1. mikesa_tx's Avatar
    Hey, I'll just say it: If your going to be a **** about it then you deserve the responses you get.

    If you'll notice, not everyone is posting just positive things about the phone, including myself, and that is great, BUT it seems that a lot of people are looking for things that are minor and calling them the #1 problems they have with the phone.

    If you are having actual issues with fundamental features not working (i.e. you can't get e-mail because it won't sync or you can't facetime) then by all means we want to hear about it! However, if you want to make up scenarios about some possible way that one small feature might possibly be a bad thing then you are going to get these responses.
    Couldn't of said it better myself.
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    02-11-2011 06:14 PM
  2. nitsuj's Avatar
    Hey, I'll just say it: If your going to be a **** about it then you deserve the responses you get.

    I guess I'm not sure how I was a ****. There a function of the phone that I don't like. It's not imaginary, it's not perceived, and it's not far fetch. You're obviously a bit insecure, that's on you. I am having a problem with a fundamental feature. And I posted it here looking to discuss it and share ideas about it. It may be nothing to you, that's fine, for you and how YOU use the phone. But if it's an issue for me (even a minor one) then I don't see how I'm a **** by discussing it. And I'm not real sure why you feel the need to call names just because you don't have any concerns about the same issues that concern me. The problem I specified is a minor one, but it's something I'm not crazy about. It's MY #1 problem. And so far, it's really the only thing I dislike about the phone.

    You don't care about it? Fine. Find another thread to involve yourself with. It's obviously not just an issue with me. Further searching would point out that others have mentioned it. And there is even rumors of Apple hiring a guy specifically experienced with engineering alert systems.

    The scenarios I laid out were purposely a little far fetched, to add a little humor into my post. And I said so in the post. You disagree fine. Say so. Or skip the thread. But don't be so insecure that you feel the need to tell me my problem isn't worthy of discussion, or that I'm a **** for merely mentioning it. I didn't rant, I didn't say the phone was garbage that I wanted to return it. I like the phone and the only issue I have with it is a minor one. I'm just sorry I thought this was the place to discuss it.
    02-11-2011 07:01 PM
  3. Elaine5006's Avatar
    If you are at work shouldn't you be working and not playing on your phone??
    and actually you can turn it off go into settings> messages> and turn show preview off and all it does is show the persons name who sent the message and that you have a text message.
    I guess I shouldn't have posted something so negative and meaningless. I'll stop now so everyone can get back to something important like the one millionth "uboxing" video.

    I am glad that you asked this question. Even though shipwresler125 scolded you he did give an answer. I learned something from the post. Thanks.
    02-11-2011 07:40 PM
  4. Darth-gamer's Avatar
    I guess I'm not sure how I was a ****. There a function of the phone that I don't like. It's not imaginary, it's not perceived, and it's not far fetch. You're obviously a bit insecure, that's on you. I am having a problem with a fundamental feature. And I posted it here looking to discuss it and share ideas about it. It may be nothing to you, that's fine, for you and how YOU use the phone. But if it's an issue for me (even a minor one) then I don't see how I'm a **** by discussing it. And I'm not real sure why you feel the need to call names just because you don't have any concerns about the same issues that concern me. The problem I specified is a minor one, but it's something I'm not crazy about. It's MY #1 problem. And so far, it's really the only thing I dislike about the phone.

    You don't care about it? Fine. Find another thread to involve yourself with. It's obviously not just an issue with me. Further searching would point out that others have mentioned it. And there is even rumors of Apple hiring a guy specifically experienced with engineering alert systems.

    The scenarios I laid out were purposely a little far fetched, to add a little humor into my post. And I said so in the post. You disagree fine. Say so. Or skip the thread. But don't be so insecure that you feel the need to tell me my problem isn't worthy of discussion, or that I'm a **** for merely mentioning it. I didn't rant, I didn't say the phone was garbage that I wanted to return it. I like the phone and the only issue I have with it is a minor one. I'm just sorry I thought this was the place to discuss it.
    Now look at your first post. Did you say: "This is just something minor, but I wish they would have looked into it", or did you say:

    It is a HUGE oversight IMO that Apple hasn't addressed this and allowed you to turn it off.
    And then after that you were making a jab about my unboxing video. If you didn't do that, THAT is one way you could not be a ****...
    02-11-2011 08:00 PM
  5. nitsuj's Avatar
    I said huge oversight, "In My Opinion". Last I checked, I'm entitled to my opinion. The problem is minor. The fact that it's remained this long is the huge oversight.

    And I didn't jab at your unboxing video. There's that insecurity I was talking about. I didn't even know you made one. (Until now. I checked it out. Riveting. 15 minutes of removing a phone from a box. You should be in Hollywood. I almost made it through 2 minutes.) I was jabbing at them in general. There are hundreds of videos on Youtube of people removing a phone from a box. I was just using that as an example of the other more useful subjects we could be talking about. It was sarcasm. Humor. Not aimed at you. (I actually did take a jab at you in this post. But I decided not to go to your level, so I deleted it.)

    I get it. You need to be the big man around here. You've made 600ish posts since last month. You need us all to know what kind of watch you wear and what kind of knife you used to open the box. It's cool man. You can be the big dog here, I just wanted some info about my new phone. I'm not a threat to your reign. Once I get the phone figured out, it will stay in my pocket and do it's thing and I won't need to bother people with questions about it.

    You win. I'm gone. There are lots of other iPhone resources out there. I'll seek answers there if I need any.

    Before I go, let me point out, several other folks have mentioned this problem. There are rumors that Apple is addressing the problem. It's not some non-issue that I chose to pick a fight about. It's a real issue that others seem to also want resolved. I made the mistake of choosing this forum to discuss it. And for that, I was called names and had my character questioned. I'm sorry if I was a ****.
    02-11-2011 08:32 PM
  6. Darth-gamer's Avatar
    I said huge oversight, "In My Opinion". Last I checked, I'm entitled to my opinion. The problem is minor. The fact that it's remained this long is the huge oversight.

    And I didn't jab at your unboxing video. There's that insecurity I was talking about. I didn't even know you made one. (Until now. I checked it out. Riveting. 15 minutes of removing a phone from a box. You should be in Hollywood. I almost made it through 2 minutes.) I was jabbing at them in general. There are hundreds of videos on Youtube of people removing a phone from a box. I was just using that as an example of the other more useful subjects we could be talking about. It was sarcasm. Humor. Not aimed at you. (I actually did take a jab at you in this post. But I decided not to go to your level, so I deleted it.)

    I get it. You need to be the big man around here. You've made 600ish posts since last month. You need us all to know what kind of watch you wear and what kind of knife you used to open the box. It's cool man. You can be the big dog here, I just wanted some info about my new phone. I'm not a threat to your reign. Once I get the phone figured out, it will stay in my pocket and do it's thing and I won't need to bother people with questions about it.

    You win. I'm gone. There are lots of other iPhone resources out there. I'll seek answers there if I need any.

    Before I go, let me point out, several other folks have mentioned this problem. There are rumors that Apple is addressing the problem. It's not some non-issue that I chose to pick a fight about. It's a real issue that others seem to also want resolved. I made the mistake of choosing this forum to discuss it. And for that, I was called names and had my character questioned. I'm sorry if I was a ****.
    Good. I'm sure people will greatly miss your attitude.
    02-11-2011 08:37 PM
  7. Sosai X's Avatar
    Ok now that THAT is over....

    The fact remains that the native SMS notifications ARE woefully inadequate to anyone coming from a Blackberry or Android product, which are far more customizable and much less obtrusive than that of the iPhone. I'm hopeful that Apple will address this oversight in future products.

    Having said that, the iPhone is far more fluid than anything else. I just wish Apple would find a way to integrate some of the little things that mean a lot to many users, like more customization and options.
    02-11-2011 10:20 PM
  8. Darth-gamer's Avatar
    Ok now that THAT is over....

    The fact remains that the native SMS notifications ARE woefully inadequate to anyone coming from a Blackberry or Android product, which are far more customizable and much less obtrusive than that of the iPhone. I'm hopeful that Apple will address this oversight in future products.

    Having said that, the iPhone is far more fluid than anything else. I just wish Apple would find a way to integrate some of the little things that mean a lot to many users, like more customization and options.
    One thing I would like to see is some sort of LED like I hear that either the Blackberry or Droid has. That would be great.
    02-11-2011 10:31 PM
  9. chrstdvd's Avatar
    Ah, this is tame compared to the posts on Crackberry. Never, never, never ever say something negative over there.
    02-12-2011 04:30 AM
  10. MECM's Avatar
    All fights aside, I agree. I'm sure it's something that could be an easy fix so I'm bummed I don't have the option. I love my iPhone so dont tell me to give it back...but a blinking LED and BBM would be nice too!
    02-12-2011 08:05 AM
  11. DX9's Avatar
    Honestly, jailbreak, get Bitesms and then the problem is solved. Bitesms alone makes it worth jailbreaking.
    02-12-2011 08:19 AM
  12. MECM's Avatar
    What if you have had a blackberry fir the last 5 years and know absolutely nothing about jailbreaking? And please...no links to forums where everyone discusses the wonders of doing it but not how. :o)
    02-12-2011 08:45 AM
  13. Alli's Avatar
    No need for a link to another forum. There's plenty of instruction on jailbreaking right here on TiPb including step by step tutorials. Hop over to the jailbreak forum. Read the sticky threads first - that's why they're sticky. Then read the threads extolling the benefits of jailbreaking.

    As Matrix said, I jailbreak mostly to use BiteSMS. I also use LockInfo, and that's my jailbreak world - takes care of my notifications. But seriously, hop over there and you'll be glad you did.
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    02-12-2011 08:52 AM
  14. MECM's Avatar
    Hahahha I read a couple of sticky threads...is there any way I can get you to just come here and jailbreak it for me?
    02-12-2011 10:06 AM
  15. Pimp Lucious's Avatar
    I said huge oversight, "In My Opinion". Last I checked, I'm entitled to my opinion. The problem is minor. The fact that it's remained this long is the huge oversight.

    And I didn't jab at your unboxing video. There's that insecurity I was talking about. I didn't even know you made one. (Until now. I checked it out. Riveting. 15 minutes of removing a phone from a box. You should be in Hollywood. I almost made it through 2 minutes.) I was jabbing at them in general. There are hundreds of videos on Youtube of people removing a phone from a box. I was just using that as an example of the other more useful subjects we could be talking about. It was sarcasm. Humor. Not aimed at you. (I actually did take a jab at you in this post. But I decided not to go to your level, so I deleted it.)

    I get it. You need to be the big man around here. You've made 600ish posts since last month. You need us all to know what kind of watch you wear and what kind of knife you used to open the box. It's cool man. You can be the big dog here, I just wanted some info about my new phone. I'm not a threat to your reign. Once I get the phone figured out, it will stay in my pocket and do it's thing and I won't need to bother people with questions about it.

    You win. I'm gone. There are lots of other iPhone resources out there. I'll seek answers there if I need any.

    Before I go, let me point out, several other folks have mentioned this problem. There are rumors that Apple is addressing the problem. It's not some non-issue that I chose to pick a fight about. It's a real issue that others seem to also want resolved. I made the mistake of choosing this forum to discuss it. And for that, I was called names and had my character questioned. I'm sorry if I was a ****.
    Wow, don't let some forum member with their panties in a bunch run you off. Nothing in your postings was anything for anyone to get upset over and you most certainly weren't the one being a **** in this thread.
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    02-12-2011 11:41 AM
  16. dcsr23#IM's Avatar
    Wow, don't let some forum member with their panties in a bunch run you off. Nothing in your postings was anything for anyone to get upset over and you most certainly weren't the one being a **** in this thread.
    I totally agree. Darth-Gamer seems to be the ****** here... Sorry but you were totally in the wrong to slander the guy because he didn't like a feature. I also do not like this about the device, there should be no reason that a text should show up on the screen in a locked/unlocked state to let someone know that I got a message or read the message. It's called privacy and when someone is checking out your device (as some of my friends have) there should be no reason they have to see any messages that pop up.

    With that being said, I learned how to turn that feature off, and looks like I'll jailbreak and get the bitesms.
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    02-12-2011 01:31 PM
  17. nitsuj's Avatar
    Wow, don't let some forum member with their panties in a bunch run you off. Nothing in your postings was anything for anyone to get upset over and you most certainly weren't the one being a **** in this thread.
    Thanks, I appreciate you saying so. I decided not to let an insecure nerd dictate where I get my information so I'll be sticking around. There are some people here with valuable information so I'll stick around for the info and post questions when I need to. I at least got some insight as to which people offer good advice and who posts just to hear their own voice, so to speak. I may jailbreak and use bitesms, that's good advice.

    I came from the Droid, and still have a Blackberry (yuck) as my work phone, so the whole notification thing seemed like a no brainer to me. On both of those, and on every dumb phone I've ever owned, when you get a text, it makes it's noise, and it shows you a text icon. It doesn't just splash your message up on the screen, or give you a pop up telling you that you have a message. So having not owned an iPhone before, the notification system they used seemed alien to me. After the dust cleared in this thread, I did learn a few things that helped though. Turning off the text preview is close to a 100% solution. That would take care of sensitive information being shown to the whole world. Jailbreak and bite would solve the whole problem. I'm still weighing that as an option.

    Thanks to those of you with valid advice and input.
    02-12-2011 01:36 PM
  18. ChrisGonzales90's Avatar
    The main issue is how notifications are handled on iOS. Apple seems to be wanting to change them and thats good. Because bow friendly is a purple popup?
    02-12-2011 01:39 PM
  19. Darth-gamer's Avatar
    Thanks, I appreciate you saying so. I decided not to let an insecure nerd dictate where I get my information so I'll be sticking around. There are some people here with valuable information so I'll stick around for the info and post questions when I need to. I at least got some insight as to which people offer good advice and who posts just to hear their own voice, so to speak. I may jailbreak and use bitesms, that's good advice.

    I came from the Droid, and still have a Blackberry (yuck) as my work phone, so the whole notification thing seemed like a no brainer to me. On both of those, and on every dumb phone I've ever owned, when you get a text, it makes it's noise, and it shows you a text icon. It doesn't just splash your message up on the screen, or give you a pop up telling you that you have a message. So having not owned an iPhone before, the notification system they used seemed alien to me. After the dust cleared in this thread, I did learn a few things that helped though. Turning off the text preview is close to a 100% solution. That would take care of sensitive information being shown to the whole world. Jailbreak and bite would solve the whole problem. I'm still weighing that as an option.

    Thanks to those of you with valid advice and input.
    Wow dude, you are a piece of work. Oh yeah man, I'm so insecure that some folks on the Interwebs will not like me. Oh no, will they post nasty comments? *gasp* Will they send me bad PMs *shudder* :'(

    Darth-Gamer seems to be the ****** here... Sorry but you were totally in the wrong to slander the guy because he didn't like a feature.
    Now before you get ahead of yourself on the the wrong track, take a moment to look back. Did I slander him because he didn't like a feature:

    I'm sorry, but those things you listed are a bit absurd. I can come up with a bunch of far fetched scenarios too about any phone. Say I place a Droid X next to a vial of Nitroglycerin that reacts to light and the mail notification LED comes on! Boom! We all die! I honestly think people are trying to find reasons to dislike this phone, and nitpicking.
    Oh, LOOK how bad I cut him down! I totally wasn't just mentioning that his reasoning was absurd, but no, he decides to turn around an and be an *** and say:

    It seems to me that if you say ANYTHING negative about the iPhone, some folks are just going to resist it. Yes, my scenarios are far fetched. I think at the end of my post, I even said they were far fetched. The point isn't that I thought the scenarios could or would happen. The point was, that was something *I* don't like about the iPhone. Not that I hate the iPhone or want to return it. We're on a forum about the iPhone where people come to share ideas and input. I'm not trying to find reasons to dislike the phone. I like the phone, look at some of my other posts. I think I actually say the words "I like the phone" in several of them.

    Nitpicking? Maybe. But no more so than the rest of the forum nitpicks over what case is the best, or to jailbreak or not to, or which wallpaper looks coolest. I thought this community was about discussing the iPhone and exchanging ideas in hope of constantly improving the experience. Turns out I was wrong. I guess I should only post to say "OMG!!!1 The iPhone is is best thing to ever happen in my life. Evar!!1

    I posted one minor thing I dislike about the phone. Not that the phone sucks and I'll be returning it. I guess I shouldn't have posted something so negative and meaningless. I'll stop now so everyone can get back to something important like the one millionth "uboxing" video.
    And after that he is wondering why he is getting these responses!

    Now, to solve this problem we could simply move on and be done with it, or I suppose you could continue to say that I am insecure and nerdy when quite frankly, YOU are the one that keeps trying to cut people down an an Internet forum.
    02-12-2011 01:58 PM
  20. nitsuj's Avatar
    Wow dude, you are a piece of work. Oh yeah man, I'm so insecure that some folks on the Interwebs will not like me. Oh no, will they post nasty comments? *gasp* Will they send me bad PMs *shudder* :'(
    Yes, you are. That much is pretty obvious, seriously. I'm not saying it to insult you or make you more angry. You come off as very insecure. It's why you need to have the brand of watch you wear in your avatar. Why your unboxing video starts with a nice long close up of your awesome watch. It's why you needed to show how cool your knife flips open in your video and why you made a point of mentioning what brand it is, in a video about a phone. Not enough proof? Go look at the titles of threads you've started on this forum. Or the fact that you have 600ish posts in a forum you've belonged to for over a month about a product you've actually had for less than a week. Not trying to insult you. But you're an insecure dude. That's just how it is. You can keep up this back and fourth or you can examine that and wonder why.

    And for the record, since he hinted at it, let me just be clear, I have not sent this guy any PM's, nasty or otherwise.


    Now before you get ahead of yourself on the the wrong track, take a moment to look back. Did I slander him because he didn't like a feature:
    Yes, you did. You said it was a non-issue, far fetched, and that I was just looking for a reason to return my phone.


    Oh, LOOK how bad I cut him down! I totally wasn't just mentioning that his reasoning was absurd, but no, he decides to turn around an and be an *** and say:
    I wasn't an ***. I responded to what you said, and reaffirmed my reasoning for not liking the feature. It's right there in my post that you quoted. Just a response from me, no attack.

    And after that he is wondering why he is getting these responses!
    You seem pretty good at going back and re-reading the thread and quoting it. Have you not noticed who stooped to name calling? And when? I made another attempt at humor by poking fun at unboxing videos, and you got all insecure again and called me a ****. Which I'm pretty sure is against forum rules no?

    Now, to solve this problem we could simply move on and be done with it,
    We had moved on and were back on the original topic until you came back and started requoting everything. I invite you to start at the beginning and go back through the thread. I posted a problem, tried to do it in a light, humorous way. Rather than address the problem, you and your ilk focused on the humor and were only concerned about why it was a problem for me, or how I do my job. But, I simply responded with my reasoning. YOU escalated the thread by calling me a ****, for no real good reason. I didn't jab at your video. And I certainly didn't call you any names.

    or I suppose you could continue to say that I am insecure and nerdy when quite frankly, YOU are the one that keeps trying to cut people down an an Internet forum.
    I'm not trying to cut anyone down. I'm responding to attacks on my character made because I don't like the text alert function of a phone. YOU are the one who decided to bring this to name calling. I had an issue, I discussed my issue. In repeated attempts by a few member to minimize my issue, I simply restated my issue. YOU then called me a name. I don't know how people in your real life react to that, but where I'm from you don't just walk up to strangers and call them names because you disagree with them about their cell phones text notification system. I'm not sure how you expected me to react to being called a ****. Re-read the thread dude. You brought this to insults. Not me.
    02-12-2011 03:05 PM
  21. Darth-gamer's Avatar
    Yes, you are. That much is pretty obvious, seriously. I'm not saying it to insult you or make you more angry. You come off as very insecure. It's why you need to have the brand of watch you wear in your avatar. Why your unboxing video starts with a nice long close up of your awesome watch. It's why you needed to show how cool your knife flips open in your video and why you made a point of mentioning what brand it is, in a video about a phone. Not enough proof? Go look at the titles of threads you've started on this forum. Or the fact that you have 600ish posts in a forum you've belonged to for over a month about a product you've actually had for less than a week. Not trying to insult you. But you're an insecure dude. That's just how it is. You can keep up this back and fourth or you can examine that and wonder why.

    And for the record, since he hinted at it, let me just be clear, I have not sent this guy any PM's, nasty or otherwise.




    Yes, you did. You said it was a non-issue, far fetched, and that I was just looking for a reason to return my phone.




    I wasn't an ***. I responded to what you said, and reaffirmed my reasoning for not liking the feature. It's right there in my post that you quoted. Just a response from me, no attack.



    You seem pretty good at going back and re-reading the thread and quoting it. Have you not noticed who stooped to name calling? And when? I made another attempt at humor by poking fun at unboxing videos, and you got all insecure again and called me a ****. Which I'm pretty sure is against forum rules no?



    We had moved on and were back on the original topic until you came back and started requoting everything. I invite you to start at the beginning and go back through the thread. I posted a problem, tried to do it in a light, humorous way. Rather than address the problem, you and your ilk focused on the humor and were only concerned about why it was a problem for me, or how I do my job. But, I simply responded with my reasoning. YOU escalated the thread by calling me a ****, for no real good reason. I didn't jab at your video. And I certainly didn't call you any names.



    I'm not trying to cut anyone down. I'm responding to attacks on my character made because I don't like the text alert function of a phone. YOU are the one who decided to bring this to name calling. I had an issue, I discussed my issue. In repeated attempts by a few member to minimize my issue, I simply restated my issue. YOU then called me a name. I don't know how people in your real life react to that, but where I'm from you don't just walk up to strangers and call them names because you disagree with them about their cell phones text notification system. I'm not sure how you expected me to react to being called a ****. Re-read the thread dude. You brought this to insults. Not me.
    You must be confusing "insecurity" with "hobbies". My Youtube channel is about my hobbies, be it Zippos, watches, knives, guns, etc. I suppose I am insecure about all of them right? Get real man. Sorry, but I don't need to impress Internet folks.

    And is is obvious that you were the one that started this whole conundrum, because after I said that people were nitpicking, you said "OH GOD FORBID ANYONE SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE PRECIOUS IPHONE!"

    So instead of worrying about my 600 posts (which is actually not that much considering the pre-ordering hype), your visions of how secure I am, or your obvious ESP because you clearly know me and my life, why don't we do the adult thing and talk about the MINOR (not a major oversight) issue of text message notifications. Here, I'll start:

    I would like, in the iPhone 5, if there was a tiny LED that alerted you of new messages like some other smartphones.
    02-12-2011 03:54 PM
  22. Jeremy's Avatar
    Ok guys, enough.
    02-12-2011 04:00 PM
  23. E_Brown's Avatar
    I totally agree. Darth-Gamer seems to be the ****** here... Sorry but you were totally in the wrong to slander the guy because he didn't like a feature. I also do not like this about the device, there should be no reason that a text should show up on the screen in a locked/unlocked state to let someone know that I got a message or read the message. It's called privacy and when someone is checking out your device (as some of my friends have) there should be no reason they have to see any messages that pop up.

    With that being said, I learned how to turn that feature off, and looks like I'll jailbreak and get the bitesms.
    Bitesms is great! You will love it, well atleast I do.
    02-13-2011 10:42 AM
  24. shipwrestler125's Avatar
    Can't we all just get along? lol
    02-13-2011 11:34 AM
  25. nitsuj's Avatar
    bitesms is pretty cool. Seems to do exactly what I want. Thanks for all who provided input.
    02-13-2011 08:27 PM
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