1. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    clearly indeed.
    12-14-2010 02:50 PM
  2. impaler's Avatar
    Glad you're back to the fray! I've dangled in Android many times, and every time, I keep coming back to iOS. I've had the Droid X and the EVO 4G, and although they have their pluses, they are almost too big for me. I think 3.5" is the right size for a phone screen...it seems to be the sweet spot for me. Still easy to hold in my hand, not too unwieldy, and it of course has the best OS on the market, iOS!
    12-14-2010 06:08 PM
  3. jiggaman2g's Avatar
    Having the same problem on my end here, well not with the Evo but with the BB Torch.

    I picked one up a couple days ago and boy did I really miss the bbm and the email reliability. I put the iPhone 4 up for sale twice and chickened out twice. A pretty good response out there buyer wise but I have it hooked up on my wifi so I can still accsess all my apps and even emails are still coming thru on it.

    I just can't let it go though it's far too sweet of a phone and I waited way too long to get it. Now if there's only a way that I can find out how to be able to switch my sims on days that I want to run out with my ip4.... Hmmm
    12-14-2010 08:15 PM
  4. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Having the same problem on my end here, well not with the Evo but with the BB Torch.

    I picked one up a couple days ago and boy did I really miss the bbm and the email reliability. I put the iPhone 4 up for sale twice and chickened out twice. A pretty good response out there buyer wise but I have it hooked up on my wifi so I can still accsess all my apps and even emails are still coming thru on it.

    I just can't let it go though it's far too sweet of a phone and I waited way too long to get it. Now if there's only a way that I can find out how to be able to switch my sims on days that I want to run out with my ip4.... Hmmm
    Just unlock the APN.

    From your iPhone, just go to "http://www.unlockit.co.nz/unlockit/" and then click Continue. At this point, choose Custom APN and scroll down to "carrier". Choose "US - AT&T" and then click create profile. On the next screen, click 'Install" and you'll be all set after that. Now you can use the data with a BB
    plan on the iPhone if you're connected to 3G.

    When you go to the website the page should be rendered in an iPhone type
    format. If for some reason you're getting the full web page, then just Google
    "Unlock iPhone APN" from the browser and the iPhone rendered page you need
    will be one of the first in the search results. The whole process here takes no
    more than a minute.
    12-14-2010 08:32 PM
  5. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Because thats pretty much all there is.

    and I JB because I was curious, but it screwed up my iPad to the point where I had to do a full restore. I used jailbreakme.com

    Granted, I may JB again, I may not, but at the moment there is nothing that is worth JB for
    What?

    I have to ask...and yes, this is stirring the pot, but why are you even here? (IE: the iPhone portion of this site) You almost NEVER have any useful information or assistance to give anyone (given you don't own an iPhone, which is a whole other question in itself why you're posting in an iPhone forum). Are you really that bored with the other THOUSANDS of forums out there on the planet (not to mention the other half dozen sub forums on this site), about things you could possibly relate to or have useful tidbits of info to share?

    I'm sure you'll retort with some derogatory lashing about how its a free country and you can do what you want where you want and blah blah blah, but really...would it be too much to ask for you to go get an iPhone and have some semblance of logic as to your being here before you start spouting off this kind of absurd and asinine information (regarding the nature of JB's, amongst other things).
    Last edited by SeanHRCC; 12-16-2010 at 08:19 AM.
    12-16-2010 07:59 AM
  6. gom4381's Avatar
    I switched back to Tmobile when the Nexus S came out. Waste of time and money. Went back to ATT after 1 day. Paid the cancellation fee and now I am month to month. I can get the new iPhone when it comes out. That's the only silver lining in all of this. I could have went back and not paid the ETF but I was on a family plan. iOS > Android. That's my piece.
    12-17-2010 11:40 AM
  7. ghostface147's Avatar
    If the Nexus S came out and you went to T-Mobile, why did you pay a cancellation fee? It's been less 30 days.
    12-17-2010 11:57 AM
  8. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    I switched back to Tmobile when the Nexus S came out. Waste of time and money. Went back to ATT after 1 day. Paid the cancellation fee and now I am month to month. I can get the new iPhone when it comes out. That's the only silver lining in all of this. I could have went back and not paid the ETF but I was on a family plan. iOS > Android. That's my piece.
    Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Nexus S come out yesterday? So you are saying that you switched for a day and ended up paying the ETF? And switched back to AT&T Today?
    12-17-2010 12:58 PM
  9. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    You guys smell something?
    12-17-2010 01:18 PM
  10. TampaDude's Avatar
    You guys smell something?
    Bovine feces?
    12-17-2010 02:02 PM
  11. west3man's Avatar
    Because thats pretty much all there is.

    and I JB because I was curious, but it screwed up my iPad to the point where I had to do a full restore. I used jailbreakme.com

    Granted, I may JB again, I may not, but at the moment there is nothing that is worth JB for
    Like a lot of comments around here, this one doesn't acknowledge the subjectiveness of the topic.

    Factually, there IS more to jail breaking than the two things you describe. We could list them, but there's not much point. Additionally, saying there is nothing worth jail breaking for suggests that everyone has the same wants and needs, which is a shortsighted way of considering these things.

    I'm trying to be diplomatic here, because I am confident there's no malicious intent on your part. But, y'know, think it through a little more.
    12-17-2010 03:13 PM
  12. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    Clearly someone has multiple accounts.
    12-17-2010 03:32 PM
  13. west3man's Avatar
    Clearly someone has multiple accounts.
    *scratches head*
    ChrisGonzales90 likes this.
    12-17-2010 04:32 PM
  14. gom4381's Avatar
    Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Nexus S come out yesterday? So you are saying that you switched for a day and ended up paying the ETF? And switched back to AT&T Today?
    I did exactly that. I was on a family plan and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore. I ported to Tmobile when the Nexus S came out on Thursday and ported back this morning(Friday). Didn't like the Nexus and the iPhone is superior in every way. So the ETF was paid and now I am month-to-month. I could have went back but didn't want to be on a family plan. So no BS here.
    12-17-2010 07:36 PM
  15. ItnStln's Avatar
    ^^. Why'd you have to pay the ETF if you were within the first 30 days?
    12-17-2010 09:50 PM
  16. Cleveland's Avatar
    That's a good question... why did you have to pay an ETF ??
    12-17-2010 10:07 PM
  17. cardfan's Avatar
    He paid it to AT&T i guess. Not tmobile.

    He left AT&T (paid etf), then came back to at&t activating his old phone on a single account. Though he should check his upgrade status to be sure he's upgrade eligible (trust me..be sure). Type in *new# and press call.
    gom4381 likes this.
    12-17-2010 10:43 PM
  18. gom4381's Avatar
    Cardfan you have totally gotten everything I have tried to say. Thanks for the tip and I am eligible for the upgrade should I deem the next version of the iPhone worthy of my purchase. This is my first iPhone and I am thoroughly impressed with the customer service that helped me through TWO phone replacements and some more help after the 90 days was up. There is no other phone on the market right now that has the ease of use and hardware combination of the iPhone. Android 2.3 didn't last a day in comparison and the yellow screen hue on the Nexus S, the T-Mobile branded Android Market, shoddy camera, gps issues, app quality, ads in almost every program, and...etc. I could talk for a while about it but in short I am waiting on the next iPhone to come out-or until some 4' ips screens start appearing with ALL-DAY battery life then I might consider. Until then...Carry On!
    12-17-2010 10:57 PM
  19. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    @gom4381 I get what your saying, however it doesn't make sense. So for clarity, you are saying that you gave at&t a credit card number and they charged you your etf on thursday december 16th? You then activated a new T-Mobile account on the 16th? ... Then cancelled and returned the Nexus S on December 17th only to then sign up for a new at&t account on on December 17th? ... How much was your etf?
    12-18-2010 11:05 AM
  20. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    lol...no offense gom4381, but your story seems so farfetched its hard to believe...that's why we're curious. It seems like someone who would go and buy the Nexus S would have given the phone and AT&T more than a few seconds of use before jumping ship, going to T-mobile and using it for a half of a blink of an eye, and then going back to AT&T and paying more than the phone was in ETF charges to Tmobile, lol.

    Actually, im still calling BS...nobody is that stupid.
    12-18-2010 11:51 AM
  21. cardfan's Avatar
    Only if his goal was to leave the family account (he may not have owned that account) and stick them with an ETF. Once he came back to AT&T, he only had to activate his iphone on his own account.

    But yeah, a lot of trouble if all this was to try out a Nexus S.
    12-18-2010 11:54 AM
  22. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I'd agree but you're talking what is assumably hundreds of dollars and alot of time spent within a matter of less than 2 days. It's like wantung to swap a new motor in a car, but first, taking every body panel off, melting down the frame and chassis, remolding all of it, constructing new body panels from raw aluminum and other products, building an engine, putting it in...then driving it off a cliff and buying a new car at a dealership.

    I mean yeah, over dramatic...but in relation to what he did to get the iPhone...a good analogy.
    12-18-2010 11:59 AM
  23. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    I am calling BS as well and assume to be second account for ChrisGonzales.
    12-18-2010 12:37 PM
  24. gom4381's Avatar
    Wow! Not a second account. I had service with ATT for a few months already. I 'thought' I wanted an Android phone. I wanted to leave the family plan that I was on. Nexus S looked good because I had a Nexus One and it was stock Froyo. The screen was yellow and it looked funny after having the iPhone for a few months so it went back to the store. ETF was $285(ATT)- it goes down about ten dollars every month or something like that. There is no fee associated with retunring the Nexus S and ATT was more than happy to have me as a month-to-month customer. I appreciate the warm welcome from everyone. It was not an expensive mistake because I was going to get the new iPhone anyway. I'm Jason. Not chrisgonzales.
    12-20-2010 01:13 AM
  25. gom4381's Avatar
    If it wasn't any clearer I did not want to stay on the family plan. I was going to leave either way and this gave me the option get the new iPhone or switch carriers if another phone entices me. I already have the iPhone 4 32gb.
    12-20-2010 01:19 AM
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