1. mikec#IM's Avatar
    To be fair there are positive reviews there as well. I liked the comment that the OP was maybe a bit fat and that is why Bt couldn't reach when in his pocket To me $130 is too much for something you could easily lose (and that probably will be surpassed technically in 6 months anyway). I'd go for some good wired 2 in 1 headsets myself. Spend the money on the speakers instead on the BT.
    BT in general is sucky protocol in general. It's been around forever, and never done well (as well as the theory).

    Maybe BT 3.0 will solve all our problems....
    07-26-2007 07:04 PM
  2. treobk214's Avatar
    Let's all take a step back here folks. Does it not appear that the ones who are angriest with the iphone and most intent on instigating here are the windows crowd?

    Regarding letting.... it.... go. Why haven't you taken your own advice? Seems all you guys do here is bash the iphone ALL day long and you talk about not being able to let... it... go?

    Now the n-word comment? You just keep hanging yourself the more you talk.

    This is priceless. Apple's arrogance has absolutely nothing on the windoze drones here.
    07-26-2007 07:11 PM
  3. surur's Avatar
    Now dont tell me there's no way to switch of the GSM radio while leaving WIFI on. Thats just plain primitive. It must be wrong (or is it revenue protection?)

    - way to switch cell phone off but wifi on

    justdhruv 07-26-2007 12:30 AM

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    way to switch cell phone off but wifi on

    Is there a way of switching of the cell phone but keeping the wifi on?

    I think the iphone uses up battery to search for available cell networks.

    This could be useful where there no at&t coverage.

    unity 07-26-2007 08:30 AM

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    Originally Posted by justdhruv (Post 3963415)
    Is there a way of switching of the cell phone but keeping the wifi on?

    I think the iphone uses up battery to search for available cell networks.

    This could be useful where there no at&t coverage.
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    Just take out the sim card. Do so with phone off though, or you may fry it. It will work fine without it.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=334029

    Surur
    07-26-2007 07:14 PM
  4. mobileman's Avatar
    Reality (the information presented that day) was disappointing to those who predicted significantly higher numbers.
    who predicted significantly higher numbers for the first 30 hours? Was it Apple? Your comments were a clear indication that you took AT&Ts activation numbers and turned the into a negative launch for apple. You can cry all you want now MikeC, but thats what you implied. Since Apple reported their numbers you have ofcourse distanced yourself from your earlier "fanboy" statements. I'm glad. I'm alot more interested in your first hand reporting from the mall.
    07-26-2007 07:17 PM
  5. mobileman's Avatar
    A more on topic post - even Apple's bluetooth headset sucks.


    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=333369

    Surur

    Kind of strange how Macrumors has plenty of postive reviews of the Bluetooth headset, but you picked out this one. Come on Surur, I expect this from the types like MikeC, but I thought you were above this.
    07-26-2007 07:19 PM
  6. mobileman's Avatar
    Is it my imagination, or are these problems getting worse as the device ages? Last week it was just apps crashing, now the whole device is locking up. At least a soft reset always fixes it...

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=333839


    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=333839

    Surur
    Wow, you mean Blackberry, Windows Mobile, Symbian and Palm dont have monopolies on phones that freeze? This is shocking news. I was totally expecting Apple to be the first phone maker ever that was able to have a device that never needs a reset.
    07-26-2007 07:23 PM
  7. treobk214's Avatar
    I start with a flamebait?

    I "started" by responding to your post, where you say things like:

    So we have "apple envy", " 'doze fanboys" and then you accuse me of psychoanalyzing (which was sarcasm, hence my reference to Jack as in JackNaylor).

    But your post is not flamebaiting? Is it fact?

    That's where it "started", so get your facts straight. Also

    (1) How did I insult "some" Apple users?
    (2) Who cares if I did? I didn't make any ad-hominem attacks. Are Apple users above critique? Are you their defender?
    (3) Does posting something which you disagree count as flamebaiting? My we're sensitive.

    Like I said, if you have a problem with my posts take it up with a Moderator and see if they agree with you. :thumbsup: Otherwise, blow.

    I think by now, your constant responses to my posts are painting you as the stalker/flamebaiter, since you just can't let...it...go.
    I thought you didn't read my posts?

    Observation and comment. You should really take up the English language and comprehension. It would make serving those fries more exciting for ya.
    The comment quoted above is what Im talking about. That was where it started, and then you jump onboard later. Get YOUR facts straight, Mal.
    07-26-2007 07:24 PM
  8. mobileman's Avatar
    some people buy Macs to show that they can afford them, just like the motivation behind buying lots of other high end products. And some are insecure that they made a bad deal and need to convince themselves and others that they didn't.
    This wins the award for dumbest post of the day (outside anything MikeC posts ofcourse).
    07-26-2007 07:25 PM
  9. surur's Avatar
    Kind of strange how Macrumors has plenty of postive reviews of the Bluetooth headset, but you picked out this one. Come on Surur, I expect this from the types like MikeC, but I thought you were above this.
    Actually there are many reviews saying it sucks. I just prefer forum postings.

    Here's slashgear's review.

    Apple Bluetooth Headset arrives - looks arent everything
    Tuesday, Jul 24th 2007 by Chris Scott Barr

    So Apple has finally gotten around to releasing their Bluetooth Headset for the iPhone. The iPhone has already been out for a month now, and I suspect that many people have already purchased a different headset. However, for those that have been waiting, or still on the fence about what headset to get, our own Vincent Nguyen has gotten himself one, and put it to the test.

    First, its tiny. We all knew it was small, but it was much smaller than he expected. Not so small that it falls out of your ear mind you, just small. Pairing it up with the iPhone took no effort whatsoever, it just happened automatically.


    Unfortunately, thats when the honeymoon ended. During test calls to different individuals the sound quality was considered very poor, and he was quickly asked if he was talking on speakerphone. Also, a low level white noise could also be heard throughout conversations.


    Apples Bluetooth Headset definitely gets high marks for style and ease of use, however, the poor audio quality will likely be enough to sway most people away. Vincent will be conducting further tests in the coming days to give us the most thorough review possible.

    Video: Unboxing the Apple iPhone Bluetooth Headset and hands-on review [via
    http://www.slashgear.com/apple-bluet...ing-246389.php

    As usual, style over function.

    Surur
    07-26-2007 07:26 PM
  10. mobileman's Avatar
    I think you need to provide a little evidence if you want to state something as fact, rather than your opinion.

    Here are the past eight years:

    http://www.cxoadvisory.com/gurus/Cohen/

    You offered her as an analyst who is right most of the time. Obviously, this is not true, although she may be "more right" (but still wrong) than her peers.
    Samkin, be very careful when arguing facts about the stock market with MikeC. As evidence to his posts here, he has an immense knowledge on the subject. He even does his own field research by interviewing apple store employees about sales.
    07-26-2007 07:27 PM
  11. cmaier's Avatar
    I actually just received the bluetooth headset this afternoon. Other than it not quite being a comfortable fit, it seems fine to me. Much better than the jabra thing I had. Sounds fine. Integrates with the phone in interesting ways (volume controlled by phone, battery indicator appears on phone, pairs by placing in the combo dock - it even turns the bluetooth on the phone on if it was disabled when you stick them both in the dock together). Very light. I may still switch to jawbone for the ear loop, though.
    07-26-2007 07:28 PM
  12. mobileman's Avatar
    Actually there are many reviews saying it sucks. I just prefer forum postings.

    Here's slashgear's review.


    http://www.slashgear.com/apple-bluet...ing-246389.php

    As usual, style over function.

    Surur

    Just two posts below the one you posted was a very positive review of the headset. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=333971 . Why didn't you mention this one? What is your criteria for posting links? Skip the positive ones and post the negative ones?

    I really don't care, I hate all Bluetooth headsets.
    07-26-2007 07:32 PM
  13. surur's Avatar
    I actually just received the bluetooth headset this afternoon. Other than it not quite being a comfortable fit, it seems fine to me. Much better than the jabra thing I had. Sounds fine. Integrates with the phone in interesting ways (volume controlled by phone, battery indicator appears on phone, pairs by placing in the combo dock - it even turns the bluetooth on the phone on if it was disabled when you stick them both in the dock together). Very light. I may still switch to jawbone for the ear loop, though.
    To counter this glowing review, here's another disappointed user.

    - - Apple Bluetooth Headset-not so great

    billyripkin 07-25-2007 10:12 PM

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    Apple Bluetooth Headset-not so great

    First off I love Apple but with this product they missed the mark. Maybe someone can offer some help but if anything is blocking the visual link between the bluetooth headset and iPhone it sounds like staticville. My old Logitech headset can be used pretty much anywhere in my 2 story townhome while my phone sits in the charger. With the Apple headset I get out of visual range and the signal starts to fade. Could Airport extreme or another wifi network be knocking it out? My old headset does not get affected by this so I am calling this product a $130 dud.

    If I cant find a working solution for this I am returning it and hopefully not getting hit with a restocking fee. So sad since it is a really nice looking product not to mention the dock idea is excellent.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=333994

    Surur
    07-26-2007 07:35 PM
  14. surur's Avatar
    Just two posts below the one you posted was a very positive review of the headset. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=333971 . Why didn't you mention this one? What is your criteria for posting links? Skip the positive ones and post the negative ones?
    Actually that guy decided to post just to counter the growing groundswell of opinion that the headset... sucks.

    Surur
    07-26-2007 07:38 PM
  15. mikec#IM's Avatar
    Let's all take a step back here folks. Does it not appear that the ones who are angriest with the iphone and most intent on instigating here are the windows crowd?

    Regarding letting.... it.... go. Why haven't you taken your own advice? Seems all you guys do here is bash the iphone ALL day long and you talk about not being able to let... it... go?

    Now the n-word comment? You just keep hanging yourself the more you talk.

    This is priceless. Apple's arrogance has absolutely nothing on the windoze drones here.
    The n-word....you know that "Newton" :-)
    07-26-2007 07:39 PM
  16. mobileman's Avatar
    Actually that guy decided to post just to counter the growing groundswell of opinion that the headset... sucks.

    Surur
    Wow, you have an amazing ability to be able to figure out why people post opinions, and why they like or dislike something.

    Who cares if its good or not. We really want to know how its selling. Lets send in MikeC to do his regular field research at apple stores.
    07-26-2007 07:41 PM
  17. mikec#IM's Avatar
    who predicted significantly higher numbers for the first 30 hours? Was it Apple? Your comments were a clear indication that you took AT&Ts activation numbers and turned the into a negative launch for apple. You can cry all you want now MikeC, but thats what you implied. Since Apple reported their numbers you have ofcourse distanced yourself from your earlier "fanboy" statements. I'm glad. I'm alot more interested in your first hand reporting from the mall.
    30 hours is your construct. You keep having fun with it.

    Obvious, the only clear indication was the 147K phone were activated.

    I'm not crying at all; I'm glad they had an unprecidented launch. My stock broker does too.

    I have not distanced myself at all; in fact, I even stepped closer by defining the sub-group, iPhoniacs. And I addressed every question posed, despite the fact a surfer was posing them.

    You are angry at the world, no doubt. Rub one out - you'll feel better.
    07-26-2007 07:45 PM
  18. mikec#IM's Avatar
    Kind of strange how Macrumors has plenty of postive reviews of the Bluetooth headset, but you picked out this one. Come on Surur, I expect this from the types like MikeC, but I thought you were above this.
    Don't bring me into your dellusions....
    07-26-2007 07:46 PM
  19. mobileman's Avatar
    30 hours is your construct. You keep having fun with it.
    Hmm, thats odd. Your comments came after AT&T announced activitions after the first 30 hours. How is this my construct?
    07-26-2007 07:48 PM
  20. mikec#IM's Avatar
    Wow, you mean Blackberry, Windows Mobile, Symbian and Palm dont have monopolies on phones that freeze? This is shocking news. I was totally expecting Apple to be the first phone maker ever that was able to have a device that never needs a reset.
    So you are saying the iPhone is just like every other smartphone and needs to be reset regularly?

    Typical iPhoniac behaviors...when the veneer wears off, just discount the issue.

    The real question is not the freezes and resets, but how quickly Apple fixes issues.
    07-26-2007 07:49 PM
  21. mikec#IM's Avatar
    The comment quoted above is what Im talking about. That was where it started, and then you jump onboard later. Get YOUR facts straight.
    Surfer, I have my facts straight. Whatever your problem, I think it's not with me.
    07-26-2007 07:50 PM
  22. mikec#IM's Avatar
    This wins the award for dumbest post of the day (outside anything MikeC posts ofcourse).
    SAND.
    07-26-2007 07:51 PM
  23. mobileman's Avatar
    Surfer, I have my facts straight. Whatever your problem, I think it's not with me.
    You might think you have your facts straight, but they are of course wrong. I have no problems with you except your lack of knowledge on the subject you keep posting about. Hang 10 man.
    07-26-2007 07:52 PM
  24. mikec#IM's Avatar
    Samkin, be very careful when arguing facts about the stock market with MikeC. As evidence to his posts here, he has an immense knowledge on the subject. He even does his own field research by interviewing apple store employees about sales.
    I think samkin doesn't need your advice; he seems mature and able and communicate reasonably.

    Insecure, surfer? Trying to make buddies?
    07-26-2007 07:55 PM
  25. mikec#IM's Avatar
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