacting the carrier, you have a way of doing this, the phone will still go through to the carrier and you have already mentioned you have used *611 already and gotten through.

    I think you know that it has a bad ESN because I think that, no I am 100% sure, because of what you said, that Customer Service have told you that it has been reported missing to them and they have blocked the phone temporarily. I am also pretty sure that they asked you to return it to the nearest Verizon store, just from what you have already said!

    Myself and I know others are already blatantly aware from what you said that you feel that because you "picked it up" that it is you phone now. It doesn't work that way.

    Any bets that your next avenue would be to try and sell it on ebay or craigslist on the basis that you bought it and didn't like it and try and palm it off onto some sucker.

    You really did come to the wrong place for advice on activated a lost or stolen iphone. Just the same as it would to go to a crackberry forum for a lost or stolen Blackberry.

    People pay money for their phones and you should at least make a whole hearted attempt at returning it to them and you don't live a million miles away from a verizon store. If you are uncomfortable about too many questions at the verizon store then put it an envelope with a note saying you found it and couldn't locate the owner and mail it to the local store. At least then you will have a clear conscience that you have tried!

    What you have already said makes it blatant that you haven't even tried and believe that opportunity has knocked!

    I'm sorry for you. Not as sorry as I am for the person that lost (or ???) the iphone!
    02-24-2011 07:00 PM
  4. BryanTheRed's Avatar
    Not that I agree with him keeping it, but honestly, we dont do anything with it either, unless a police report is filed. If no report is filed, it sits in LaF bin waiting for 45 days before its burned or thrown out. Most people dont file cases on phones. We are lucky if we get 1-2 a year. Best case scenario would have been to leave it at the BigBox store.
    You're exactly right!

    You all can sit here and claim to take the moral high road if you want, if he reported it to CS at the place he found it and no one claims it it's his to keep. At least that is how it is here. Every state is different in regards to these laws, I wouldn't go around generally applying what you think is right to this situation. If he feels like he has done what he needs to try and find the owner and can live with the decision he makes then it is none of your business. Just answer his question and move along or don't comment.

    To the OP, to answer your question, if the ESN is bad then no there is no way you can activate it on Verizon's network. You still may be able to sell it on eBay with a disclaimer that the ESN is bad, some of those people don't care and will buy it for various reasons. Just a thought...
    02-24-2011 07:28 PM
  5. Elaine5006's Avatar
    I found a lost Iphone and would like to activate it. I am sure the ESN will be bad. Is there a way activate it on Verizon?
    Try to find the owner. That would be the right thing to do.
    02-25-2011 12:33 AM
  6. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    The OP didn't even attempt to contact VZW to see is the ESN is bad. If they made it bad then they would know who the owner is of the device. So what did he do, tell Walmart that he found a phone and gave them his number? Ummm ok. I know when I find something I leave it at place I found it so they can do what they need to not keep it for myself and then try to activate it. What's the worst that can happen if he calls Verizon? They either say yes, the ESN is bad and can track down the original owner or the ESN is good and it hasn't been reported stolen so then the OP can activate it. Don't see what's so hard about that.
    02-25-2011 02:11 PM
  7. CalifJewls's Avatar
    Uhhhh really?? Honestly?? I can think of several things I would have done and none of them included logging onto a forum, where others bought and paid for their iPhones, and then proceed to post a ****** bag question... Karma is a *itch, wait for yours it's coming!!
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    02-25-2011 02:27 PM
  8. JakePleasants's Avatar
    that will be the day. the law can't punish the real crooks are they really going to punish honest people. i don't think so. well, maybe that's exactly what they would do.
    If you're an honest person, I'd hate to see what a dishonest person would do.

    You're exactly right!

    You all can sit here and claim to take the moral high road if you want, if he reported it to CS at the place he found it and no one claims it it's his to keep. At least that is how it is here. Every state is different in regards to these laws, I wouldn't go around generally applying what you think is right to this situation. If he feels like he has done what he needs to try and find the owner and can live with the decision he makes then it is none of your business. Just answer his question and move along or don't comment.

    To the OP, to answer your question, if the ESN is bad then no there is no way you can activate it on Verizon's network. You still may be able to sell it on eBay with a disclaimer that the ESN is bad, some of those people don't care and will buy it for various reasons. Just a thought...
    Did you miss the part where he asked us to assist him in his criminal endeavors? He wanted to clone the ESN of another phone and transfer it to the iPhone. That's illegal in EVERY state.
    02-26-2011 08:32 AM
  9. areyes163's Avatar
    You should turn it in to Verizon. Walmart won't do anything. Why would you think letting them know would do any good. And yes not turn the phone in is theft. You know you have something that can easily be traced back to the owner. That is why you won't contact verizon only Walmart. Personally I hope Verizon finds out you have it and notify the police. Yes that does happen. Just turn the phone in to verizon.
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    02-26-2011 09:33 AM
  10. debo6052's Avatar
    You should turn it in to Verizon. Walmart won't do anything. Why would you think letting them know would do any good. And yes not turn the phone in is theft. You know you have something that can easily be traced back to the owner. That is why you won't contact verizon only Walmart. Personally I hope Verizon finds out you have it and notify the police. Yes that does happen. Just turn the phone in to verizon.
    couldn't have said it any better!!! totally agree
    02-26-2011 09:35 AM
  11. rshackleford's Avatar
    If the owner has reported it lost or stolen will they be able to tell verizon or at&t that it is found and get the ESN reverted to "good" status?

    if they can't then what is the point in returning it. it is still a brick.
    Last edited by rshackleford; 02-26-2011 at 07:03 PM. Reason: correct confusing wording
    02-26-2011 04:56 PM
  12. Darth-gamer's Avatar
    If the owner has reported it lost or stolen will they be able to tell verizon or at&t that it is not found and get the ESN reverted to "good" status?

    if they can't then what is the point in returning it. it is still a brick.
    What? Your first sentence is confusing. When the owner reports that phone as stolen the ESN is put into the BAD list forever. The ONLY way for it to come off is for the owner to report it as "found".
    02-26-2011 07:00 PM
  13. rshackleford's Avatar
    after having read these posts my awareness has been raised on laws relating to esn's. i have found this link:

    FCC: Wireless Services: Cellular Services: Operations: Fraud

    the information at this link does make it very clear that it is not legal to perform such a transfer of esn's as i was inquiring about.
    02-26-2011 07:15 PM
  14. Elaine5006's Avatar
    after having read these posts my awareness has been raised on laws relating to esn's. i have found this link:

    FCC: Wireless Services: Cellular Services: Operations: Fraud

    the information at this link does make it very clear that it is not legal to perform such a transfer of esn's as i was inquiring about.
    So now that your awareness has been raised on laws. What are you going to do with the phone?
    02-26-2011 07:21 PM
  15. rshackleford's Avatar
    I never had the phone.

    An employee came to me with this question and offered to sell me the phone. It seemed easier to place myself in his position than to go through the effort of explaining things second hand. I embellished some details in effort to get the question answered as to if there was a way to do what I just now found out is a federal offense. He did claim to have found the phone at Walmart and speak to customer service, but I have no idea if he actually looked through the contacts. I also later learned that is was an AT&T Iphone 3g.

    I have made a strong plea to the employee that he should turn the phone on and look for contact information for the owner.

    The phone was supposedly found in Williston, North Dakota.
    02-26-2011 07:29 PM
  16. jhamilton3's Avatar
    I'd say this thread has definitely run its course.

    Closed.
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    02-26-2011 07:31 PM
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