1. wgary's Avatar
    This has been a very interesting conversation. I am also a WinMo refugee. (I bought my wife a Touch and after a couple minutes with it knew I had to get an iPhone.) There I regularly flashed, and got comfortable with it. But the stories of bricking with an update are pretty scary. How real are they?

    I do like the idea of running things in the background. What is the impact of that, though? This was always an issue with WinMo where no matter how much memory you had, things would start closing--always without notice. So I'm thinking my GPS will tell my the next turn... only to check and it magically closed at some point! How does this work with the iPhone? How many open? Does the OS do memory management?

    Also, is backgrounding a part of the 3.x update roadmap?

    I also like the idea of freeing Sling from the confines of WiFi. I could sling over 3G on my WinMo and it seems crazy that I can't from my iPhone. It's not like I can't stream from other sources. Why single out Sling?
    08-19-2009 05:53 PM
  2. madmak's Avatar
    This has been a very interesting conversation. I am also a WinMo refugee. (I bought my wife a Touch and after a couple minutes with it knew I had to get an iPhone.) There I regularly flashed, and got comfortable with it. But the stories of bricking with an update are pretty scary. How real are they?

    I do like the idea of running things in the background. What is the impact of that, though? This was always an issue with WinMo where no matter how much memory you had, things would start closing--always without notice. So I'm thinking my GPS will tell my the next turn... only to check and it magically closed at some point! How does this work with the iPhone? How many open? Does the OS do memory management?

    Also, is backgrounding a part of the 3.x update roadmap?

    I also like the idea of freeing Sling from the confines of WiFi. I could sling over 3G on my WinMo and it seems crazy that I can't from my iPhone. It's not like I can't stream from other sources. Why single out Sling?

    the bricking stories are exaggerated. you can always do a restore from DFU mode (unless you brick your phone and break the USB connector at the same time).


    on the 3GS, you have around 160MB of free RAM after the kernel loads up. That gives you a lot of space to run background apps. There is a youtube video where a guy has 2 big games and 4 other apps backgrounded without any noticeable delay.

    I dont think Apple will allow backgrounded apps anytime soon. They have made a huge investment in Push notifications and so has the entire ecosystem (app developers).
    08-19-2009 09:46 PM
  3. wgary's Avatar
    @madmak
    Thanks for your reply. What is "DFU mode"?
    Also, what happens if memory is full? Will it crash? Or what? Will GPS run in the background?

    This seems really intriguing, but I really don't miss all the tweaking and finagling I had to do on my Fuze just to get the d*mn thing almost working. Having something that "just works" right out of the box is really refreshing. My fear is that JB will take me back into WinMo-like hell, where things are never working together quite right, and one wrong move can put you back on square one. I spent way too much time trying to get my Fuze to work right.
    08-19-2009 10:18 PM
  4. CatSkwared's Avatar
    Like my phone the way it is ...
    08-19-2009 10:37 PM
  5. refil's Avatar
    Jail broken
    08-21-2009 07:34 AM
  6. mlatrece's Avatar
    I have had no problems with my iphone except the battery life; but I don't think jailbreaking my phone will help that.
    08-21-2009 11:08 PM
  7. tealeafx's Avatar
    I like it the way it is
    08-28-2009 12:02 PM
  8. ebock's Avatar
    The only reson I would jailbreak would be to get the full version of GV Mobile. I ave the free dialer before it was removed. I have put the tethering hack in place and have MMS set and ready to go if AT&T will ever provision my account for MMS. I have the carrier 5.0 profile on there.
    09-02-2009 04:15 PM
  9. dragonc12's Avatar
    I love being jailbroken. Having SBSettings alone is worth it.
    09-02-2009 09:43 PM
  10. Earless Puppy's Avatar
    I have had no problems with my iphone except the battery life; but I don't think jailbreaking my phone will help that.
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    unless you run background apps using jailbreaking, it wont hurt your battery life... but to answer your question Jailbreaking will not help your battery life..
    09-02-2009 10:32 PM
  11. SaberSerene's Avatar
    I do jailbreak because of what I can add to my iPhone such as SBsettings and basically missing features.
    09-02-2009 10:51 PM
  12. chobbs1's Avatar
    O thought this thread was for the non JB-ers to state why they choose not to jail break?? To many people that have jailbroken are on here defending their decision.
    09-03-2009 12:03 AM
  13. PHATSPEED7x's Avatar
    My iPhone works great. Why screw up a good thing.
    09-03-2009 07:21 AM
  14. lordzod01's Avatar
    @chobbs1

    you must let people here both sides of the argument. Some of the JB members are helping others understand. Some people don't know what a JB iPhone can do. Plus it makes for a better read, when you look at both sides.
    09-03-2009 01:33 PM
  15. shutter's Avatar
    @chobbs1

    you must let people here both sides of the argument. Some of the JB members are helping others understand. Some people don't know what a JB iPhone can do. Plus it makes for a better read, when you look at both sides.

    So I guess, they all need to come into the jailbreak threads and tell us what fools we are. This is their space, give it to them

    O thought this thread was for the non JB-ers to state why they choose not to jail break?? To many people that have jailbroken are on here defending their decision.
    It's not hard to see why readers might try to defend their decision to jailbreak after reading posts like this, where you are telling everyone what a bad idea it is. I got no problem with other peoples decisions with their device, more power to ya, but statements like these invite rebuttal, in particular the bolded portion of your first post....

    I've read, on this site particularly, about too many people that have had problems after jailbreaking. I am not willing to mess with a good thing. My phone is fast, smooth and just works! Why should I mess with that? Give me a good reason I should jailbreak. Themes? Naw, those don't matter to me. Background? Naw, I really haven't found a need,yet, for that. Any thing else?
    Here's a few reasons Apple stands where it does on jailbreaking

    Crashes & instability
    Malfunctioning & safety
    Invasion of privacy
    Exposing children to age-inappropriate content
    Viruses & malware*
    Inability to update software
    Cellular network impact*
    Piracy of developers applications*
    Instability of developers applications*
    Increased support burden*
    Developer relationships
    The Apple/iPhone brand*
    Limitation on ability to innovate
    09-03-2009 02:48 PM
  16. chobbs1's Avatar
    My post was out of line. I retract my earlier thought. I do invite intelligent conversation.
    09-03-2009 07:20 PM
  17. anon(153966)'s Avatar
    ...still not Jailbroken here. I think I'll stay this way
    09-03-2009 10:02 PM
  18. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I jailbroke the phone within 2 hours of getting it. Backrounder makes it well worth it. I see no downside to doing it but to each their own.
    09-04-2009 03:22 AM
  19. li2327's Avatar
    I was going to jailbreak my 3g but decided not to since the 3.1 is supposed to be released on the 25th. I'm sure a jailbreak solution will be soon to follow for the 3.1.
    09-06-2009 01:45 AM
  20. Enforcer25's Avatar
    Just got my phone and so far see no reason to do this just yet.
    09-06-2009 05:59 PM
  21. SOV's Avatar
    I had my 3GS for about 3 months and finally decided to do it about 2 days ago. I really am glad. As for cellular network impact i see none. I understand installing some packages, which is the name for apps on Cydia, could impact network stability. But I can roughly tell with my judgment which ones not to install. And using Block my Call, a spoof app that allows you to make any number you call look like its coming from any number you want it to was worth it for me. I thought it was complicated to do but i watched a youtube video for about 8 minutes and that was enough to show me it really isnt complicated at all. Definately worth it using Backgrounder, Block my call, winter board, and installous. I mean you can get any app for free.
    09-06-2009 06:16 PM
  22. kristinlynn#IM's Avatar
    I'm a scaredy cat and never even did a jailbreak on my iTouch let alone my brand new shiny iPhone. Maybe I'll try it on the iTouch and if I don't screw it up, I'll try it...but I'm just afraid of what will happen if I have a problem down the road. I don't want to void my warranty or Apple Care...
    09-06-2009 08:10 PM
  23. IGoSlo's Avatar
    I JB both mine & my wife's 3G 3.0. So far NO major problems. Been done now about 5 months. There are a few MINOR draw backs, but none to loose sleep over. This may sound strange to some, but my reason for JB is "Because I can." I think that covers it "ALL." IGoSlo
    09-18-2009 04:30 PM
  24. chobbs1's Avatar
    I have been reading this forum in particular for quite some time. Here is yet another reason, for me, to NOT jailbreak- it seems that more than half of the "help" posts are from those that have jailbroken. Now it seems that a standard troubleshooting question is....are you jailbroken?

    This along with my previouse reasons is why I choose to, as this thread states, NOT jailbreak.
    09-18-2009 10:59 PM
  25. Earless Puppy's Avatar
    I hate spyware and I can see jail breaking software eventually getting some
    09-19-2009 02:30 AM
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