1. gravage's Avatar
    The iPhone is perfect. If you want an extra button for some extra dumb unnecessary reason, get another phone. You don't buy the iPhone to complain about what it doesn't have. Appreciate what it has and how much better it is now than any phone out there. You like the bb menu button? Buy a blackberry. Want a slide down keyboard? Buy the g1.
    Perfect? Right. You obviously haven't tried to access anything on the file system on your phone, tether it, or send multi-part MMS messages (sound + pictures) with it. Go ahead and say that you don't need any of that. It still proves the phone isn't perfect. Oh, and the camera is crap. Not only is the shudder speed super slow, it takes horrible pictures without perfect lighting.

    The iPhone is a nice device. It's great for entertainment. It doesn't do everything, though. It only does what Apple and AT&T want you to be able to do. I can tether just about any other phone without AT&T (or Apple's) consent, send multi-part MMS messages, and access any file on the phone or even add files to the phone. I'm currently using an android phone and it is much closer to being perfect than the iPhone is.

    But you go ahead and enjoy being tethered to iTunes and having limited access to simple functions on your phone. The iPhone is a perfect device for people who don't really know what a smartphone is.
    09-28-2009 06:01 PM
  2. DBlanco's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure your phone can't do half the things an iPhone can. I'm sure you can't record and edit the video right after then upload straight to YouTube. I'm pretty sure your phone doesn't have even half of the apps iPhone has. You know there are ways around apple and AT&T's limits. Little thing called jailbreak

    Perfect? Right. You obviously haven't tried to access anything on the file system on your phone, tether it, or send multi-part MMS messages (sound + pictures) with it. Go ahead and say that you don't need any of that. It still proves the phone isn't perfect. Oh, and the camera is crap. Not only is the shudder speed super slow, it takes horrible pictures without perfect lighting.

    The iPhone is a nice device. It's great for entertainment. It doesn't do everything, though. It only does what Apple and AT&T want you to be able to do. I can tether just about any other phone without AT&T (or Apple's) consent, send multi-part MMS messages, and access any file on the phone or even add files to the phone. I'm currently using an android phone and it is much closer to being perfect than the iPhone is.

    But you go ahead and enjoy being tethered to iTunes and having limited access to simple functions on your phone. The iPhone is a perfect device for people who don't really know what a smartphone is.
    Last edited by DBlanco; 09-28-2009 at 06:23 PM.
    09-28-2009 06:18 PM
  3. Indygangsta's Avatar
    Im glad the tech industry is not run by people like you, or there would be no innovation.

    The iPhone is good. Great? Not so much. I love it, but I am capable enough to realize that it has shortcomings.

    Kids deserve unconditional love. Technology doesn't. Learn the difference.
    took the words right outta my mouth. no device can be perfect, the reason why? technology. there is always new technology coming out, so how can a device ever be perfect? now the iphone is a great device, but it is not perfect
    09-28-2009 06:27 PM
  4. Brickman's Avatar
    Perfect? Right. You obviously haven't tried to access anything on the file system on your phone, tether it, or send multi-part MMS messages (sound + pictures) with it. Go ahead and say that you don't need any of that. It still proves the phone isn't perfect. Oh, and the camera is crap. Not only is the shudder speed super slow, it takes horrible pictures without perfect lighting.

    The iPhone is a nice device. It's great for entertainment. It doesn't do everything, though. It only does what Apple and AT&T want you to be able to do. I can tether just about any other phone without AT&T (or Apple's) consent, send multi-part MMS messages, and access any file on the phone or even add files to the phone. I'm currently using an android phone and it is much closer to being perfect than the iPhone is.

    But you go ahead and enjoy being tethered to iTunes and having limited access to simple functions on your phone. The iPhone is a perfect device for people who don't really know what a smartphone is.
    Actually you can tether, you can MMS, and you can access the file system easily, and you can create /edit Word and Excel Docs. I do all of these every day.

    The G1 is a nice device but before you come to an iPhone forum and start stating what it can and can not do, you need to get you facts straight.
    09-28-2009 06:29 PM
  5. gravage's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure your phone can't do half the things an iPhone can. I'm sure you can't record and edit the video right after then upload straight to YouTube. I'm pretty sure your phone doesn't have even half of the apps iPhone has. You know there are ways around apple and AT&T's limits. Little thing called jailbreak
    I'm pretty sure you're ignorant and know nothing about phones. You should probably do a little more research. My phone can do all of those things, some of them better than the iPhone can. I currently have the HTC Magic.

    And no, my phone doesn't have nearly as many iFart apps as the iPhone does, but it has the apps I want, so I guess I'll have to settle for not downloading junk.

    Side note on Jailbreak: I don't have to "jailbreak" my phone to get these features. And if I did, an update to the OS a few weeks from now wouldn't undo (or brick ) it.

    Here's a nice little test for you: Try to copy a sound clip to your iPhone and then send it to someone as an MMS (or even an e-mail). Let me know when you manage to accomplish that.
    Last edited by greyhulk; 09-28-2009 at 06:56 PM.
    09-28-2009 06:42 PM
  6. DBlanco's Avatar
    Thank you sir.

    Actually you can tether, you can MMS, and you can access the file system easily, and you can create /edit Word and Excel Docs. I do all of these every day.

    The G1 is a nice device but before you come to an iPhone forum and start stating what it can and can not do, you need to get you facts straight.
    09-28-2009 06:48 PM
  7. gravage's Avatar
    Actually you can tether, you can MMS, and you can access the file system easily, and you can create /edit Word and Excel Docs. I do all of these every day.

    The G1 is a nice device but before you come to an iPhone forum and start stating what it can and can not do, you need to get you facts straight.
    Really? You can tether, huh? Either you have the tether hack and you haven't updated to 3.1 (thus nuking it) or your phone is jailbroken. Either way, it doesn't count. Having to hack your phone to get features that it doesn't have is basically saying "my phone isn't perfect", thus the topic of this thread (duh). But feel free to go through all the trouble of jailbreaking your phone so Apple can break it in a few weeks with an update. Then you get to wait until you can jailbreak it again (or wait to download the update in the first place). I never said you can't MMS. You just had to wait for 3 years to get that ability. What I said was, you can't send a MULTI-PART MMS, like a sound + a picture. You can send multiple pictures in one message or one sound, but that's it. The iPhone's MMS is very simple.

    I never stated I had a G1. I used to. I currently have a Magic.My point was that no phone is perfect, but I have had just about every phone you can name and I can name plenty of them with better features than the iPhone. I have also owned the original iPhone, the 3G and the 3Gs, so I can assure you that I know what I'm talking about.
    09-28-2009 06:49 PM
  8. DBlanco's Avatar
    You must not know there's an app for pretty much everythig yo just mentioned and then some. Not just ifart apps, jerk. Excuse apple for adding some entertainment

    I'm pretty sure you're ignorant and no nothing about phones. You should probably do a little more research. My phone can do all of those things, some of them better than the iPhone can. I currently have the HTC Magic.

    And no, my phone doesn't have nearly as many iFart apps as the iPhone does, but it has the apps I want, so I guess I'll have to settle for not downloading junk.

    Side note on Jailbreak: I don't have to "jailbreak" my phone to get these features. And if I did, an update to the OS a few weeks from now wouldn't undo (or brick ) it.

    Here's a nice little test for you: Try to copy a sound clip to your iPhone and then send it to someone as an MMS (or even an e-mail). Let me know when you manage to accomplish that.
    09-28-2009 06:57 PM
  9. gravage's Avatar
    You must not know there's an app for pretty much everythig yo just mentioned and then some. Not just ifart apps, jerk. Excuse apple for adding some entertainment
    Wow. Breaking out with the name calling already. I haven't struck a nerve, have I?

    You're going to have to direct me to the app that lets you tether. I haven't been able to find that one on the app store. I wonder if it's because AT&T won't allow it?

    I still challenge you to copy an MP3 to your iPhone and then send it to someone. Let me know how that works for you.
    09-28-2009 06:59 PM
  10. sting7k's Avatar
    The fart apps are part of the iPhone experience. Bodily functions are way of life. You know you fart and laugh every time.
    09-28-2009 07:02 PM
  11. gravage's Avatar
    A couple more challenges for your "perfect" phone:

    1) Open up Pandora to listen to music. Now check the text message you just received and reply to it. What? You say Pandora quit streaming as soon as you opened messaging? Well that sucks.

    2) Surf the web until you find a sound clip you'd like to download. Now download it to your iPhone.

    3) Fire up iChat mobile

    4) Listen to music through your bluetooth headset. Now skip to the next track using the controls on your headset.

    There's more, of course. But I'm pretty sure that any one of these is enough to dispute your claim that the iPhone is "perfect".
    09-28-2009 07:09 PM
  12. gravage's Avatar
    The fart apps are part of the iPhone experience. Bodily functions are way of life. You know you fart and laugh every time.
    Well yeah. I do. But I don't need an app to do it for me. That's like cheating.
    09-28-2009 07:19 PM
  13. Earless Puppy's Avatar
    Even if you want more from the iPhone, respect this... The iPhone raised the bar on all other cellphones on the market... Without the iPhone many people would still think the razr is a awesome phone. And yes like it or not, the iPhone made every company up their standards and innovation...
    09-28-2009 08:02 PM
  14. Brickman's Avatar
    Really? You can tether, huh? Either you have the tether hack and you haven't updated to 3.1 (thus nuking it) or your phone is jailbroken. Either way, it doesn't count. Having to hack your phone to get features that it doesn't have is basically saying "my phone isn't perfect", thus the topic of this thread (duh). But feel free to go through all the trouble of jailbreaking your phone so Apple can break it in a few weeks with an update. Then you get to wait until you can jailbreak it again (or wait to download the update in the first place). I never said you can't MMS. You just had to wait for 3 years to get that ability. What I said was, you can't send a MULTI-PART MMS, like a sound + a picture. You can send multiple pictures in one message or one sound, but that's it. The iPhone's MMS is very simple.

    I never stated I had a G1. I used to. I currently have a Magic.My point was that no phone is perfect, but I have had just about every phone you can name and I can name plenty of them with better features than the iPhone. I have also owned the original iPhone, the 3G and the 3Gs, so I can assure you that I know what I'm talking about.
    Yes you can tether even after 3.1. There is actually a thread about it around here somewhere. I will also disagree with your point about JB. Saying that JB does not count because it was not part of the original phone is equivalent to saying that ALL third party apps do not count in making the phone more functional because they were not originally on the phone. (and NO I am not JB) MMS, I have only had a couple of days so I do not know what it can do. Frankly I do not care. MMS is an outdated technology IMO anyway. Most people that I deal with IM or Email. But that is just me.

    While I will agree with you that no phone is perfect for everyone. (ie. The Magic for me would be ABSOLUTELY unusable because T-Mobile's service is my area is almost non-existent.) I will agree with the OP that the iPhone is the perfect phone...for me. I also have tried or look at them all.

    You are obviously knowledgeable in the "smartphone" arena. I would suggest to you that you walk a bit more careful, especially with only a very few posts under your belt. Your knowledge and observation will be readily excepted if you do not come across..... frankly as a Troll. Just a suggestion.
    09-28-2009 09:04 PM
  15. jhamilton3's Avatar
    Watch the name calling and insulting or this one is gonna be closed.
    09-28-2009 10:29 PM
  16. earl-ku's Avatar
    i bought the iphone as it is ... i have done some fair amount of reading, and more reading and i know what am i expecting before i bought it - so i its something that i like(as for now)

    i am not complaining that its got not enough buttons ...

    and btw i was on mostly wm phones for as long as i can rememeber - the last was a tp2 ...
    09-28-2009 10:30 PM
  17. djbbox's Avatar
    agree here too. man i love my device, and everything about it. the day i want a stupid awkward fing keyboard; i`ll get one with a keyboard. there is dozens of phones out there. get the one you want and complain about the iPhone in that forum. lol
    09-28-2009 10:37 PM
  18. DBlanco's Avatar
    Thank you. This guy is in an iPhone blog talking crap about it. That's just stupid. Nobody cares about the HTC so you come and try to bash the iPhone?

    agree here too. man i love my device, and everything about it. the day i want a stupid awkward fing keyboard; i`ll get one with a keyboard. there is dozens of phones out there. get the one you want and complain about the iPhone in that forum. lol
    09-28-2009 10:40 PM
  19. 3seven1's Avatar
    Watch the name calling and insulting or this one is gonna be closed.

    Closed for name calling? How sad.
    09-29-2009 12:04 AM
  20. lionheartednyhc's Avatar
    Yes you can tether even after 3.1. There is actually a thread about it around here somewhere. I will also disagree with your point about JB. Saying that JB does not count because it was not part of the original phone is equivalent to saying that ALL third party apps do not count in making the phone more functional because they were not originally on the phone. (and NO I am not JB) MMS, I have only had a couple of days so I do not know what it can do. Frankly I do not care. MMS is an outdated technology IMO anyway. Most people that I deal with IM or Email. But that is just me.

    Uh, there is a large difference. Third part apps in the appstore are easy to install and are in fact encouraged. Jailbroke apps are quite the opposite, you have to HACK the phone in order to get it to kind of work, until the next update is released. Then its broken again.

    The iphone has the CAPABILITY of being near perfect, but no phone that needs to be HACKED INTO in order to provide basic functionality can be called perfect.
    09-29-2009 01:53 AM
  21. alliei5's Avatar
    The iPhone is perfect. If you want an extra button for some extra dumb unnecessary reason, get another phone. You don't buy the iPhone to complain about what it doesn't have. Appreciate what it has and how much better it is now than any phone out there. You like the bb menu button? Buy a blackberry. Want a slide down keyboard? Buy the g1.
    I second that!
    09-29-2009 02:18 AM
  22. ctt1wbw's Avatar
    A couple more challenges for your "perfect" phone:

    1) Open up Pandora to listen to music. Now check the text message you just received and reply to it. What? You say Pandora quit streaming as soon as you opened messaging? Well that sucks.

    2) Surf the web until you find a sound clip you'd like to download. Now download it to your iPhone.

    3) Fire up iChat mobile

    4) Listen to music through your bluetooth headset. Now skip to the next track using the controls on your headset.

    There's more, of course. But I'm pretty sure that any one of these is enough to dispute your claim that the iPhone is "perfect".

    I notice you left out the iPod function. You can listen to the iPod and do other things. Now how about that battery life?
    09-29-2009 05:35 AM
  23. ctt1wbw's Avatar
    Uh, there is a large difference. Third part apps in the appstore are easy to install and are in fact encouraged. Jailbroke apps are quite the opposite, you have to HACK the phone in order to get it to kind of work, until the next update is released. Then its broken again.

    The iphone has the CAPABILITY of being near perfect, but no phone that needs to be HACKED INTO in order to provide basic functionality can be called perfect.
    You don't have to HACK the iPhone. It's as simple as running a program. Hacking involves command line stuff that the user has to do. Jailbreaking is just running a program.
    09-29-2009 05:36 AM
  24. ctt1wbw's Avatar
    I believe this is the first time I have seen someone reply to them self.
    It's cuz im a sycko!!! mwahahahaha
    09-29-2009 05:37 AM
  25. Greg Orlando's Avatar
    iphone is a phone that must get my appreciation. It is a perfect phone that contains all the useful necessary features. I would like to thank apple from the bottom of my heart.
    09-29-2009 06:12 AM
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