Where is this wondrous ignore button?
That absolutely sucks, in my opinion. How much more money does Jobs want?
If Oalveraz is your backup, you are a sad sack indeed. Again Napolean got nothing on you.
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this is a forum for god's sake, not gang warfare, but perhaps to you it is.
just give up....or quit while you're not ahead. it will be so much better for all of us.
Yes, after 400 charges (and this number accounts for what would equate to full charges), that puts me at about 2 years - depending on how my usage continues over the next 2 years. I think those last few months I could put up with the battery approaching 80% of its original capacity; especially given that there will probably still be no other manufacturer that can touch this kind of battery efficiency and battery life that Apple provides in the iPhone."Apple says the iPhone battery is good for between 300 to 400 charges before performance will start to decline, which generally is the case for any lithium-ion battery over time."
300-400 charge cycles before performance starts to decline? It doesn't say the battery will fail after 300-400 cycles. With these numbers, it's easy to imagine the device lasting 18-24 months before needing to replace the battery. Not only will we have other battery replacement options by then, we'll all be drooling over the next cool device out there. You don't honestly think this particular iPhone will be your last smartphone, do you?
Yes, after 400 charges (and this number accounts for what would equate to full charges), that puts me at about 2 years - depending on how my usage continues over the next 2 years. I think those last few months I could put up with the battery approaching 80% of its original capacity; especially given that there will probably still be no other manufacturer that can touch this kind of battery efficiency and battery life that Apple provides in the iPhone.
And you are going to give me an example of someone that can match it... ???Archie, you're back!
And even more audacious, unsupported comments, such as "no other manufacturer that can touch this kind of battery efficiency and battery life that Apple provides in the iPhone"
And in about 3 or 4 years I might still have an iPhone that will be approaching 700 recharges and will still be doing its job. What is your point?Sorry to burst your bubble - I've have two Treo batteries that I have run from 100% to empty about 700 times each (at least), and they are still doing the job.
Why do you always post crap like this? I said, as you so quoted yourself, "no other manufacturer that can touch this kind of battery efficiency and battery life that Apple provides in the iPhone."Apple's RDF does not extend to invent new battery technology - they use what is in the market.
And you are going to give me an example of someone that can match it... ???
And in about 3 or 4 years I might still have an iPhone that will be approaching 700 recharges and will still be doing its job. What is your point?
My point is that Apple can make a battery that is a mere one quarter the size of the smallest Treo battery last twice as long as the Treo's line of longest performing battery and be driving more things in that time than any Treo every will.
You can take that to the bank.
Why do you always post crap like this? I said, as you so quoted yourself, "no other manufacturer that can touch this kind of battery efficiency and battery life that Apple provides in the iPhone."
Do you not understand what I say? I didn't say anything about battery technology, I said Apple can use batteries far more efficiently than other phone manufacturers.
Did you not just read what I said. I don't make this **** up and I never said Apple made the battery. Chemistry! Don't care. It's about what Apple does with the battery and what other companies cannot figure out.I figure if Archie and you (Mikec) were stuck with me in an elevator, my head might explode.
Archie: you're a little over-the-top on the superlatives. By all accounts it's a pretty decent battery (unless you get a defective one out of the box) , but it's not the best battery ever invented, and I'm sure it's chemistry is not substantially different than any other Li-poly battery.
I could tell you what I am getting for battery life, but we all know that would be futile, don't we.I also don't think the OS is any more efficient than Palm OS, e.g. (and I'm happy to explain why, but no one cares). The chipset may be more power efficient, given that it is more modern, than many other phones. Altogether a nice job of engineering. But I haven't seen anything too astounding other than in comparison to Palm, which seems to have stopped their hardware engineering about 3 years ago.
For example, in my first day of use, using some wi-fi, some edge, making some calls, and generally playing around with it, the battery dropped around 80%. I think my treo would have dropped about the same percentage (but, of course, it doesn't have wi-fi.)
Your own words:
"My point is that Apple can make a battery that is a mere one quarter the size of the smallest Treo battery last twice as long as the Treo's line of longest performing battery and be driving more things in that time than any Treo every will. You can take that to the bank."
mikec, you and I both know that Apple doesn't make batteries and to insinuate that I think otherwise is asinine and a character defacing.You say Apple makes batteries...but they don't. (I could ask why you post doo-doo like that, but I already know.)
Mathmatics.Dude, where do you get that 300-400mAH figure?
True, some are not up to the specs, but those seem to be defective or early samples of the supply. Apple has exchanged them all .
Yes. That is to say Apple exchanges the iPhone/battery if the customer brings one of these subpar batteries in that does not live up to it's published specs. There may of course still be some unreturned iPhones with these initial samplings (or whatever the reason is) but the number is not nearly as high as the first few days.i like to think i'm a realist, or employ sound logic but this one i'm having a little bit of
difficulty with.
"Apple has exchanged them all?" ok, fine. i suppose that could mean (imply) that each and every defective phone (no matter of the defect) was successfully exchanged as opposed to accepting them back with an early restocking fee, or without.
is that the point you're trying to make or are you saying that each and every iPhone battery related instance has been dealt with, and exchanged with a new one?
can one infer such?