1. illjazz's Avatar
    We know that AT&T has confirmed an 8am launch on Friday. But what about Apple? They have released no information at all on just when they intend to launch the iPhone 3G exactly. That is.. at what time on Friday. Perhaps they're doing that on purpose so they don't have people lining up outside? I'm still hopeful they'll provide details this week..

    I have $40 on an Apple gift card and $60 of the $100 I got back for being an early iPhone adopter. (BTW, does anyone know if the early adopter "coupon" had/has an expiration date?). If it weren't for these coupons, I'd just go to any AT&T store...

    Also, I'll be in NYC on Friday. The cube is probably a bad place to try to get an iPhone 3G on Friday..
    07-07-2008 12:44 AM
  2. gadgetluva's Avatar
    well, there's still a few days left so we'll have the information all over the internet before the 11th.
    07-07-2008 12:46 AM
  3. Cool Cat's Avatar
    I'm going to call my local Apple Store(s) in the morning and ask them what their plans are. I'll post whatever I find out.
    07-07-2008 01:37 AM
  4. illjazz's Avatar
    I'm going to call my local Apple Store(s) in the morning and ask them what their plans are. I'll post whatever I find out.
    Thanks. Appreciated! However, unless Apple officially announces anything about Friday this morning, I don't think the Apple employees will know any more than they already do. In other words, they'll just be like "I don't know" and "We don't have info on that at this time, sorreh". Still, asking is worth a shot for sure.
    07-07-2008 02:04 AM
  5. mtsfestivus's Avatar
    Also, I'll be in NYC on Friday. The cube is probably a bad place to try to get an iPhone 3G on Friday..
    Yes, you know the line started last Friday, right?
    07-07-2008 02:37 AM
  6. Mihai's Avatar
    Go to the Cube in NY if you want to be seen on TV or in the newspapers
    But there are many other stores which will have the new iPhone, so that won't be a problem if you're from/in NY Friday.
    07-07-2008 07:12 AM
  7. illjazz's Avatar
    Yes, you know the line started last Friday, right?
    I know, yeah.. which is funny considering Apple hasn't announced at what time exactly they're launching the phone on Friday! They could still say "6pm" or something else entirely.

    BTW, has the line grown longer than that crazy family so far?
    07-07-2008 07:17 AM
  8. illjazz's Avatar
    BTW, the cube is open 24/7. Who is going to respect those people for waiting a week when I can just walk right past them to get in the store at any time of the day? Even once Apple tells us when they're launching the iPhone 3G, on what authority will the waiters "get to be first" to buy the new iPhones?

    Guess I'm running out of ideas on what to worry about leading up to the launch
    07-07-2008 08:20 AM
  9. whmurray's Avatar
    We know that AT&T has confirmed an 8am launch on Friday. But what about Apple? They have released no information at all on just when they intend to launch the iPhone 3G exactly. That is.. at what time on Friday. Perhaps they're doing that on purpose so they don't have people lining up outside? I'm still hopeful they'll provide details this week..

    I have $40 on an Apple gift card and $60 of the $100 I got back for being an early iPhone adopter. (BTW, does anyone know if the early adopter "coupon" had/has an expiration date?). If it weren't for these coupons, I'd just go to any AT&T store...

    Also, I'll be in NYC on Friday. The cube is probably a bad place to try to get an iPhone 3G on Friday..
    I teach my students that a plan is the difference between a group of people and a team. The opposite is also true. If the members of the group do not share a plan, there isn't one.

    I visited the Apple store in Stamford, CT over the weekend. The people were all clueless, frustrated too, but no clue. Therefore, by definition, there is no plan.

    I feel like I am dealing with Palm again.
    07-07-2008 08:40 AM
  10. illjazz's Avatar
    I teach my students that a plan is the difference between a group of people and a team. The opposite is also true. If the members of the group do not share a plan, there isn't one.

    I visited the Apple store in Stamford, CT over the weekend. The people were all clueless, frustrated too, but no clue. Therefore, by definition, there is no plan.

    I feel like I am dealing with Palm again.
    It's no secret that Apple employees know as much as anyone when it comes to delicate information coming out of Apple. So the fact that you were unable to procure any additional information from an Apple store over the weekend only makes sense. It's not the fault of the employees in the store--it's Steve Jobs' will

    I'm hopeful Apple will tell us wtf is going on on Friday with their own stores.
    07-07-2008 01:18 PM
  11. whmurray's Avatar
    It's no secret that Apple employees know as much as anyone when it comes to delicate information coming out of Apple. So the fact that you were unable to procure any additional information from an Apple store over the weekend only makes sense. It's not the fault of the employees in the store--it's Steve Jobs' will

    I'm hopeful Apple will tell us wtf is going on on Friday with their own stores.
    A "plan" that is secret from those who must execute it is not a plan.

    If the owners of such a plan donot communicate it to the workers long before Friday, it is unlikely to succeed. Unless a plan has contingent tactics in it, it is unlikely to survive "first contact with the enemy (like it or not, that's us)." The more contingencies, the more complexity, the more training is necessary.

    Frankly, I see little potential value in all of this secrecy and a considerable potential downside.

    I expect chaos (which we definitely did not have last year).
    Last edited by whmurray; 07-07-2008 at 08:17 PM.
    07-07-2008 01:52 PM
  12. Reaktor5's Avatar
    Looks like it's starting to trickle out:
    iPhone 3G Store Displays, Demo Units, Apple Retail Launch - Mac Rumors

    I don't like not being able to pay with cash. Guess I'll have to run to the bank before Friday.
    07-07-2008 02:00 PM
  13. WatersWest's Avatar
    I've also heard that even if Apple employees do know something (which I'm sure they don't), they can get in big trouble for spilling the beans when they aren't supposed to.
    07-07-2008 02:17 PM
  14. bigbrass93's Avatar
    i was in the store today and the employee had no idea what time they would be on sale.
    07-07-2008 02:19 PM
  15. supermum's Avatar
    Just answered this in another post (forgot about this one).
    Apple Stores will be open at 8am.
    07-07-2008 07:52 PM
  16. illjazz's Avatar
    Update: Apple has confirmed an 8 a.m. launch of the iPhone 3G at all Apple Stores. For more information about the iPhone launch at Apple Stores, visit the Apple retail website.
    Via The iPhone Blog, which in turn got it from MacRumors.

    Sweeeeeeeet . Finally. So now, which store do I go to in Manhattan? SOHO or the cube? Boy this will be a *****. Also, does anyone know if Apple/AT&T takes debit cards? They're not anal about the difference between credit and debit cards, right?
    Last edited by illjazz; 07-07-2008 at 08:12 PM.
    07-07-2008 08:06 PM
  17. Cool Cat's Avatar
    So, I talked to my local AT&T and Apple stores today. AT&T said that they're only selling one phone per person, even though I'm trying to get one for myself and one for my wife on a family plan, porting both numbers from Verizon, and I'd like to be able to leave my wife at home to watch the kids. They won't let me buy her phone without her present. How stupid.

    The Apple store didn't have any answers for me, they didn't know how the activation process will work, they didn't know if they'll be opening at 8am (which we now know that they will), they didn't know if doing a credit pre-approval at an AT&T store will help. I thought it would but then I read somewhere that you have to do it at the store where you'll be buying your iPhone. Again, how stupid.

    I guess I'll just get in line early at the Apple Store on Friday and go through the whole process there.
    07-07-2008 10:47 PM
  18. Kupe#WP's Avatar
    AT&T said that they're only selling one phone per person, even though I'm trying to get one for myself and one for my wife on a family plan, porting both numbers from Verizon, and I'd like to be able to leave my wife at home to watch the kids. They won't let me buy her phone without her present. How stupid.
    Ah, the old "why yes, I have a wife at home and this second phone is for her" trick. They get that a lot. I mean c'mon, what does AT&T care if you get 2?
    07-07-2008 11:14 PM
  19. Cool Cat's Avatar
    Ah, the old "why yes, I have a wife at home and this second phone is for her" trick. They get that a lot. I mean c'mon, what does AT&T care if you get 2?
    Exactly. The CSR said it had to do with security. What? Why do they care if I want two phones? I just read the iReady Checklist pdf that they have available and it states that you can get one iPhone per person in line. Well, I'm probably going to be in line with my brother, who isn't planning to buy a 3G right away (he's got an original), so does that mean I can buy 2? The dumb AT&T CSR said no, it has to be the person that the phone is for. Sheesh.

    I hope Apple doesn't have these same dumb rules.
    07-07-2008 11:18 PM
  20. whmurray's Avatar
    Exactly. The CSR said it had to do with security. What? Why do they care if I want two phones? I just read the iReady Checklist pdf that they have available and it states that you can get one iPhone per person in line. Well, I'm probably going to be in line with my brother, who isn't planning to buy a 3G right away (he's got an original), so does that mean I can buy 2? The dumb AT&T CSR said no, it has to be the person that the phone is for. Sheesh.

    I hope Apple doesn't have these same dumb rules.
    In store activation that they have not trained for yet. It is only going to take one family plan with porting two numbers from Verizon to cause chaos. Can anyone say it is Tuesday already?

    If they roll out 2.0, I will stay home and play with that on WiFi. I do not have 3G in any case. I care more about 2.0 than 3G in any case. Of course that is a big "if." Nevermind that there is not much info on the phone, the only thing that I have heard on 2.0 is that the stores will have to install it on the demos. Said another way, the phones did not ship with 2.0.
    07-08-2008 07:42 AM
  21. joshboldman's Avatar
    In store activation that they have not trained for yet. It is only going to take one family plan with porting two numbers from Verizon to cause chaos. Can anyone say it is Tuesday already?

    If they roll out 2.0, I will stay home and play with that on WiFi. I do not have 3G in any case. I care more about 2.0 than 3G in any case. Of course that is a big "if." Nevermind that there is not much info on the phone, the only thing that I have heard on 2.0 is that the stores will have to install it on the demos. Said another way, the phones did not ship with 2.0.
    Yeah, you know, I've heard the same thing that the stores will have to update the demos to run 2.0. Is that a security measure so that no one sees the mighty 2.0 before launch? And then what about the ones that are for sale? Did they ship with 2.0? I've got to think they did, but then again, perhaps that's part of the activation process. Maybe when you activate it, the firmware is actually installed in the store? I don't know, that just sounds too complicated and too much potential to get screwed up.
    07-08-2008 08:46 AM
  22. illjazz's Avatar
    Yeah, you know, I've heard the same thing that the stores will have to update the demos to run 2.0. Is that a security measure so that no one sees the mighty 2.0 before launch? And then what about the ones that are for sale? Did they ship with 2.0? I've got to think they did, but then again, perhaps that's part of the activation process. Maybe when you activate it, the firmware is actually installed in the store? I don't know, that just sounds too complicated and too much potential to get screwed up.
    I'm sure updating the demo units to 2.0 won't be hard. I bet they have some way to mass deploy 2.0 across a bunch of devices all at the same time in the back room behind the Genius Bar or something.. do they actually already have demo iPhone 3Gs at stores? If not, they might get shipments of iPhone 3Gs already running 2.0 Thursday night and then simply put them up for display before the launch on Friday. The latter scenario sounds even simpler than the former to me, and by extension, more likely.

    iPhone 3G's that will go on sale on Friday are all preloaded with 2.0. Anything else makes no sense. Part of the activation process? Huh? Not a chance. Besides, that doesn't even make sense.. firmware 2.0 is pre-installed on iPhone 3Gs. End of story!
    07-08-2008 03:21 PM
  23. tankgunk's Avatar
    It comes to mind that Apple's plan for July 11th is to make as much money as they can from the iPhone 3G launch without causing injury or breaking any laws. If you want the real answer, it's to have the people in the orange shirts guide you through getting your iPhone.
    07-08-2008 06:11 PM
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