[whatever7]

Almost make me want to get a 4GB model just to hack it. How hard is it to unlock it again?

[WreckRman2]

Umm, you better read up some more... they cut the price on the 8gig model and plan to phase out the 4 gig model. The 4 gig model does not offer a price drop.

The 8-gigabyte iPhone will be $399 - $200 cheaper than the same model when it went on sale in June. The 4-gigabyte iPhone, which sold for $399, will be phased out.

[Malatesta]

Umm, you better read up some more... they cut the price on the 8gig model and plan to phase out the 4 gig model. The 4 gig model does not offer a price drop.

not true, the 4g is $299.

Maybe you should read up some more?

[whatever7]

heh

[Pearl_Diva]

However, 4GB doesn't appear on Apple's site. I guess you have to run down to the store?

Found it under the Clearance section.

[TazUk]

$200 cheaper than the same model when it went on sale in June

The price you pay for being first

Does this suggest that the iPhone might not be selling as quickly as Apple had hoped?

[Pearl_Diva]

CNET says the 4GB was lagging and that's why it was dumped.

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-977...l?tag=blogFeed

[bruckwine]

CNET says the 4GB was lagging and that's why it was dumped.

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-977...l?tag=blogFeed

It should've STARTED at $299 and dropped to $199 really!

[WreckRman2]

not true, the 4g is $299.

Maybe you should read up some more?

The article I read stated the above.. hehe either way I'll never buy one because it's on ATT.

[mobileman]

not true, the 4g is $299.

Maybe you should read up some more?

Actually Mal, maybe YOU should read more. The 4GB model is $299 while supplies last. It is being phased out.

Don't really know what to make of todays announcements. Not the best way to build product loyalty by slashing prices so quickly. It leaves many people feeling angry that they payed an extra $200.

[Malatesta]

Actually Mal, maybe YOU should read more. The 4GB model is $299 while supplies last. It is being phased out.

Quit trying to flame for chrissakes / :thumbsdn:

Read the thread title and 1st post:

Wow, the iPhone just drop $200 in price..
Almost make me want to get a 4GB model just to hack it.

This was then followed by:

...The 4 gig model does not offer a price drop.

To which I posted that, contra to that statement, the 4gb iPhone did get a price drop, to $299.

No where did I challenge that it was being phased out, which was not relevant to the main point: the 4gb got a price drop and whatever7 is possibly interested in buying one b/c of it.

[bubbatex]

Actually Mal, maybe YOU should read more. The 4GB model is $299 while supplies last. It is being phased out.

Don't really know what to make of todays announcements. Not the best way to build product loyalty by slashing prices so quickly. It leaves many people feeling angry that they payed an extra $200.

Yep, what Mal said right above me on the 4gb price......

As for the price drop - remember, Apple was first and foremost a computer company. Does seem a little quick though, but they might want to rid themselves of inventory before the holidays when the next rumored version is supposed to be out.

[mobileman]

Quit trying to flame for chrissakes / :thumbsdn:

Not trying to flame. My apologies.


I am kind of underwhelmed with today's announcements. I'm not really sure I see a huge market for the Ipod touch. Jobs called it "one of the seven wonders of the world". I just don't see it.

It would have been really neat though if I could tether a touch to a blackberry with bluetooth. I find I very rarely use my iPhone to actually listen to music, but I love the web browser.

[Pearl_Diva]

Don't really know what to make of todays announcements. Not the best way to build product loyalty by slashing prices so quickly. It leaves many people feeling angry that they payed an extra $200.

I still love the phone, but am unhappy at Apple itself. A free package of some type should be offered to early buyers since they slashed prices so soon! If they give a free Nano or store credit, I'd take that.

I wonder if there will be lots of angry June-September 4 customers in the stores.

[Kupe#WP]

A free package of some type should be offered to early buyers since they slashed prices so soon!

I believe the freebie is called OTA upgrades to existing shortfalls.

[surur]

Interesting and relevant article. If Apple fails to meet expectations it could be very damaging to their stratospheric stock price.

Apple's iPhone outsells rivals, but may be falling short of expectations
EVEN SO, IT MAY BE FALLING SHORT OF HIGH EXPECTATIONS
By Troy Wolverton
Mercury News
Article Launched: 09/05/2007 01:38:33 AM PDT

The iPhone is popular - but how popular? And will it live up to all the hype?

Apple's new mobile handset was the top-selling smart-phone in July, its first full month on sale, research firm iSuppli reported Tuesday. The 220,000 iPhones consumers bought that month accounted for 1.8 percent of all cell phones purchased in the United States in July, according to the firm. The iPhone even outsold LG's popular Chocolate handset, which was the top-selling feature phone, a category of handsets such as music phones that typically outsell smart-phones, iSuppli said.

That is a "remarkable accomplishment," iSuppli said.

But not so fast.

Apple sold fewer iPhones in all of July than it did in the first two days that the iPhone was on store shelves. Moreover, the total number of iPhones sold in July was below the pace needed to meet Apple's target of selling 1 million by the end of September, acknowledged Greg Sheppard, iSuppli's chief development officer.

"It's a pretty darn successful product, but (its sales are) probably lower than what everyone else is expecting it to be," Sheppard said.

Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris declined to comment on the iSuppli report.

Should the iSuppli data bear out, it would be at least the second indication that iPhone sales, while healthy, are not meeting the hype. The number of iPhones Apple sold in the device's first two days on the market were already below some of the wilder expectations on Wall Street, where forecasts for the first weekend of sales ran as high as 700,000.

Given the error margin in iSuppli's estimate, consumers bought between 200,000 and 240,000 iPhones in July, according to iSuppli's research. At that pace, consumers would buy between 600,000 and 720,000 by the end of Apple's fiscal quarter in September.

Apple predicted it would sell 730,000 iPhones in the quarter. And some analysts, figuring that the company was low-balling its forecast, have set much higher targets for the period. American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu, for instance, predicted Apple would sell 770,000 this quarter.

To be sure, iSuppli's numbers aren't directly comparable with Apple's. Apple's forecast includes both the iPhones it sells directly to consumers and those it ships to partner AT&T. Even if consumers don't buy 730,000 iPhones in the third quarter, Apple could ostensibly hit its mark by shipping more to retailers to meet the expected uptick in demand in the holiday quarter.

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_6804816

I think the iPod Touch will cannibalize iPhone sales even more.

Surur

[bruckwine]

Interesting and relevant article. If Apple fails to meet expectations it could be very damaging to their stratospheric stock price.


http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_6804816

I think the iPod Touch will cannibalize iPhone sales even more.

Surur

It would for me...I'm not sure I'm into a convergence device with so little storage...I already have a good phone so it makes more sense to ge the rest separatey.

The iPod classic is just what I want in terms of that..but the screen is the same size as my treo 680 so no improvement in watching movies or eBook/comic/magazine reading.... the iPod touch is perfect EXCEPT 8 GB is not much (which is what I'll go for anyway - it will hurt less when hey come out witht he 32 GB version next summer )... think I may g the touch way and just keep my favourite tunes on it...

Btw the Touch OS takes up 250 MB of the 8/16 GB if you check the specs...I hope they hack a way to remove some of those apps (who nees contacts w/o a phone?!)

[marcol]

Interesting and relevant article. If Apple fails to meet expectations it could be very damaging to their stratospheric stock price.


http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_6804816

I think the iPod Touch will cannibalize iPhone sales even more.

Surur

The article goes on to say that sales will boom come the holidays, but given the quite expensive contract commitment I'm not sure how true that will prove to be. It's also the reason that I doubt that the Touch will cannibalise iPhone sales very significantly - the other way round seems more likely to me (they'd have sold more Touches if the iPhone didn't exist).

[surur]

The article goes on to say that sales will boom come the holidays, but given the quite expensive contract commitment I'm not sure how true that will prove to be. It's also the reason that I doubt that the Touch will cannibalise iPhone sales very significantly - the other way round seems more likely to me (they'd have sold more Touches if the iPhone didn't exist).

I dont understand this part. With the Touch you can get the Apple slickness without the two year commitment, you get larger capacity for the same price, and you dont have to worry about running your phone down while watching video.

I think many many people who were considering an iPhone will go for the Touch instead, and much less the other way.

Surur

[Tim413]

Apple made a mistake!!!!!!!

They should have keep the iphone price the same and communicated their commitment to make it a even better smartphone in the future. Then, those who bought it would be happy they where part of a product of the future.

Tim

[bubbatex]

With the Touch you can get the Apple slickness without the two year commitment,

Surur

I assume you mean buying the GSM version retail? The Touch is coming to Sprint and it will require the same type of iPhone contract commitment.

[mobileman]

I dont understand this part. With the Touch you can get the Apple slickness without the two year commitment, you get larger capacity for the same price, and you dont have to worry about running your phone down while watching video.

I think many many people who were considering an iPhone will go for the Touch instead, and much less the other way.

Surur

Agreed, this will no doubt cost Apple some iPhone sales.

[marcol]

I dont understand this part. With the Touch you can get the Apple slickness without the two year commitment, you get larger capacity for the same price, and you dont have to worry about running your phone down while watching video.

I guess I was thinking people will still buy phones and phone contracts. Given that they will, and if you're in the market for a new phone and the iPhone/Touch-like iPod experience, why not just get an iPhone? For the vast majority of iPhone buyers I'm betting that iPhone alone is a more attractive option than A.N. Other phone plus a Touch. Not all for sure, but for the majority. Only one device to carry and to charge, cost similar (iPhone probably cheaper than A.N. Other plus Touch, contracts similar), similar (desired) functionality (iPhone does everything the Touch does). Of course the iPhone won't do for some and some will never use AT&T, but those folk were never going to be iPhone buyers anyway and aren't relevant to cannibalisation. Fair points about capacity and battery, and I'm sure that will sway a few.

[surur]

I assume you mean buying the GSM version retail? The Touch is coming to Sprint and it will require the same type of iPhone contract commitment.

Sprint is getting the HTC Touch, not the iPod Touch.

Ah Apple, why do you keep stealing other people's names? Even iPhone did not belong to you....

Surur

[surur]

I guess I was thinking people will still buy phones and phone contracts. Given that they will, and if you're in the market for a new phone and the iPhone/Touch-like iPod experience, why not just get an iPhone? For the vast majority of iPhone buyers I'm betting that iPhone alone is a more attractive option than A.N. Other phone plus a Touch. Not all for sure, but for the majority. Only one device to carry and to charge, cost similar (iPhone probably cheaper than A.N. Other plus Touch, contracts similar), similar (desired) functionality (iPhone does everything the Touch does). Of course the iPhone won't do for some and some will never use AT&T, but those folk were never going to iPhone buyers anyway and aren't relevant to cannibalisation. Fair points about capacity and battery, and I'm sure that will sway a few.

Ignoring fanatical contract breakers, only a certain percentage of people are coming out of contract every month, whereas the whole population can buy a iPod Touch any time they wanted to. And when they have an iPod Touch they are unlikely to buy an iPhone also.

Anyway, lets face it, the iPhone sucks as it phone. It makes a much better media player. Not to mention with Apple, contrary to expectations, for once slashing their prices, I think most people will wait for the free iPhone on contract.

Surur