1. Motoracer's Avatar
    I'm not sure if this should be in this section, but I see other iPhone threads, so I figured it was ok.

    How is E-mail on the iPhone? I use a POP3 email and have my computer (outlook) and my treo currently recieving my e-mail. Would the iPhone work the same way?

    Also, how easy is it to rough up the screen? I work in landscaping...sometimes I am in the office, and sometimes I am in the field. My hands do get dirty at times, and even though I'd be very careful, it seems like it can get scratched pretty easily.

    Anything else I should be looking out for with this phone?
    07-28-2007 10:12 PM
  2. oalvarez's Avatar
    mail: yes, with 15 minute intervals being the shortest automated setting (you can ck for mail yourself as often as you wish).

    screen: is it easy to rough up? its glass material should be able to withstand scratches pretty easily. as for the rest of the shell i find the finish to be much more durable than any Treo i ever owned (cheap chrome-type trim, easy to peel paint).

    i'd use a standard cell phone when working with dirt and the like and leave the pda (any pda) in the truck or office.
    07-29-2007 12:18 AM
  3. Motoracer's Avatar
    so it will only be able to check for new e-mails every 15 minutes? Don't our treos check every few minutes if we set it to do so? (sorry, I don't remember the setting on my 700wx).

    So it should be pretty durable as far as withstanding scratches and other abuse to the case? Obviously, I would be very careful, but in case I put it in my pocket or something, I don't want to take it out for a call and see a ton of scratches across the whole screen. Are there any sites that sell some sort of protection for the phone?

    Does it freeze like the treo? What is the issue with the battery I read about somewhere?

    THANKS!
    07-29-2007 06:45 AM
  4. oalvarez's Avatar
    you can check and download mail each time you open up the mail application. 15 minute intervals are the shortest intervals available if you want your email downloaded automatically.

    yes, the case is as durable as any other if not more so. do you know how hard it is to scratch glass? that's one of the benefits of having a glass screen. yes, they sell screen protectors but they're truly not necessary. there are many different protective sleeves to choose from.

    does it freeze like the Treo? no, not at all.

    battery issues you've read about? yes, there are some, feel free to go and read about them as i don't have any to tell you about.

    i'm sure others here will be more than glad to help you with further questions.
    07-29-2007 09:45 AM
  5. benbradle's Avatar
    you are getting email in the same manner as outlook.
    http://mobiledom.blogspot.com
    07-31-2007 05:05 AM
  6. benbradle's Avatar
    Clean your screen with soft cloth.
    http://mobiledom.blogspot.com
    07-31-2007 05:07 AM
  7. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    Its virtually impossible to scratch the screen. In one test i saw after they beat the thing up in a ziplock with a bunch of keys it had no scratches. So they just took the business end of the key and forcibly ran it over the face in an attempt to scratch, still no marks. They then dropped it from ear height 3-4 times and the only thing that took damage was the thin chrome rim around the screen.
    07-31-2007 10:49 AM
  8. Mike Overbo's Avatar
    what antel0pe said. The screen is glass, and won't scratch nearly as readily as the more common plastic screens will. If you're still worried, there are screen protectors available that work.
    08-02-2007 09:48 AM
  9. zeze22's Avatar
    I'm not sure if this should be in this section, but I see other iPhone threads, so I figured it was ok.

    How is E-mail on the iPhone? I use a POP3 email and have my computer (outlook) and my treo currently recieving my e-mail. Would the iPhone work the same way?

    Also, how easy is it to rough up the screen? I work in landscaping...sometimes I am in the office, and sometimes I am in the field. My hands do get dirty at times, and even though I'd be very careful, it seems like it can get scratched pretty easily.

    Anything else I should be looking out for with this phone?
    I would be wary of most feedback of the IPhone you get here. Alot of commentary but very little real experience with the device has been my observation.

    I'd read the IPhone forum on Apple.
    08-02-2007 09:52 AM
  10. Mike Overbo's Avatar
    I'd read the IPhone forum on Apple.
    08-02-2007 10:17 AM
  11. oalvarez's Avatar
    i believe Antelope and myself to be owners/users.....and honest in our opinions.
    08-02-2007 10:41 AM
  12. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    I would be wary of most feedback of the IPhone you get here. Alot of commentary but very little real experience with the device has been my observation.

    I'd read the IPhone forum on Apple.
    I've had one iPhone since day one and after 5 days my wife decided she wanted one. So we've had two in the house since the first week they were available. I've only used mine with Mac's though, never tried syncing with a Windows box.
    08-02-2007 12:07 PM
  13. oalvarez's Avatar
    sync's just fine with a Windows based PC.....no problems that i can attest to.
    08-02-2007 10:26 PM
  14. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    Something thats kinda funny is that i had nmap scanned the iPhone and it correctly identified the OS as OS X.
    08-02-2007 10:53 PM
  15. vinman's Avatar
    I've had one iPhone since day one and after 5 days my wife decided she wanted one. So we've had two in the house since the first week they were available. I've only used mine with Mac's though, never tried syncing with a Windows box.

    Same spouse experience here. After my having an HTC gsm device for a few years and it totally going kaput on me, and her having the cdma version, she was initially peeved that I would spend a couple hundred dollars more for my phone. Then, as it turned out, she later admitted that she was jealous and that I had to buy her one, as well.



    I think the comment about taking this particular forum's advice with a grain of salt is a result of the several posters on this site who adamantly - no, vehemently refuse to give the iPhone ANY positive comment. Seems like some of these people must be full time emplyees of someone who wants them to only spread bad press.

    iPhone is a great product. The VAST majority of owners think so. It's not perfect, but most iPhone users agree that it currently represents the best set of compromises available in a converged cell based device.

    By the way, I have two email accounts on the iPhone. It was the easiest device to set up that I have EVER used - bar none.
    08-09-2007 11:56 AM
  16. cardfan's Avatar
    To be fair, there's a number of palm & windows haters as well. Perhaps treo users got fed up hearing how bad the treo was and how the iphone was god's gift to the smartphone world.

    It's not. But it did get people talking and hopefully will speed up improvements. No phone is perfect. The iphone probably can't do half of what a Treo can do but what little it does, the iphone does pretty good except for perhaps email.

    I think treos are a mixed bag. Some get good ones out of the box. Others get buggy ones. Iphones probably are probably more stable and definitely have the cool factor & a unique touch interface. Treos can simply do much more though and aren't as unstable as you might be led to believe. I've not had a reset in weeks.

    Once you get past that pretty interface on the iphone in a week or so, you'll probably start to get bored and wonder where the cool games are, why that treo user can watch tv (slingbox) on his, why he can't tether to the net, why it's such a slow connection (edge), why you made a 2 yr contract on the most crappy network (cingular) etc etc ..and much much more.

    But its all in what you want. If the features on the iphone are enough for you , then buy it.
    08-09-2007 01:21 PM
  17. vinman's Avatar
    To be fair, there's a number of palm & windows haters as well. Perhaps treo users got fed up hearing how bad the treo was and how the iphone was god's gift to the smartphone world.

    It's not. But it did get people talking and hopefully will speed up improvements. No phone is perfect. The iphone probably can't do half of what a Treo can do but what little it does, the iphone does pretty good except for perhaps email.

    I think treos are a mixed bag. Some get good ones out of the box. Others get buggy ones. Iphones probably are probably more stable and definitely have the cool factor & a unique touch interface. Treos can simply do much more though and aren't as unstable as you might be led to believe. I've not had a reset in weeks.

    Once you get past that pretty interface on the iphone in a week or so, you'll probably start to get bored and wonder where the cool games are, why that treo user can watch tv (slingbox) on his, why he can't tether to the net, why it's such a slow connection (edge), why you made a 2 yr contract on the most crappy network (cingular) etc etc ..and much much more.

    But its all in what you want. If the features on the iphone are enough for you , then buy it.
    Wow - a lot of opinions and assumptions stated as fact there!

    For example, (myself) I never had any desire to watch video on any of my Treos. I did watch a couple on my 8125, but found the overall experience lacking. Video on the iPhone is both watchable and entertaining.

    Yes, we're still lacking resident 3rd party apps, but frankly, there aren't any I miss badly enough to go back to Palm or WM - at this point. It IS an evolving market, though. With all the new consumers the iPhone will bring into the whole "smartphone" market, I'd bet it will be a RAPIDLY evolving market...

    Coming from Palm and WM5, I have found the iPhone to represent the best set of compromises yet for a converged device. All the OSs have strengths and weaknesses. For me and my particular needs, I have no regrets switching to iPhone and it's unique OS and interface. I've had mine for over three weeks now...
    08-09-2007 01:50 PM
  18. mobileman's Avatar
    Once you get past that pretty interface on the iphone in a week or so, you'll probably start to get bored and wonder where the cool games are
    I have about 6 gigs of music, videos, movies, tv shows, and podcasts to keep me from getting "bored" with my iphone.
    08-09-2007 02:33 PM
  19. marcol's Avatar
    Once you get past that pretty interface on the iphone in a week or so, you'll probably start to get bored
    These surveys suggest that's not true for the vast majority of iPhone owners:

    Early iPhone owners are overwhelmingly happy with their devices, a survey out Friday says, and Apple (AAPL) and AT&T (T) are luring customers from rivals as a result.

    In one of the first such studies, 90% of 200 owners said they were "extremely" or "very" satisfied with their phone. And 85% said they are "extremely" or "very" likely to recommend the device to others, says the online survey conducted and paid for by market researcher Interpret of Santa Monica, Calif. The firm surveyed 1,000 cellphone users July 6-10.
    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...2-iphone_N.htm

    The honeymoon isn't over. A little more than a month after the Apple iPhone went on sale, nearly 90 percent of iPhone owners who answered a PC World survey said that they love their almost-new toy. But they also had a few complaints--most notably regarding the iPhone's voice and data networks--and lots of suggestions.
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,13...e/article.html

    90% satisfied is pretty darn good!
    08-09-2007 02:36 PM
  20. cardfan's Avatar
    What do you need a survey for? (considering most iphone users probably never used a treo that's capable of more..of course they're happy coming from a cheap candybar phone) This is coming from a treo user who bought an iphone for wife and took it back. She got bored with it and kept borrowing my Treo. For the first few days it was nifty, but again, once you get past the novelty of the iphone, it's just an ipod phone. The browser is too slow on the road but better than the Treo's..but again..too slow. So instead we bought her a treo. It's just easier and more enjoyable for her to use.

    Since the OP is a treo user, i gave my opinion. Why do iphone users get so defensive?
    08-09-2007 04:04 PM
  21. cmaier's Avatar
    Do you really think 90% of people are satisfied with their treos? Maybe a few years ago (I, for one, used to be incredibly satisfied), but it's not like Palm has been keeping up with HTC and others on the innovation front as of late. And, by the same argument, how many satisfied Treo owners are satisfied only because they never tried an HTC or a Nokia?

    It's fine to say "i tried the iphone, decided I prefer the treo, and here's why" but claiming you know better than the majority of iphone owners and implying, without evidence, that it's because you know more than they do (they never tried a treo!) is a little silly.

    I'm sure lots of people are happy with their treos (heck, if palm had shown some sign of a future for palmos, i'd have held on and waited - but foleo and galdolf are not what i have in mind), just as many former treo owners are happy with their iphones.
    08-09-2007 04:37 PM
  22. mobileman's Avatar
    What do you need a survey for? (considering most iphone users probably never used a treo that's capable of more..of course they're happy coming from a cheap candybar phone) This is coming from a treo user who bought an iphone for wife and took it back. She got bored with it and kept borrowing my Treo. For the first few days it was nifty, but again, once you get past the novelty of the iphone, it's just an ipod phone. The browser is too slow on the road but better than the Treo's..but again..too slow. So instead we bought her a treo. It's just easier and more enjoyable for her to use.

    Since the OP is a treo user, i gave my opinion. Why do iphone users get so defensive?
    I am an ex treo user, and I am not defensive. However, claiming that you get bored of a device that can hold thousands of songs, videos, movies, tv shows, and podcasts after a few days is a little crazy.
    08-09-2007 05:28 PM
  23. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    I think treos are a mixed bag. Some get good ones out of the box. Others get buggy ones.
    This is so true. It's amazing that it's been an ongoing thing for as long as it has.

    Iphones probably are probably more stable and definitely have the cool factor & a unique touch interface. Treos can simply do much more though and aren't as unstable as you might be led to believe. I've not had a reset in weeks.
    I had my 650 to a point where it was very stable, but there still were issues with DBCache. Resets on a Treo are an inevitability, you just have to accept that, the same is true for WM. My iPhone OS hasn't crashed ever, and the crashing of an app doesnt require the phone to be reset, just open the app back up and away you go. I just find the iPhone far less frustrating than the Treo

    Once you get past that pretty interface on the iphone in a week or so, you'll probably start to get bored and wonder where the cool games are
    Games would be nice, but we'll see them eventually. Apple hasn't been working with EA this whole time just so they can put games on iPods.

    why that treo user can watch tv (slingbox) on his
    This feature, and just about every other really cool feature on the Treo, always seemed cluggie to me. It worked, usually, but it was an inelegant way of doing things.

    why he can't tether to the net
    Meh, the hackers have already got this working on the iPhone, but again it was never all that satisfying an experience on the Treo so unless i absolutely need this i cant see the point. I mean I already have a full blown web browser and email client on my iPhone. The reason most people were tethering was because browsing on the Treo, at any speed, was painful.

    why it's such a slow connection (edge)
    Everyone keeps saying this, but for those of us who never used a 3G network (GSM Palm Treo users) the Edge on the iPhone is fantastic. Not only is it faster than it was pre-iPhone, but the iPhone renders full pages faster than my 650 could render a mobile version. I find the speed (120kbps) to be more than usable for browsing and email. Even watching movie trailers on Apples website isnt too bad, though its nice to be able to jump on a wifi spot for this.

    why you made a 2 yr contract on the most crappy network (cingular)
    Here's another complaint I just don't get. I know Cingular doesn't do well in consumer reports and the such, but I've never had a signal issue with them at all. Granted, I've spent most of my time in major cities, but even in rural western NY and western PA i've never had issues.

    But its all in what you want. If the features on the iphone are enough for you , then buy it.
    And this is the point that most of the iPhone haters just refuse to get. Some people need a better browser than WM or POS can supply. Some people need better media management/playback and some people value style. For those people the iPhone is perfect. For the power user that is using their phone for business there are probably better options out there.

    Yes, we're still lacking resident 3rd party apps, but frankly, there aren't any I miss badly enough to go back to Palm or WM - at this point.
    True, but we better see these apps coming soon or some people won't stick with the iPhone. The only app i mis desperately is a password manager which, by the nature of the app, doesnt lend itself to being a web app.
    08-09-2007 05:48 PM
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