1. Idelgado782's Avatar
    I have a 3GS and haven't really noticed signal bar loss. I'll be upgrading tomorrow I'll keep an out for it. See what happens.
    06-23-2010 10:22 PM
  2. big9erfan's Avatar
    Playing with it some more, when I hold it in one hand with the bottom metal band resting on my palm cell service goes to **** as does wifi. I haven't been able to dup the cell service issue when holding it in landscape.

    The moment I take my palm off the bottom band the cell service starts to come back.

    Hopefully this is an os issue that can be addressed with an update.
    06-23-2010 10:27 PM
  3. OTACORB's Avatar
    I have a 3GS and haven't really noticed signal bar loss. I'll be upgrading tomorrow I'll keep an out for it. See what happens.
    Well if you are still on 3.13 you likely won't see this, since it appears to be happening with those that have iOS4 installed. It will be interested to hear back from you once you upgrade. If you have a case on it, take it off and just hold it in your hand and see if the signal drops off. There are several YouTube videos were folks are showing this to be the case.
    06-23-2010 10:34 PM
  4. MrFadedGlory#IM's Avatar
    Don't think it's the antenna...my 3gs does the same thing since installing ios4

    hopefully it is an OS problem so that it can be fixed
    06-23-2010 11:29 PM
  5. iVenom's Avatar
    I'm glad it doesn't affect everyone. Honestly I think if it was really wide spread there would be more people on here talking about it. Sucks it happened to you though. How is it doing besides the reception issue?
    phones not out yet just wait til its in everyones hands if its a big problem people will talk about it 11 hours til i have mine
    06-23-2010 11:33 PM
  6. stphnman20's Avatar
    http://forum.tipb.com/iphone-forum/1...sue-video.html

    It's not the antenna!! Its the software!
    06-23-2010 11:52 PM
  7. JohnH59's Avatar
    I've sat here and tried it 5 times and all five times the signal has dropped.

    I guess we may have found out the real reason the bumpers were designed???

    Edit: my 3GS was always in a case. So, I guess I never experienced the problem. After reading some other posts and watching the YouTube video, it definitely seems related to iOS4.
    Last edited by JohnH59; 06-23-2010 at 11:59 PM.
    06-23-2010 11:53 PM
  8. BuddhistGirafe's Avatar
    It is good to see this is merely an iOS 4 issue.
    06-24-2010 12:11 AM
  9. Hack-My-i's Avatar
    giz sucks balls lol

    this issue seems like its only happened to SOME iPhone 4's... mines and my friends are good
    06-24-2010 12:18 AM
  10. OTACORB's Avatar
    giz sucks balls lol

    this issue seems like its only happened to SOME iPhone 4's... mines and my friends are good
    We are going to find out tomorrow if it is just some, I have a feeling there is going to be a **** load of folks complaining about this before it is over. It seems like those that don't have this issue are the exception rather than the rule. We got 5 iPhone 4's at the office today, some ordered through AT&T, some through Apple, so it was different batches.. Everyone one of us can replicate this issue. That isn't scientific, but certainly is a good indicator this is likely pretty widespread in my opinion. Maybe not everyone, but quite a few are already reporting being impacted. Tomorrow we'll see!
    06-24-2010 12:35 AM
  11. Hack-My-i's Avatar
    my friends and i have no signal issues... this seems like some ppl are affected, not all
    06-24-2010 12:38 AM
  12. OTACORB's Avatar
    my friends and i have no signal issues... this seems like some ppl are affected, not all
    How close are you and your friend to a tower. When I was real close to a tower I couldn't replicate this, but after I got a ways away, I could. I truly hope you are right, but if this is a software issue it doesn't make sense that it would only be impacting some phones. Maybe that is true, but my experience with 5 iPhones 4's from different batches, not to mention 3 other friends having gotten them today and we can all replicate it. I don't know!
    06-24-2010 12:41 AM
  13. iregret's Avatar
    I tried to do this on my wife's iPhone 3GS repeatedly and no dice. She's running ios4. It seems fine.
    06-24-2010 12:49 AM
  14. diaz2010's Avatar
    I hope they fix this!
    06-24-2010 12:56 AM
  15. Chelle's Avatar
    It is definitely the software because I tried holding phone with and without the case and wouldn't you know, I have the same issue. I'm glad to see it's just the software rather than the phone. This is with my updated 3GS.
    06-24-2010 01:34 AM
  16. OTACORB's Avatar
    I hope they fix this!
    ..and pronto diaz!

    It is definitely the software because I tried holding phone with and without the case and wouldn't you know, I have the same issue. I'm glad to see it's just the software rather than the phone. This is with my updated 3GS.
    Thanks Chelle for your report!
    06-24-2010 01:38 AM
  17. rstark18's Avatar
    I replicated this exactly with my iOS4 3G that has NEVER been JB. It only happens in my right hand not my left. Very strange.
    BTW, case or no case does not matter as long as it's in my right hand.
    Maybe it's the new anti-porn feature from Steve (anyone get it?).
    06-24-2010 02:21 AM
  18. cmikhow#AC's Avatar
    It's impossible that a PHYSICAL issue with the phone is a software issue.

    I watched the video and there's too many sketchy things about it for me to believe that.

    Do you truly believe it's possible for humans to PROGRAM a cell phone to lose reception when someone holds the edges? Just think about what you are insinuating.
    06-24-2010 03:22 AM
  19. Hack-My-i's Avatar
    It's impossible that a PHYSICAL issue with the phone is a software issue.

    I watched the video and there's too many sketchy things about it for me to believe that.

    Do you truly believe it's possible for humans to PROGRAM a cell phone to lose reception when someone holds the edges? Just think about what you are insinuating.
    ^Hes right... Apple knows about this flaw and although im not having this issue, it still has me worried...its def not iOS4, it doesnt make sense, its the SS antenna frame around the i4, check it out: Let me google that for you

    There are sooo many blogs about this issue...i guess it depends highly on location as well..
    06-24-2010 03:41 AM
  20. cmikhow#AC's Avatar
    "Oh guys totally our bad, we accidently forgot to code the software so that it doesn't lose bars when you touch it"

    "we'll send a patch out right away to fix this, also to apologize for the inconvenience we'll patch an extra 8gigs hardrive space for you, our b"
    06-24-2010 03:46 AM
  21. OTACORB's Avatar
    It's impossible that a PHYSICAL issue with the phone is a software issue.

    I watched the video and there's too many sketchy things about it for me to believe that.

    Do you truly believe it's possible for humans to PROGRAM a cell phone to lose reception when someone holds the edges? Just think about what you are insinuating.
    I think it is very possible that there is a bug in their algorithm that they are using for reception. If this algorithm doesn't think the signal is sufficient due to the short being created by the metal conductor (aluminum antenna band) that it could cause the signal to totally drop out. This stuff is much more complicated than one might think.

    If it turns out to be hardware related, then I think Apple is likely going to be forced to do a recall because I don't think telling folks to buy a $29.99 bumper is going to cut it. That would be like putting a bandaid on a gunshot.

    I think in the coming days they are going to have to put out some sort of official statement on this issue. WE know they are aware of it, but to what extent this issue really is, no one seems to know. You have some saying they can't get their phones to do it. You have others saying they can replicated easily. This is now on the iPhone 3G, 3GS and iPhone 4 that I've seen reported. Why would the iPhone 3G and 3GS suddenly start having hardware failures because a new iOS was installed? I am just not ready to buy the hardware thing yet.
    06-24-2010 04:55 AM
  22. ghostface147's Avatar
    It has to be a software issue. Apple even said there's a signal accuracy bug they will fix soon. I don't think it's hardware because if I can touch a tv antenna and get better reception, why wouldn't that same concept apply to a phone?
    06-24-2010 05:38 AM
  23. nator76's Avatar
    checking in with my experience

    black 32gb iphone 4, 2 of them

    no signal drop issue on either phone when doing any of the combinations seen online. when covering the phone with both hand (just trying to smother it, essentially) the signal will drop 1 or 2 bars, but so did the rest of the phones ive ever owned.

    no screen issues either on the phones, just an fyi

    p.s. this thing is sick, unreal.
    06-24-2010 07:26 AM
  24. skew's Avatar
    Mine is bad too I can touch the seam on the left side and it goes from 2-3 bars to no service in about 10secs every time. I was wandering why I was dropping every call yesterday. Now I know because I hold it with my left hand.
    06-24-2010 08:27 AM
  25. imex99's Avatar
    will test when i get mine today
    06-24-2010 08:42 AM
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