1. Bri Guy's Avatar
    I bought an iPhone the night of release. Long-time Palm user here (10 years, numerous devices, tried the 680 and 750, went back to my 650). I felt compelled to share some thoughts about this whole experience. First, some groundwork:

    I just bought a MacBook Pro about 2 weeks ago. I've used an Apple before, but this is my first real plunge (whole-hearted) into Mac and OSX and away from Windows. I absolutely am in LOVE with my Mac. I suppose it took the Intel processor to finally make me comfortable with the switch.

    Now, the iPhone. I've been reading numerous posts, pros and cons, about the iPhone, how it's better or worse than a Treo, ad nauseum. I have spent untold hours (days, months, maybe even years ) customizing, "tweaking", and basically molding my Palm devices to meet my needs. It's been fun and infuriating at the same time (nothing like a hard-reset to get the blood pumping). What I have found with the iPhone is... simplicity. What I've always valued about Palm's interface is... simplicity. That being said, what I find most liberating about the iPhone is that it's simple, intuitive and effective right out of the box. No tweaking required (or allowed, at this point).

    But what about all those precious 3rd party apps I'm no longer able to use on my Palm?!? Well, to tell you the truth... I think I slowly and inevitably became a SLAVE to those 3rd party apps over the past 10 years. I found that over the years, like a cluttered basement or attic, I found it hard to let go of ANY app I had acquired, whether I used it or not! Thus, my Treo became a bloated "hoarder" of software that I rarely, if ever, used. I've taken a good, hard look at my Treo apps and realize that with exception of my daily use of the PIM, I use just a couple apps on my Treo that I've found suitable replacements for online (yes, I use Safari on my iPhone to access similar programs available for free on websites).

    I have no doubt that the iPhone will be improved, functionality will be added, and I'm looking forward to riding that wave. For now, I can honestly say that the iPhone is an amazing device right out of the box, no tweaking required, and it's extraordinarily refreshing to have cleaned out the attic, shoveled out the basement, and embrace the simplicity of a device that just plain works.
    07-02-2007 10:32 PM
  2. MacUser's Avatar
    I just bought a MacBook Pro about 2 weeks ago. I've used an Apple before, but this is my first real plunge (whole-hearted) into Mac and OSX and away from Windows. I absolutely am in LOVE with my Mac. I suppose it took the Intel processor to finally make me comfortable with the switch.

    Now, the iPhone. I've been reading numerous posts, pros and cons, about the iPhone, how it's better or worse than a Treo, ad nauseum. I have spent untold hours (days, months, maybe even years ) customizing, "tweaking", and basically molding my Palm devices to meet my needs. It's been fun and infuriating at the same time (nothing like a hard-reset to get the blood pumping). What I have found with the iPhone is... simplicity. What I've always valued about Palm's interface is... simplicity. That being said, what I find most liberating about the iPhone is that it's simple, intuitive and effective right out of the box. No tweaking required (or allowed, at this point).

    But what about all those precious 3rd party apps I'm no longer able to use on my Palm?!? Well, to tell you the truth... I think I slowly and inevitably became a SLAVE to those 3rd party apps over the past 10 years. I found that over the years, like a cluttered basement or attic, I found it hard to let go of ANY app I had acquired, whether I used it or not! Thus, my Treo became a bloated "hoarder" of software that I rarely, if ever, used. I've taken a good, hard look at my Treo apps and realize that with exception of my daily use of the PIM, I use just a couple apps on my Treo that I've found suitable replacements for online (yes, I use Safari on my iPhone to access similar programs available for free on websites).

    I have no doubt that the iPhone will be improved, functionality will be added, and I'm looking forward to riding that wave. For now, I can honestly say that the iPhone is an amazing device right out of the box, no tweaking required, and it's extraordinarily refreshing to have cleaned out the attic, shoveled out the basement, and embrace the simplicity of a device that just plain works.
    Great post. I'm glad you like your MBP. It's a great machine.

    I agree on the bloated feeling. I'm excited to think about the updates down the road.

    PS I just loaded Batman Returns & Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon on my iPhone. What a beautiful screen! The phone is an instant ice breaker
    07-02-2007 10:51 PM
  3. Bri Guy's Avatar
    Great post. I'm glad you like your MBP. It's a great machine.

    I agree on the bloated feeling. I'm excited to think about the updates down the road.

    PS I just loaded Batman Returns & Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon on my iPhone. What a beautiful screen! The phone is an instant ice breaker
    Thanks for your response! Ok, I haven't used the video feature of my iPhone yet. How did you get Batman Begins and CT,HD on your iPhone? Any compression required? Did you download it from iTunes? I'm excited to give it a try!
    07-02-2007 10:57 PM
  4. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    Since you're on a Mac try the application called Handbrake, http://handbrake.m0k.org/ This will allow you to rip movies off DVDs and you can then drop them into iTunes. Once it's in there just sync it to the iPhone and enjoy.
    07-02-2007 11:00 PM
  5. MacUser's Avatar
    Since you're on a Mac try the application called Handbrake, http://handbrake.m0k.org/ This will allow you to rip movies off DVDs and you can then drop them into iTunes. Once it's in there just sync it to the iPhone and enjoy.
    Yup...you can use the default Apple TV setting, then go into Video settings and change the height to 320. It'll result in a movie about 800MB in size. Gorgeous on the iPhone
    07-02-2007 11:04 PM
  6. Bri Guy's Avatar
    Thanks, Antelope and MacUser! I'll get right on it. I'm still a babe in the woods (Mac-wise), but I'm loving every intuitive-quality-simple minute of it!
    07-02-2007 11:06 PM
  7. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    If you want any further help with Mac software just post in a relevant category or drop me a note, i'll be glad to help.
    07-02-2007 11:23 PM
  8. MacUser's Avatar
    Yeah, Mac people are a considerate bunch.
    07-02-2007 11:33 PM
  9. Bri Guy's Avatar
    I'm thankful for the offers to help! I'm sure there will be things that pop up now and then and I may have an inquiry or two. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the world of Apple. I will still watch with interest to see what Palm will do in the coming months. I don't think I'll forever abandon them (I've invested far too much time and $$$ in software ), but I'm soooooooo relieved to have cleaned out the attic and basement --- it's nice to start fresh!
    07-03-2007 01:06 AM
  10. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    I hear ya, my 650 is still in my Seidio cradle running TomTom in my car. If Palm hadn't constantly disappointed me i probably would have passed on the iPhone and waited for a 3G, Palm based, GSM phone.
    07-03-2007 08:09 AM
  11. nyc_rock's Avatar
    It will be interesting to see what everyones feeling are in the next two weeks. It takes a while to really get to know a device. Menu's that seem intuitive now can be come a pain later. The liberation of the clean interface can become a downer as you realize how limmited the device is. I cant get the iphone since att still doesnt service where I live (50 miles north of NYC), but I will stay tuned out of interest of all things digital.
    07-03-2007 08:09 AM
  12. Bri Guy's Avatar
    Last night I manually transferred several of my Memos from my 650 into Notes on my iPhone. At first I was intimidated by some of the negative comments I've seen posted about difficulty in using the iPhone's virtual keyboard. Although requiring a small learning curve, I was very impressed with the iPhone's "smart" text entry. As an experiment, I decided to stop watching what was appearing in my Notes (lots and lots of typos!) and focus on just typing the best that I could. To my delight, the iPhone did an excellent job figuring out what I wanted to type and corrected most, if not all, of my mistakes. I can honestly say that I'm about as fast typing on the iPhone as I've ever been on my Treo. I just think it's important to give it a chance.
    07-03-2007 10:53 AM
  13. pdadoc's Avatar
    I'm seriously considering move from verizon 700P to iPhone. I'm a long time "power" user, and will definitely miss some treo apps, but not the headaches. One specific app I'll miss is Kinoma (or powertunes), which allows for streaming of many radio stations. I assume the iPhone won't even allow streaming of radiostations from their websites, as most of these require either real audio or windows media player... is that correct?
    07-03-2007 01:42 PM
  14. RadMonkeyX's Avatar
    Great stuff Bri. I am currenlty looking at converting to a Mac also and an Iphone. I currently have the 750. Iphone seems to do everything i need. Thanks for your thoughts so far, good stuff
    07-03-2007 02:20 PM
  15. cmaier's Avatar
    I feel the same way. I enjoy writing my own palm software, so I hold out hope for a real SDK eventually, but pretty much the only third party software I use regularly is chatter, solitaire, and keysuite. When I'm bored, I use Express to read the news. And I use a time tracker to keep track of hours spent on work projects for various clients. I'll rewrite that as a web app (it won't require any real bandwidth, so speed should be fine) and then the only thing I'll really miss is solitaire :-)

    And I suspect some games will be coming soon enough... (solitaire seems such a natural for that iphone interface).
    07-03-2007 02:48 PM
  16. renn#IM's Avatar
    Good to read the review of a Palm user. Thank you. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
    07-03-2007 03:30 PM
  17. bcaslis#IM's Avatar
    I agree with what you have said. I went through the 270 / 600 / 650 / 700w / 700p / 750 / 680 and finally had enough of problems & bugs. I got a Motorola Q to wait until the iPhone mainly for it's better bluetooth.

    I got it on Friday night and love it. It's the best handheld device (at least for my needs) I've ever had. It's not perfect and it doesn't do everything but that's one of it's strengths. It doesn't try to do everything, just the important things and do them well. That used to be the strength of Palm devices but they somehow lost that along the way. At least with the iPhone I'll bet money that we get timely updates from Apple, unlike the sorry history of Palm updates for the past couple of years.

    I bought an iPhone the night of release. Long-time Palm user here (10 years, numerous devices, tried the 680 and 750, went back to my 650). I felt compelled to share some thoughts about this whole experience. First, some groundwork:

    I just bought a MacBook Pro about 2 weeks ago. I've used an Apple before, but this is my first real plunge (whole-hearted) into Mac and OSX and away from Windows. I absolutely am in LOVE with my Mac. I suppose it took the Intel processor to finally make me comfortable with the switch.

    Now, the iPhone. I've been reading numerous posts, pros and cons, about the iPhone, how it's better or worse than a Treo, ad nauseum. I have spent untold hours (days, months, maybe even years ) customizing, "tweaking", and basically molding my Palm devices to meet my needs. It's been fun and infuriating at the same time (nothing like a hard-reset to get the blood pumping). What I have found with the iPhone is... simplicity. What I've always valued about Palm's interface is... simplicity. That being said, what I find most liberating about the iPhone is that it's simple, intuitive and effective right out of the box. No tweaking required (or allowed, at this point).

    But what about all those precious 3rd party apps I'm no longer able to use on my Palm?!? Well, to tell you the truth... I think I slowly and inevitably became a SLAVE to those 3rd party apps over the past 10 years. I found that over the years, like a cluttered basement or attic, I found it hard to let go of ANY app I had acquired, whether I used it or not! Thus, my Treo became a bloated "hoarder" of software that I rarely, if ever, used. I've taken a good, hard look at my Treo apps and realize that with exception of my daily use of the PIM, I use just a couple apps on my Treo that I've found suitable replacements for online (yes, I use Safari on my iPhone to access similar programs available for free on websites).

    I have no doubt that the iPhone will be improved, functionality will be added, and I'm looking forward to riding that wave. For now, I can honestly say that the iPhone is an amazing device right out of the box, no tweaking required, and it's extraordinarily refreshing to have cleaned out the attic, shoveled out the basement, and embrace the simplicity of a device that just plain works.
    07-04-2007 03:41 AM
  18. MacUser's Avatar
    I feel the same way. I enjoy writing my own palm software, so I hold out hope for a real SDK eventually, but pretty much the only third party software I use regularly is chatter, solitaire, and keysuite. When I'm bored, I use Express to read the news. And I use a time tracker to keep track of hours spent on work projects for various clients. I'll rewrite that as a web app (it won't require any real bandwidth, so speed should be fine) and then the only thing I'll really miss is solitaire :-)

    And I suspect some games will be coming soon enough... (solitaire seems such a natural for that iphone interface).
    Call me crazy, but I feel that Apple will release some apps via iTunes store. Especially important is a secure password app. Think of the revenues
    07-04-2007 09:12 AM
  19. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    Especially important is a secure password app. Think of the revenues
    Agreed, this is an app that i wont be able to do without for long...
    07-04-2007 09:48 AM
  20. jay_man2's Avatar
    I'm seriously considering move from verizon 700P to iPhone. I'm a long time "power" user, and will definitely miss some treo apps, but not the headaches. One specific app I'll miss is Kinoma (or powertunes), which allows for streaming of many radio stations. I assume the iPhone won't even allow streaming of radiostations from their websites, as most of these require either real audio or windows media player... is that correct?
    On my 700p on Sprint I could use my online XM Radio account through mobile.musicdock.com. I tried that on the iPhone, and while it appears like it might work, the "media player" never starts up.

    Oh well, the iPhone is better as a phone than the 700p, and while there are some things I miss, like icons for the monthly calendar view in DayBook V, and cut/paste functionality, I much prefer the interface on the iPhone, and syncing to iCal etc. on my Mac.
    07-04-2007 09:56 AM
  21. stadanko#WN's Avatar
    Former Palm Fanboi here.... No more.
    Had the 600 / 650 / 700p. Support from Palm on the Verizon 700p has been nonexistant There hasn't been any at all.

    As a result, I'll never spend another dollar on a Palm product again.

    iPhone has been great since I picked it up. Not one reboot. All my calls seems to get through. No lockups, lag etc... Bluetooth in the Mercedes works great and even pushes my address book over to the car (unlike the Treo).

    I can't believe that I put up with the Treo and their BS for so long. They basically strung all of us along for a year with the 700p blaming everybody but themselves.

    Looking forward working with a product that is packaged to be supported by the developer as opposed to what we've come to expect from Palm.

    My goal is to tell one person of Palm's disgusting support for the 700p for each reboot, lag out, lockup that I experienced. Hopefully they'll tell their friends... and so on and so on... I'm confident that I have personally talked at least 20 people out of buying a Palm Handset in the last two months. Makes me feel better for spending over $2000 on software, accessories etc on Palm.

    People ask me "Is that the Treo? or Is that the Palm?" My reply is yeah... "It's a piece of **** ! Stay away. Better off with some tin cans and string."

    Pay it forward I say ! Back at ya Palm ! Thanks for the memories !

    Hello Apple !
    07-04-2007 10:04 AM
  22. tortilla's Avatar
    Call me crazy, but I feel that Apple will release some apps via iTunes store. Especially important is a secure password app. Think of the revenues
    This is the only app I miss from my Treo. I'll be in line with my credit card if Apple or a 3rd party in the future can come out with an elegant version. To be honest I had SplashID and although it did its job, it didn't have a great interface.

    Bri,

    I'm a convert to Apple too. I'm on my second one with the MacBook Pro which I think I'm in love with. If you need any help with anything, feel free to ask me.

    One place I like to browse is www.iusethis.com. I have discovered a lot of cool apps there.

    Also take a look at Quicksilver, it's kind of like a program launcher but it does so much more...http://quicksilver.blacktree.com/. The learning curve is somewhat steep, but it's like an extension of my brain on my mac. You can find tutorials here: http://theappleblog.com/2006/02/14/q...ials-round-up/

    ME:
    Treo 600 -> 650 -> 755p -> iPhone
    07-04-2007 11:41 AM
  23. naftalim's Avatar
    Treo 750v owner here, Palmie since 1999. I am seriously considering the iPhone once it comes to Canada. One app I do like on the PDAs other than the iPhone is a NewsReader (Newsbreak is what I use) Is there/will there be such an app for iPhone? I assume with all the interest for this device, somone will come up with something.
    07-04-2007 05:32 PM
  24. bcaslis#IM's Avatar
    I'm not familiar with newsreader, I'm guessing that it's RSS newfeeds? There isn't anything like that yet, but you can set a bunch of bookmarks to RSS feeds, and when you click the bookmark you get a display just like that in Safari on a Mac or PC.

    Treo 750v owner here, Palmie since 1999. I am seriously considering the iPhone once it comes to Canada. One app I do like on the PDAs other than the iPhone is a NewsReader (Newsbreak is what I use) Is there/will there be such an app for iPhone? I assume with all the interest for this device, somone will come up with something.
    07-04-2007 10:24 PM
  25. cmaier's Avatar
    does google reader work?
    07-04-2007 10:33 PM
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