1. mikec#IM's Avatar
    I need the BT stack to work, that's one of the drivers MSFT claims may not work on Vista.
    Bluetooth works great on Vista; better than XP.

    Which chipset/driver?

    Broadcom chips and the MS Bluetouth Enumerator seems to have no issues.
    08-13-2007 01:27 PM
  2. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    If I post the list the advisor came up with, will you let me know what you think?
    08-13-2007 02:01 PM
  3. mikec#IM's Avatar
    If I post the list the advisor came up with, will you let me know what you think?
    Sure, I will help if I can.

    It would help to know what laptop you are running (config).
    08-13-2007 02:02 PM
  4. braj's Avatar
    I hate Vista. My lappy came with Vista Ultimate preinstalled and the webcam drivers that are bundled are ****. Every time I plug my lappy back to it's dock it reinstalls the HP printer drivers. If I had my way I would have gotten a machine with XP installed instead, or better yet a MacBook Pro like I knew I should have gotten at the time anyway. I really like my HP laptop hardware which is a semi-truck sized beast (nice having another HDD bay and huge screen) with great fit and finish, especially for it's enormous size. A comparable Mac would have cost $1000 more, but at least it wouldn't be running Windows. I'm afraid by the time I need a new lappy again I'll have all but forgotten this lesson.
    08-13-2007 02:09 PM
  5. mikec#IM's Avatar
    I hate Vista. My lappy came with Vista Ultimate preinstalled and the webcam drivers that are bundled are ****. Every time I plug my lappy back to it's dock it reinstalls the HP printer drivers. If I had my way I would have gotten a machine with XP installed instead, or better yet a MacBook Pro like I knew I should have gotten at the time anyway. I really like my HP laptop hardware which is a semi-truck sized beast (nice having another HDD bay and huge screen) with great fit and finish, especially for it's enormous size. A comparable Mac would have cost $1000 more, but at least it wouldn't be running Windows. I'm afraid by the time I need a new lappy again I'll have all but forgotten this lesson.
    What latptop did you buy?

    Docks...yuck.

    That dock behavior is odd for sure.
    08-13-2007 02:13 PM
  6. Freak4Dell's Avatar
    If you really hate it that much, why not just reformat and install XP?
    08-13-2007 02:16 PM
  7. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    OK, here we go, it looks like Windows is unable to tell me if anything of these will work:

    Review these device issues for Windows Vista
    Check the following table for device issues you should address to ensure they will work properly with Windows Vista. Issue Type Category Model Manufacturer Action Required

    Bluetooth ACPI from TOSHIBA Toshiba After installing Windows Vista, this device will require an updated driver. To obtain the latest driver, go to the device manufacturer's website or contact you retailer.

    Cannot find information on these devices
    The following table contains devices for which we have no information. Category Model Manufacturer Action Required

    TOSHIBA RAID Virtual Device TOSHIBA CORPORATION There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Toshiba BT Port Toshiba There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Intel Wireless Connection Agent Miniport Intel Corporation There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Kaspersky Anti-Virus NDIS Miniport Kaspersky Lab There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    WAN Miniport (ATW) America Online, Inc. There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    TOSHIBA ACPI-Compliant Value Added Logical and General Purpose Device TOSHIBA There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    pcouffin device for 32 bits systems VSO Software There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Bluetooth RFCOMM from TOSHIBA TOSHIBA There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller Texas Instruments Inc There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.
    08-13-2007 03:11 PM
  8. braj's Avatar
    If you really hate it that much, why not just reformat and install XP?
    Because I hate XP almost as much?

    I just don't have time to deal with it right now. Bottom line is that it is acceptable enough right now, and possibly a bunch of tweaks and optimizations probably could be done by me to get it working perfectly. Throw into the mix the fact that I got a 64bit AMD lappy and that may have something to do with it as well.

    I have a HP DV9000. It's really nice in many ways and I like the dock since it is one cable to detach instead of 7 or 8.

    The bottom line is I would have been happier with a Mac. It was through shopping by specs that I ended up with Windows and I really should have weighed other considerations more heavily. It is all the little things that make a difference for each of us in our preferences, whether it is a phone, car, computer or girlfriend. I'm not saying Macs are better, but I think in my case it would have been better for me personally. For others it could be completely opposite.
    08-13-2007 04:18 PM
  9. mikec#IM's Avatar
    OK, here we go, it looks like Windows is unable to tell me if anything of these will work:

    Review these device issues for Windows Vista
    Check the following table for device issues you should address to ensure they will work properly with Windows Vista. Issue Type Category Model Manufacturer Action Required

    Bluetooth ACPI from TOSHIBA Toshiba After installing Windows Vista, this device will require an updated driver. To obtain the latest driver, go to the device manufacturer's website or contact you retailer.

    Cannot find information on these devices
    The following table contains devices for which we have no information. Category Model Manufacturer Action Required

    TOSHIBA RAID Virtual Device TOSHIBA CORPORATION There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Toshiba BT Port Toshiba There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Intel Wireless Connection Agent Miniport Intel Corporation There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Kaspersky Anti-Virus NDIS Miniport Kaspersky Lab There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    WAN Miniport (ATW) America Online, Inc. There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    TOSHIBA ACPI-Compliant Value Added Logical and General Purpose Device TOSHIBA There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    pcouffin device for 32 bits systems VSO Software There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Bluetooth RFCOMM from TOSHIBA TOSHIBA There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.

    Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller Texas Instruments Inc There is no compatibility data available for this device. For more information, go to the device manufacturer's website or Windows Marketplace, or contact your retailer.
    What laptop is this?
    08-13-2007 04:19 PM
  10. braj's Avatar
    What latptop did you buy?

    Docks...yuck.

    That dock behavior is odd for sure.
    Yeah, the dock also has issues when going from my 22" external to just the laptop monitor, and then back. One or both of the monitors will be at the wrong resolution and I'll have to manually change them. PITA.

    Also, waking from sleep still sucks in Windows. On a Mac you can just shut the lappy, it goes to sleep. Open it, it wakes instantly. Inside the bag it stays cool. Windows is still hit and miss. OS X just works better in this one particular regard.
    08-13-2007 04:24 PM
  11. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    Qosmio, the G25 one. I updated the RAM to 1.5, but I also can upgrade to 2GB.

    What laptop is this?
    08-13-2007 04:55 PM
  12. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    Because I hate XP almost as much?

    I just don't have time to deal with it right now. Bottom line is that it is acceptable enough right now, and possibly a bunch of tweaks and optimizations probably could be done by me to get it working perfectly. Throw into the mix the fact that I got a 64bit AMD lappy and that may have something to do with it as well.

    I have a HP DV9000. It's really nice in many ways and I like the dock since it is one cable to detach instead of 7 or 8.

    The bottom line is I would have been happier with a Mac. It was through shopping by specs that I ended up with Windows and I really should have weighed other considerations more heavily. It is all the little things that make a difference for each of us in our preferences, whether it is a phone, car, computer or girlfriend. I'm not saying Macs are better, but I think in my case it would have been better for me personally. For others it could be completely opposite.
    I personally think AMD is just as good as Intel with enough RAM. You may have Ultimate on that model and that needs 4GB.

    So you're Macbook Pro material it seems, . What're you going to do with the HP if you get a Macbook Pro?
    08-13-2007 05:16 PM
  13. braj's Avatar
    I personally think AMD is just as good as Intel with enough RAM. You may have Ultimate on that model and that needs 4GB.

    So you're Macbook Pro material it seems, . What're you going to do with the HP if you get a Macbook Pro?
    My wife will have something to say about that I'm afraid But I'm in the process of sourcing a comp. to be the home entertainment system box, I might get a Mac Mini after Leopard comes out for that, and thus get my Mac cravings out of the way.
    08-13-2007 05:19 PM
  14. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    if you get a good price for the HP, that'll defray some of the cost of the Macbook Pro.
    08-13-2007 05:23 PM
  15. braj's Avatar
    if you get a good price for the HP, that'll defray some of the cost of the Macbook Pro.
    Yeah, but the MacBook is still $1000 more. I want a new TV, car, paint the house, carpets, big sack of nugs, so many competing priorities...
    08-13-2007 05:25 PM
  16. mikec#IM's Avatar
    Qosmio, the G25 one. I updated the RAM to 1.5, but I also can upgrade to 2GB.
    Hmm...if Toshiba doesn't offer the driver, there is not a lot that can be done.

    I can tell you the VSO software works okay in Vista, so there's no issue there.

    I would also think the Intel stuff would be okay.

    All I can suggest is (and you have probably done this) is:

    - Contact Toshiba and ask about Vista Drivers for your laptop
    - Look up specific hardware and manufacturer and see if they have a driver.

    Was this a "Vista Capable" or "Vista Ready" laptop? That makes a difference (and likely the support from Toshiba as well).

    The other method is to backup an image of the laptop (ex. Ghost or Acronis TrueImage), and then wipe and do a clena Vista install on the laptop and see what you need. Obviously, this would suck a lot of time, but it's the only way to be sure, short of drivers.

    That laptop is about 2 years old, right? Honestly, I wouldn't put Vista on anything less than a Dual Core, and a laptop less than a year old. Unless there is something compelling you to go to Vista.
    08-14-2007 12:07 PM
  17. bruckwine's Avatar
    I hate Vista. My lappy came with Vista Ultimate preinstalled and the webcam drivers that are bundled are ****. Every time I plug my lappy back to it's dock it reinstalls the HP printer drivers. If I had my way I would have gotten a machine with XP installed instead, or better yet a MacBook Pro like I knew I should have gotten at the time anyway. I really like my HP laptop hardware which is a semi-truck sized beast (nice having another HDD bay and huge screen) with great fit and finish, especially for it's enormous size. A comparable Mac would have cost $1000 more, but at least it wouldn't be running Windows. I'm afraid by the time I need a new lappy again I'll have all but forgotten this lesson.
    Just wipe the harddrive adn install XP and/or ubuntu (Linux) - simple no?
    08-16-2007 06:48 PM
  18. mikec#IM's Avatar
    ubuntu is African for "time sucker", right?

    I like messing with it as much as the next person, but linux desktop still has a long way to go.

    I keep hoping the next distro will improve.
    08-16-2007 08:14 PM
  19. Malatesta's Avatar
    ubuntu is African for "time sucker", right?

    I like messing with it as much as the next person, but linux desktop still has a long way to go.

    I keep hoping the next distro will improve.
    lol

    I agree. Linux seems fun but...too much time to invest. Heck even Linspire aka Lindows required a bit of involvement.
    08-16-2007 08:30 PM
  20. mobileman's Avatar
    It seems MikeC isn't the only one going to Apple stores to check on sales. Word is sales are on track or higher than expectations.

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...n_the_way.html

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ectations.html
    08-22-2007 10:42 AM
  21. Kupe#WP's Avatar
    It seems MikeC isn't the only one going to Apple stores to check on sales. Word is sales are on track or higher than expectations.
    Great news for stockholders...unless there's some reason they're not reporting iPhone returns/cancellations?
    08-22-2007 02:52 PM
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