[NVMY03ION]

The point was that there was no mention of an overhaul on the OS performance so i was simply asking you what you were expecting out of the update, your comment made it seem like you expected the world to change after the 4.2 update, but it was WIDELY discussed that the update was primarily for the iPad, NOT the iPhone, but they included a few little toys so that people would want to update, and cause chaos to the jailbreaking crews out there (though it really didnt).

So i was confused as to why someone would expect anything major for the iPhone out of this update, which is why i asked you initially. At that point you decided to point out this was a forum for discussion, and since you apparently had it all figured out, i thought id refer you to the jailbreak forum for further discussion on your (lol) detailed question "What does a jailbreak do exactly?"

Thanks for playing.

.. Maybe my statement was taken out of context. I didn't really expect the world from 4.2 update. I just wanted to see what bells and whistles I would see visually. You know they can put whatever they want on the site, but until you see it and play with it you don't get a true feel.

I guess thats why I was asking about Jailbreaking to see what people liked or disliked.

[anon(4698833)]

Which is why i pointed out that your question was not only a loaded question, but also, in the wrong forum for discussion (both because it floods this room with JB questions AND because your questions are better answered on the JB side of the fence).

I was also confused what performance issues you were point out with the iOS? You stated you have an iPhone 4, what issues are you having? Besides the proxy sensor thing people were complaining about, today alone after doing the update, ive noticed that problem less than i did before, so perhaps there was a fix in that. Otherwise, what needs to be updated on the OS?

[Alli]

On the main page of TiPb is a great 4.2 walkthrough complete with video. I'd start there.

In the jailbreak forum are tons of threads debating the pros and cons of jailbreaking, along with what - specifically - people like/dislike, and why they do it. Sean may have been a bit, um, brusque, in his response, but he was right, all the information you want is here on TiPb for the searching.

[anon(4698833)]

I tend to be brash...comes from being in the military and also being a cop. I'm extremely bored today on a patrol where im basically sitting in my car for 10 hours so perhaps you got a bit of that too.

[NVMY03ION]

I tend to be brash...comes from being in the military and also being a cop. I'm extremely bored today on a patrol where im basically sitting in my car for 10 hours so perhaps you got a bit of that too.

LMAO.. Dude go pull someone over and give them a ticket or something if it makes you feel better

[anon(4698833)]

Not a traffic cop or i might...lol.

[NVMY03ION]

Not a traffic cop or i might...lol.

LOL Hmm NM then I don't know how to suggest you getting even with someone

Also went over to the Jailbreak forum you guys recommended - the "Themes" seem pretty sweet.

[anon(4698833)]

^^^ Spamming the forum gets you very little credibility...

[chobbs1]

I'll keep my IP4 legit. Not really into costomizing da phone. Plus I'd rather not have to deal with the constant cat and mouse game you gotta play with apple to JB. There are other issues too such as battery life drain, apps crashing, and iOS freezing up. I just want a device that works without me having to bother or fiddle with it. So, for me, jailbreak is a bust.

[porksoda]

I'll keep my IP4 legit. Not really into costomizing da phone. Plus I'd rather not have to deal with the constant cat and mouse game you gotta play with apple to JB. There are other issues too such as battery life drain, apps crashing, and iOS freezing up. I just want a device that works without me having to bother or fiddle with it. So, for me, jailbreak is a bust.

as a new ip user this was exactly what i thought and from what i read kinda confirmed for me not to jb.

But i wanted to only change the sounds for new mail so i did JB and added sbsettings notifier app and a few other mods... i cannot live without a jb ip now. I have had zero issues with battery draining or apps crashing.

I had one issue with springboard and i found it was an app i was using removed it and i am good to go.

[anon(4698833)]

As it has been said several times, issues AFTER a jailbreak are 99.999999999% associated with app's downloaded after a JB, and not the JB itself.

[Ipheuria]

I started a thread in the JB section where alot of the Team Jailbreak peeps weighed in and defended their stance on JBing. You should read through and get some good insight.

[Batting1000]

I loved te way the iPhone was before but now I can tweak it to just how I like it. That's the beauty, you can do as much or as little as you want to it when jailbroken.

This is exactly it. You can do as much or as little as you want. There's a tweak for pretty much everything that's "wrong" with the iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad.

[anon(4698833)]

The funny part about most anti-JB proponents is how little they actually understand about JB'ing to begin with, for instance, the fact that after a jailbreak, outside of a cydia app on your phone, everything is almost identical to the way it was before JB'ing...lol. People tend to read too much into the negative of things and assume that is all a jailbreak does is mess everything up. You could literally jailbreak a phone and have the EXACT same phone as you did before, with ZERO changes if you wanted to...but because some dim wit somewhere downloaded illegal apps and bricked his iPhone, a big group has formed against jailbreaking.

[BLiNK]

Sean you are right and unfortunately not only is it like that in the JB world but life in general

we all do it to some degree. i try to not judge so quickly and investigate as much as possible but it doesn't help when there are idiots everywhere

[anon(4698833)]

Agreed...

This line of thinking is one of the only reasons the "negative light" was so strong on the iPhone 4 after release...people blindly listening to media hype without putting any effort into researching and understanding something for themselves...the world has become so lazy that people literally want their own thinking done for them.

[bee584]

My friend JB for 2 weeks then he goes back to the original.
There're so many nice apps, no need to JB, I guess. =)

[Mella]

Well, I think guys can read this 5 Reasons to Jailbreak Your iPhone - and 5 Reasons Not
5 Reasons to Jailbreak Your iPhone - and 5 Reasons Not - PCWorld

[BLiNK]

5 Reasons to Jailbreak Your iPhone - and 5 Reasons Not - PCWorld

Reasons Not to Jailbreak:

Bricking - As with any tampering of your iPhone, you run the risk of experiencing "bricking." Bricking renders your phone unusable and requires a complete wipe and restore to make it functional again. Not a big deal given the quick fix, but it does serve as a deterrent.

see there. they completely contradicted themselves... unless i do not know the true definition of "bricking"

[anon(4698833)]

The problem with the idea of "bricking" your phone is the fact that it does not in fact BRICK your phone (this was a term coined before when a phone was hacked up back in the day and it rendered it USELESS and could not be fixed...i think the first gen iPhones had this happen to them too, where even a restore wouldn't return functionality).

People loosely use the term now to describe a bad JB where they have to simply restore and try again...and it scares people off because it sounds like a permanent issue instead of such an easily fixed temporary problem.

[gbelford]

I had my phone vanilla for about 3 or 4 days after I bought it but then I just couldn't resist it anymore and just went with the jailbreak, haven't looked back once.

[Dr.Pontip]

jailbreak it, you will discover much interesting thing

[moneymike47]

I jailbroke my iPod Touch and it did some wacky things. i used Blackrain and i got some pretty cool apps. But whenever i opened cydia or those types of apps, it took a long time. Eventually my iPod got really really slow and idk why. Idk if it was from jailbreaking it, or because of this one specific app. (the app put lock codes on individual apps) so i think i may jailbreak it again and test it on my iTouch before i try it with my iPhone.

[nyc_rock]

If I couldn't jailbreak I would leave the iPhone.

[slalomskie]

I just jail broke for bite SMS and lockinfo and PDA net.