1. Kannon#AC's Avatar
    I'm with you on this one.....It's BS.....
    BS? Really? So you think Apple should hinder forward progress just so your 2 year old phone won't be outdated? If you're upset about technology moving at too fast of a pace, then you have a long road of disappointments ahead.
    04-08-2010 04:06 PM
  2. lungho's Avatar
    BS? Really? So you think Apple should hinder forward progress just so your 2 year old phone won't be outdated? If you're upset about technology moving at too fast of a pace, then you have a long road of disappointments ahead.
    Amen! Seriously, if you people dislike the direction Apple is moving in, GET A DIFFERENT PHONE! But I suppose whining is easier than shopping for another phone.
    04-08-2010 04:19 PM
  3. cardfan's Avatar
    I'm not sure how people can stand using the original or 3G device. Too slow.
    04-08-2010 04:21 PM
  4. lungho's Avatar
    I'm not sure how people can stand using the original or 3G device. Too slow.
    You are so right. I want a new phone to replace my 3G but I can hold out a bit longer until a jailbreak is released for the upcoming iPhone.
    04-08-2010 04:25 PM
  5. mullrat's Avatar
    Great update. Not because of multitasking or iAd or anything that apple said today. But finally they are releasing the phone. It has been locked down for 3 years and they are releasing it to the devs. With this level of access notification systems themes and a variety of customization options are now within reach.

    For instance, it is nutty that the calendar was a private API. A tasks app can't access it and put entries in it. It requires you to exit the app and enter the info by either typing it in or pasting it in rather than just having root access to the calendar and have the app become part of the calendar. Sort of like how blackberry d oes it.

    So if you are in you tasks app and want to. Make a calendar entry all you have to do is hit a button on the app that says entry to calendar and it will automatically send the info to the cal applet. This thing is gonna be great.
    04-08-2010 05:01 PM
  6. mullrat's Avatar
    BS? Really? So you think Apple should hinder forward progress just so your 2 year old phone won't be outdated? If you're upset about technology moving at too fast of a pace, then you have a long road of disappointments ahead.
    Agree with you. Thos peopledont really understand the announcement. They basically open sourced the phone like android hAs done. Or as far as apple is willing to go with that

    They just see uh... Multitasking that's it? Most of the cool stuff that has been done on e iPhone in the last 2 years has been from third party apps. But third party devs have had very limited access to the internals of the phone. Their finally beginning to open up. Want better notifications? Someone other than apple can now finally come up with something pretty stellar. Because they have the root access that they need.
    04-08-2010 05:06 PM
  7. zeagus's Avatar
    To all the folks complaining about no multitasking on 3G, you know how Apple guards their "user experience" and you had to suspect they wouldn't allow it on a device with half the RAM of the current model, right? You are all eligible for upgrade if you have a 2G and a large percentage of 3G owners, too. If you want the new goods, go grab the new hot hardware in June and makes us 3GS users jealous! I think this was a fantastic update, only lacking the notification management I wanted. Many little things like proper calendar handling and universal inbox in addition to some nice biggies like multitasking/global save states. Well done!
    04-08-2010 05:12 PM
  8. rgar3388's Avatar
    Blown away for sure. those were only 7 tent poles remember that. 1500 new API's! cmon downers, you don't even know what you'll be getting. 100 new features that we don't know about yet. Plus anything else they'll announce at the release keynote. This was just a preview you fake iPhone owners. And as far as the 3G complainers, get a refurbished 3gs for $150 or wait for the new iPhone and watch the 3gs go even more down in price if it's money you're worried about.
    04-08-2010 05:14 PM
  9. AndrewEwing's Avatar
    I don't understand why we still do not get lockscreen info/widgets or any notification managment whatsoever
    04-08-2010 05:19 PM
  10. zeagus's Avatar
    One assumes because of the limited resources for engineering at Apple -- look at it this way, they managed to write/grant access to 1500 APIs create the 7 tentpole features and 100+ user facing features while creating the iPad, OS3.2, the next iPhone, the next iPod Touch, OSX 10.7, the next round of Macs/MacBooks and probably a lot of other things we don't know about. I thought 4.0 was an impressive achievement considering all the other things they are doing.
    04-08-2010 05:21 PM
  11. Earless Puppy's Avatar
    I thought for sure a better notifications system would be announced...
    04-08-2010 05:28 PM
  12. Libuff's Avatar
    they did...

    local notifications...

    as for "notifications", this was a developer PREVIEW. that is to say that apple did NOT lay out ALL the cards, they just previewed them.
    04-08-2010 05:31 PM
  13. engelke2010's Avatar
    I just got my 3G a couple of weeks ago, so I do have a couple of weeks to exchange it for a 3GS. Did I miss something or did they not announce when the 4G (or whatever it's gonna be called) would be released? If there was a date, or even a month, I wouldn't exchange now and just upgrade when I can on July 2nd. Of course, if I did exchange, I still can upgrade on July 2nd.
    04-08-2010 05:38 PM
  14. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    I just got my 3G a couple of weeks ago, so I do have a couple of weeks to exchange it for a 3GS. Did I miss something or did they not announce when the 4G (or whatever it's gonna be called) would be released? If there was a date, or even a month, I wouldn't exchange now and just upgrade when I can on July 2nd. Of course, if I did exchange, I still can upgrade on July 2nd.
    Apple won't announce the next iPhone until WWDC in June and it will likely be released in June or July. The chances of their NOT being a new iPhone is extremely slim. I would return the 3Gs and wait for the new iPhone.
    04-08-2010 05:42 PM
  15. engelke2010's Avatar
    Apple won't announce the next iPhone until WWDC in June and it will likely be released in June or July. The chances of their NOT being a new iPhone is extremely slim. I would return the 3Gs and wait for the new iPhone.
    Thanks! I will hold onto my 3G for now and wait until this summer. I'm still very green to the iPhone so I appreciate the help.
    04-08-2010 05:44 PM
  16. zeagus's Avatar
    If you hold onto the 3G then you can't get subsidized pricing on the new one...
    04-08-2010 05:45 PM
  17. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    Thanks! I will hold onto my 3G for now and wait until this summer. I'm still very green to the iPhone so I appreciate the help.
    I misread your situation. Did you just buy the 3G? If so, I'd return it and wait til the new iPhone comes out, otherwise, you will not qualify for subsidized prices to upgrade.
    04-08-2010 05:50 PM
  18. Earless Puppy's Avatar
    I mean more like a list so you can see prior ones, that was more for push notifications not going through a server...
    04-08-2010 05:50 PM
  19. whmurray's Avatar
    Awesome. I particularly like "folders," but multi-tasking is also nice. Most of the things that were on the list were announced. (Now people are whining because it did not look the way they had visualized. Tsk tsk.) I can hardly wait to see what the developers do with this.

    This year Christmas comes seven times. January iPad announce, iPad unboxing day, 4.0 announce, May when I get my iPad, July when we get 4.0 and the announcement of the new iPhone, Fall when we get 4.0 on the iPad, and December when Santa comes. Oh, I forgot the new iPhone delivery. There is always something to anticipate.

    It is a great time to be a "kid."
    04-08-2010 05:58 PM
  20. Clint1394's Avatar
    We are going to have to wait and see what the multi-tasking really will be able to offer
    04-08-2010 05:59 PM
  21. rgar3388's Avatar
    when will the video be posted?! I wanna see this thing in action.
    04-08-2010 06:04 PM
  22. whmurray's Avatar
    Geez, maybe a box of tissues should have been included with this thread.
    Alli says that I am negative. I have never heard such whining from-grown ups.
    04-08-2010 06:04 PM
  23. Readover's Avatar
    Obviously it is possible to close apps that's running in the background?
    check the video!
    iPhone OS 4 hands-on (updated with video!) -- Engadget

    But The Steve didn't actually say it wasn't possible right? Just that the user didn't have to worry about it..
    04-08-2010 06:09 PM
  24. whmurray's Avatar
    Buy Apple, sell AT&T.

    The subtext of this announcement is all about the improvement to Apple's business plan.
    04-08-2010 06:15 PM
  25. BuddhistGirafe's Avatar
    Wow.. I am running it now and let me tell you. It is really an improvement. Keep in mind it is beta and more is to come, but what I have seen so far is superb. Especially the ability to change the wallpaper... wooo.
    04-08-2010 06:16 PM
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