1. BaLLi5t1c's Avatar
    I did a search and didn't get any relevant results so my apologies if this topic has been touched on before.

    Anyways, my co-worker has a first gen iPhone and I was just using it today to get a bit more accustomed to the GUI before I pick mine up Friday and I was somewhat disappointed to see that the landscape view/keyboard wasn't applicable for text messages. I didn't test it in e-mail but can anyone confirm whether this is an issue that's being addressed (or merely an option on the existing software that my colleague didn't have enabled) or is it just going to be a no-go even with the 2.0 software?

    Any input is appreciated.
    07-07-2008 12:51 PM
  2. volsfan0911's Avatar
    I did a search and didn't get any relevant results so my apologies if this topic has been touched on before.

    Anyways, my co-worker has a first gen iPhone and I was just using it today to get a bit more accustomed to the GUI before I pick mine up Friday and I was somewhat disappointed to see that the landscape view/keyboard wasn't applicable for text messages. I didn't test it in e-mail but can anyone confirm whether this is an issue that's being addressed (or merely an option on the existing software that my colleague didn't have enabled) or is it just going to be a no-go even with the 2.0 software?

    Any input is appreciated.
    AFAIK, nothing has changed with the 2.0 software in that regard.
    07-07-2008 01:03 PM
  3. BaLLi5t1c's Avatar
    Thanks for the timely response. I was afraid of that. You would think something so seemingly simple would be implemented without hesitation.
    07-07-2008 01:17 PM
  4. Ignorance's Enemy!'s Avatar
    Yeah, it is simple and I believe they might toy around with the idea on another iphone to build hype. Steve Job's likes giving you only some of what you want and leave you wanting more...
    07-07-2008 02:17 PM
  5. Dionte's Avatar
    Thanks for the timely response. I was afraid of that. You would think something so seemingly simple would be implemented without hesitation.
    when I was watchin wwdc and they said they gave enterprise customers everything they asked for, I was thinking whew now their gonna talk about regular consumers and giving them what they asked for, maybe the next release we'll get some satisfaction
    07-07-2008 02:17 PM
  6. WatersWest's Avatar
    I think part of why the keyboard is only in portrait and not landscape is from a speed & efficiency standpoint ... not the iPhone's, but yours. Have you noticed whenever you start typing on a different phone's keyboard, it takes a while to get used to? Over time, you get faster and faster to the point where your fingers move naturally over the keys, sometimes without hardly thinking about it. This is called muscle memory. It may be a little paternalistic on Apple's part, but my theory is that they want you to have that muscle memory effect. By keeping the keyboard consistent, it probably cuts down on the amount of 'lost' muscle memory and therefore leads to more efficient use of the keyboard as is. Therefore, as people get more used to typing in the same orientation, there are few complaints about the lack of a physical keyboard.
    07-07-2008 02:24 PM
  7. dhp1080's Avatar
    I've heard from plenty of people that after the first two weeks of using an iPhone, it will feel completely natural. Plus the iPhone's spelling corrections and predictive guessing is very good.
    07-07-2008 02:33 PM
  8. burnsaa's Avatar
    I've heard from plenty of people that after the first two weeks of using an iPhone, it will feel completely natural. Plus the iPhone's spelling corrections and predictive guessing is very good.
    I've noticed the opposite it does do a good job of changing words that you have miss typed and it is fairly easy to get used to but it doesnt really have spell check or predictive text like say WM does. I wish that is something they would take into consideration along with landscape keyboard in every program on the iPhone.
    07-07-2008 02:59 PM
  9. sterling's Avatar
    I think part of why the keyboard is only in portrait and not landscape is from a speed & efficiency standpoint ... not the iPhone's, but yours. Have you noticed whenever you start typing on a different phone's keyboard, it takes a while to get used to? Over time, you get faster and faster to the point where your fingers move naturally over the keys, sometimes without hardly thinking about it. This is called muscle memory. It may be a little paternalistic on Apple's part, but my theory is that they want you to have that muscle memory effect. By keeping the keyboard consistent, it probably cuts down on the amount of 'lost' muscle memory and therefore leads to more efficient use of the keyboard as is. Therefore, as people get more used to typing in the same orientation, there are few complaints about the lack of a physical keyboard.
    I disagree with this idea on general principle. I don't think this is exactly why Apple chose to not change the keyboard, but if so it seems like Apple would just saying to all of us "Yeah, not including a landscape keyboard option was kind of stupid on our part. But let's train your muscles to live with it rather than correct the issue."

    ...doesn't exactly seem like a good business model to me
    07-07-2008 09:28 PM
  10. LOdam7's Avatar
    I doubt there is gonna be room for that.
    07-07-2008 09:35 PM
  11. supermum's Avatar
    I doubt there is gonna be room for that.
    Room for what?

    Landscape keyboard is available for Safari and YouTube... there is room if that is what you meant.
    07-07-2008 09:58 PM
  12. timebomb16's Avatar
    Thanks for the timely response. I was afraid of that. You would think something so seemingly simple would be implemented without hesitation.
    well because of the length of the phone . . . it makes it harder to use a landscape keyboard. Try it in Safari, i know i can barely do it :/
    07-07-2008 11:40 PM
  13. timebomb16's Avatar
    Room for what?

    Landscape keyboard is available for Safari and YouTube... there is room if that is what you meant.
    yeah . . . but i personally think it looks awkward
    07-07-2008 11:44 PM
  14. joshboldman's Avatar
    I think part of why the keyboard is only in portrait and not landscape is from a speed & efficiency standpoint ... not the iPhone's, but yours. Have you noticed whenever you start typing on a different phone's keyboard, it takes a while to get used to? Over time, you get faster and faster to the point where your fingers move naturally over the keys, sometimes without hardly thinking about it. This is called muscle memory. It may be a little paternalistic on Apple's part, but my theory is that they want you to have that muscle memory effect. By keeping the keyboard consistent, it probably cuts down on the amount of 'lost' muscle memory and therefore leads to more efficient use of the keyboard as is. Therefore, as people get more used to typing in the same orientation, there are few complaints about the lack of a physical keyboard.
    You know, at first it was pretty difficult to get used to, but now that I've been using the onscreen keyboard, it's gotten much, much easier. I can now type without really even looking at the keyboard, and the auto correct catches most of what I don't get right.
    07-08-2008 09:09 AM
  15. rosaxoparks's Avatar
    I think they should just add it, many people have been asking for it. I know they want to promote muscle memory, and i like it better upright, but landscape keyboarding is something simple that i think needs to be added, just for those of us who might prefer it..
    07-08-2008 10:31 AM
  16. supermum's Avatar
    I am used to typing in landscape because of my LG V I had for 2 1/2 years. To me it is more comfortable and seems right. Of course, it took me a few weeks before that was normal when I switched from a T9 phone... so who knows what will happen with my "mini muscles" this time
    07-08-2008 11:19 AM
  17. AZMerf's Avatar
    Won't there be very little screen space if the used in the landscape mode?
    07-08-2008 11:32 AM
  18. coachpete's Avatar
    I could see the lack of a landscape keyboard as a deal breaker when it comes to a user that maybe an enterprise user. This is the only option I can see why BlackBerry users will not make the jump to the iPhone. Typing a long email on a cell phone is much easier on a full keyboard such as the one on the BlackBerry. I do not see this has a big hurdle for Apple to overcome and I really do not understand why that do not offer it as an option to turn on and off in each application on iPhone.
    07-08-2008 11:54 AM
  19. txschafers's Avatar
    Will the 3G iPhone go into landscape mode when e-mailing or texting like it does when you launch Safari? I know the Instinct does this as I just bought two for my wife and eldest son. The main thing that has kept me from buying an iPhone is the portrait keyboard which I find almost impossible to type with.
    07-10-2008 07:33 PM
  20. volsfan0911's Avatar
    in a previous post, someone mentioned that Apple should at least offer the option and I still agree with that. For speedy thumb typing, yes, portrait mode probably is the best option and I would probably stay with that 99% of the time. But fer cryin' out loud, it's a lousy software update and if I remember El Jeffe's original plug for an all touch interface, it's so "we can add a button down the road" or something to that effect. OK Steve, people (a.k.a. paying customers) have asked for this option en masse. Shut up & deliver! Please.
    07-10-2008 08:45 PM
  21. txschafers's Avatar
    I could see the lack of a landscape keyboard as a deal breaker when it comes to a user that maybe an enterprise user. This is the only option I can see why BlackBerry users will not make the jump to the iPhone. Typing a long email on a cell phone is much easier on a full keyboard such as the one on the BlackBerry. I do not see this has a big hurdle for Apple to overcome and I really do not understand why that do not offer it as an option to turn on and off in each application on iPhone.
    I am a Blackberry user and the single reason I will not buy an iPhone is because of the non-landscape keyboard issue. The Instinct has this and works fantastically. As soon as apple fixes this I will consider an iPhone. Until then I have no use for an iPhone since I hate the crampness of the portrait keyboard.
    07-11-2008 12:35 PM
  22. myiphone's Avatar
    There is a new app that supports sending landscape e-mails (actually there are other two, but this one appears to be the best one since it supports special characters and international keyboards). It is called "Big Keyboard Email".
    10-11-2008 09:56 PM
  23. sethclifford's Avatar
    Actually there are several - I just bought another one called TouchType. You do have to jump through an extra hurdle of leaving the mail app to compose/reply, but it is very cool. If it became a native option from within mail/sms, it would be much better. But for now, it'll do.

    Like I said, I saw at least 3-4 landscape keyboard apps, though. Only tried the one.
    10-12-2008 11:26 AM
  24. Dalekkiller's Avatar
    I think this is the big thing in apps at the moment as I've seen several new landscape mail apps over the last few days.
    After 3 months, I'm getting quite good at using several fingers typing in portrait mode but it would be good to have landscape as an option. At the moment, I'm waiting to see if Apple bring it out as an update. As there are so many landscape mail apps out now, I'll wait until there are several reviews before buying one.
    10-12-2008 03:02 PM
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