1. gatorfan79's Avatar
    There are some people who refuse to be under a contract - and full retail gives them that
    But the early termination fee isn't more than $350, and by getting a contract you'd SAVE $450. Wouldn't it still be cheaper to do a 2-year contract and then pay an early term fee?
    02-01-2011 12:27 PM
  2. DougFNJ's Avatar
    While I inherently agree with you? I have emailed about this, called, and been told every time that yes, Full retail can pre-order. Then, when someone else gets the opposite information, it is my nature to be prepared and confirm. Could I sit back and relax and wait until Thursday morning? Sure. And if it was at 7 AM Eastern, or 10 AM Eastern, no big deal. The problem is, it is at 3 AM Eastern. I would rather know, as I am sure that many others in the same boat would, if we should be waiting up or not. Even if it was midnight Eastern, there wouldn't be the same sense of urgency. The fact that it is 3 AM I think is leading to the urgency.
    I am in 100% agreement here, and as I stated in a few posts yesterday. Don't invite me to the party if you are only going to close the door in my face.

    You can't as a customer service business generically state "All customers" not add any exclusions, set a very odd time for ordering at 3AM, have those customers you sent the invitation to arrive on time, and then let a portion of them know when all was said and done they are not eligible, sorry, the invitation wasn't meant for you

    In regards to the the same questions being answered in such various opposite ways, are these reps just not paying attention in these meetings? Do they not have this written ANYWHERE? I am curious if the powers that be at Verizon pay attenton to any of this, or know it's going on? I definitely don't believe it is intentional, I think it is just ignorance from the top to the bottom, and a concerning lack of paying attention to detail
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    02-01-2011 12:31 PM
  3. ericsmcdonald's Avatar
    I am in 100% agreement here, and as I stated in a few posts yesterday. Don't invite me to the party if you are only going to close the door in my face.

    You can't as a customer service business generically state "All customers" not add any exclusions, set a very odd time for ordering at 3AM, have those customers you sent the invitation to arrive on time, and then let a portion of them know when all was said and done they are not eligible, sorry, the invitation wasn't meant for you
    Agreed 100%. Couldn't have said it better myself!
    02-01-2011 12:36 PM
  4. ericsmcdonald's Avatar
    But the early termination fee isn't more than $350, and by getting a contract you'd SAVE $450. Wouldn't it still be cheaper to do a 2-year contract and then pay an early term fee?
    Some people just don't like contracts. I'm on your page, I don't know why you wouldn't just agree to a contract. However, people who don't like contracts would say 'I don't know why you would ever agree to a contract!'

    As they say, to each his own.

    But the merits of a contract aren't the source of confusion. The million dollar question is whether you need a line that's eligible for an upgrade to pre-order, whether you pay contract pricing or FRP.
    02-01-2011 12:39 PM
  5. iSRS's Avatar
    Agreed 100%. Couldn't have said it better myself!
    ditto
    02-01-2011 12:48 PM
  6. coltsbr's Avatar
    confirmations, affirmations, and anticipations
    Oh yea, good point
    02-01-2011 12:51 PM
  7. iSRS's Avatar
    But the merits of a contract aren't the source of confusion. The million dollar question is whether you need a line that's eligible for an upgrade to pre-order, whether you pay contract pricing or FRP.
    Adding more confusion - for those that are not currently eligible for promotional/discounted pricing - Log in to myVerizon now. It will say "You are eligible for an Upgrade on mm/dd/yyyy"

    Right above that?

    A button that says "Upgrade Now"

    Click that button and it brings you to a page to select your line to Upgrade, and says "Upgrade at Full Price"

    From there, it brings you to your phone selection, showing Month to Month (Full Retail) pricing.

    So, technically, by VZW terms, we are ALL upgrading.
    02-01-2011 12:54 PM
  8. ericsmcdonald's Avatar
    From there, it brings you to your phone selection, showing Month to Month (Full Retail) pricing.

    So, technically, by VZW terms, we are ALL upgrading.
    For everyone's sake, I hope this is correct. However, all the wording and clarifications and stipulations make me nervous.
    02-01-2011 01:17 PM
  9. shinbone's Avatar
    . . . . . . .I've never been so antsy and eager to spend $1,500.00 bucks! (buying 2 at full price - wife and I)
    02-01-2011 01:21 PM
  10. coltsbr's Avatar
    . . . . . . .I've never been so antsy and eager to spend $1,500.00 bucks! (buying 2 at full price - wife and I)
    Same here! got the money burning a hole in my pocket!
    02-01-2011 01:26 PM
  11. shinbone's Avatar
    Same here! got the money burning a hole in my pocket!
    Funny . . . I feel so good on TiPb, knowing theres others as crazy as me . . lol
    02-01-2011 01:28 PM
  12. coltsbr's Avatar
    Funny . . . I feel so good on TiPb, knowing theres others as crazy as me . . lol
    Oh there are pleanty of us on here! One big happy crazy family.......
    02-01-2011 01:42 PM
  13. iSRS's Avatar
    . . . . . . .I've never been so antsy and eager to spend $1,500.00 bucks! (buying 2 at full price - wife and I)
    Same here! got the money burning a hole in my pocket!
    I literally have my existing phone burning a hole in my pocket (Palm Pre Plus - The thing gets so hot just USING it!

    Funny . . . I feel so good on TiPb, knowing theres others as crazy as me . . lol
    Crazy / OCD - Call it what you will. I embrace it all!
    02-01-2011 01:43 PM
  14. jeff1974w's Avatar
    No one is going to to know the answer to this question for sure till Feb 3rd @ 3am est. It's sad to say but that seems to be what's going to happen. I'm still standing by what my friend told me in her training yesterday of we will be able to pre order at full retail. It makes no sence in the world for Big Red to turn many many many order's of six and seven hundred dollars away at first to only take orders from a few customers.
    i too called yesterday about being able to pre-order at full retail and was told that i could.
    02-01-2011 01:48 PM
  15. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Well I got my 2 lines ready for upgrade today. Took back the free phones I got from VZW when I started service last week. Added my 2 old flip phones, got my upgrade date reset and I'm good to go. I really didn't want to deal with standing in line on the 10th to start new service. So now I'm good and ready to order. Only downside is I know have to use this crappy flip for a little over a week. Man I remember the days when having a flip phone was something everyone wanted. Couldn't wait for the next best one. Now with this little behind screen and crappy Internet (not sure you can even call it Internet) it's just brutal. A small price to pay to not have to spend my entire morning waiting in line.
    02-01-2011 01:57 PM
  16. ericsmcdonald's Avatar
    Man I remember the days when having a flip phone was something everyone wanted. Couldn't wait for the next best one.
    I remember getting my first RazR and telling my friends how it could do EVERYTHING! Who knew just a few years later how much things would change!
    02-01-2011 02:02 PM
  17. kch50428's Avatar
    I still have my first Motorola Brick/bag phone around here somewhere
    02-01-2011 02:04 PM
  18. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    I remember getting my first RazR and telling my friends how it could do EVERYTHING! Who knew just a few years later how much things would change!
    Exactly. I remember I got the Razr not too long after it hit VZW. I didn't have it for long though. I then became intrigued with the smartphones at that time i.e blackberries and treos. But I remember just having a flip phone that had the caller ID and time on the outside was a big deal. Remember we everyone wanted a camera phone

    Now we complain if it doesn't record in HD.
    02-01-2011 02:09 PM
  19. coltsbr's Avatar
    I still have my first Motorola Brick/bag phone around here somewhere
    LOL, I still have my bag phone also. I have kept all of my phones going back to when Verizon was called "Airtouch"

    I could not wait to get that Moto Razr when it came out.
    02-01-2011 02:13 PM
  20. ericsmcdonald's Avatar
    I still have my first Motorola Brick/bag phone around here somewhere
    LOL!

    The oldest phone I have is an Analog StarTAC, before the screen changed to a green background! That was a cool (and expensive) phone too!
    02-01-2011 02:20 PM
  21. Darth-gamer's Avatar
    Shipments for orders placed on February 3, 2011 will begin on February 10, 2011, however; depending on the amount of orders received, the actual shipment date could be later.
    I'm sorry, WHAT!?
    02-01-2011 03:12 PM
  22. cevmkv's Avatar
    LOL!

    The oldest phone I have is an Analog StarTAC, before the screen changed to a green background! That was a cool (and expensive) phone too!
    so thinking back...i have had 39 mobile phone in the past 12 years. i got my first one when i was 20 and have had one ever since...i wish i could remember all the models or i would name them...if anyone knows of a cell phone type archive id be willing to try....i can picture everyone, just not name them cause i dont know the models...

    i just realized...the verizon iphone 4 will be my 40th...sounds like a nice number!
    02-01-2011 03:26 PM
  23. kch50428's Avatar

    Originally Posted by VZW
    Shipments for orders placed on February 3, 2011 will begin on February 10, 2011, however; depending on the amount of orders received, the actual shipment date could be later.

    I'm sorry, WHAT!?
    Once all the inventory of pre-order devices is spoken for, then they start waiting list, and when stock is in warehouse again, the waiting list orders are filled first come, first served.... that's what they did with Droids.

    Edit to add... the Feb 10th date is the target date to have pre orders delivered, not when they start
    Last edited by kch50428; 02-01-2011 at 03:35 PM.
    02-01-2011 03:31 PM
  24. JakePleasants's Avatar
    Geez, I go for a surgery consultation for a couple hours and you guys rack up five pages in a new thread! I think we're getting crazier as the date nears us. I still can't decide if I should add that extra line because I'll probably have to pay activation and everything, but I probably will just to be on the safe side.
    02-01-2011 03:31 PM
  25. Darth-gamer's Avatar
    Once all the inventory of pre-order devices is spoken for, then they start waiting list, and when stock is in warehouse again, the waiting list orders are filled first come, first served.... that's what they did with Droids.

    Edit to add... the Feb 10th date is the target date to have pre orders delivered, not when they start
    I wonder if they will come out and say "backordered" BEFORE I order. The reason being that if I don't get one that will be SHIPPED TO MY HOUSE BY (i.e. on or BEFORE) the 10th the I'm going to Camping World, buying some supplies and go camping in front of Verizon on the 10th.
    02-01-2011 03:48 PM
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