1. Certs's Avatar
    ok, you guys continue to have your fun

    Now I'm totally confused....

    Which one is the spoiled rich kid????
    07-07-2007 06:06 PM
  2. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    BTW, the consensus seems to be that Safari does crash a lot.
    Common consensus? Your exaggerations are more extreme than any hype surrounding the iPhone, you found three people that reported at least a single crash. Not only that but you failed to acknowledge that at least one of the people said it was the best mobile browser out there. No one is saying that apps in the iPhone don't crash, i'm sure it happens, but its still the most stable device i've ever used that had the features this one does.
    07-07-2007 06:17 PM
  3. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    BTW, the consensus seems to be that Safari does crash a lot.

    Surur
    OMG and it will never be fixed. I'm selling the iPhone and getting a supah-stable Palm!!!!111one!!11eleven!!

    (tee-hee. I'm slap happy with my RAZR clone) :thumbsup:

    Hey...let's see if we can make this the most popular thread evhar on TREO central.com! Keep refreshing and posting!

    (Anyone got any fruit roll-ups...I just ran out...
    07-07-2007 06:28 PM
  4. volwrath's Avatar
    OMG and it will never be fixed. I'm selling the iPhone and getting a supah-stable Palm!!!!111one!!11eleven!!

    (tee-hee. I'm slap happy with my RAZR clone) :thumbsup:

    Hey...let's see if we can make this the most popular thread evhar on TREO central.com! Keep refreshing and posting!
    Psst .. make sure you get WM...
    07-07-2007 06:30 PM
  5. surur's Avatar
    Common consensus? Your exaggerations are more extreme than any hype surrounding the iPhone, you found three people that reported at least a single crash. Not only that but you failed to acknowledge that at least one of the people said it was the best mobile browser out there. No one is saying that apps in the iPhone don't crash, i'm sure it happens, but its still the most stable device i've ever used that had the features this one does.
    visnu is me iphone: safari crashes a lot

    30 Jun 2007
    iphone: safari crashes a lot
    ive made it crash like 4-5 time already on various websites not horrible, but not an amazing experience. in particular, it crashed just now on my work gmail account. id of course love to use the built-in mail to read my work mail, but:

    gmail doesnt support imap
    i read my work mail in 5 different places
    so im stuck using safari to browse to the gmail interface, which crashes safari. stupid. ooh, just crashed again in gmail. i guess ill stop using it for that now. stupid stupid.
    http://visnup.com/2007/06/30/iphone-...crashes-a-lot/

    You seem to be in denial about Safari crashing a lot.

    Surur
    07-07-2007 06:37 PM
  6. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    between you and i only one of us has ever even used the iPhone, and i've only had safari crash a single time. I opened it back up, it reloaded the page i was on and i was on my way. You have now found maybe 5 reports of Safari crashing and one where they have made it crash a total of 5 times..... If 5 crashes is a lot how do you stand using WM?
    07-07-2007 06:44 PM
  7. surur's Avatar
    More threads about Safari crashing a lot.

    iphonelove 07-01-2007 03:25 PM

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    iphone safari browser keeps randomly closing!

    ahh everytime im on the internet it randomly closes. its getting me really fusturated :foot: is their anything i can do to fix it? i love the internet but it keeps closing =/ any help??

    iphonelove 07-01-2007 03:42 PM

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    please anyonee i just tried it and in 5 minutes it closed 3 times. :angry:

    JnC 07-01-2007 03:45 PM

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    Try...

    Settings > Safari >

    either

    Clear Cookies or Clear Cache, or both

    and quit visiting those porn sites :tounge:

    irondentist 07-01-2007 03:47 PM

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    I am having problem also, I will try clearing the cookies and cache.

    Safari crashes after a few minutes. Very frustrating.

    Steve Jobs, we need a firmware update fast.

    iphonelove 07-01-2007 03:49 PM

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    nope i deff. do not go to porn sites seeing as i am a 13 year old girl and i just cleared both of those, went on internet and it shut down. :angry::angry::angry:

    wjp09 07-01-2007 03:51 PM

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    how many tabs do you have open I noticed that with three or more it locks up and crashes

    iphonelove 07-01-2007 03:52 PM

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    just the one that im actually surfing on

    JnC 07-01-2007 04:04 PM

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    On my mac I've discovered that certain sites cause problems with Safari. Usually it's due to bad programming in the animated advertisements. Which I was hoping the absence of Flash and Java would actually make things more stable.

    RchGrav 07-01-2007 04:06 PM

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    My iPod portion was crashing too. I turned off my iPhone and back on, now it seems ok.

    Sobe 07-01-2007 04:11 PM

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    Originally Posted by iphonelove (Post 32145)
    nope i deff. do not go to porn sites seeing as i am a 13 year old girl and i just cleared both of those, went on internet and it shut down. :angry::angry::angry:
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    I haven't had any site kill safari yet

    :shrug:

    I would point my finger at the site's coding..

    And 13?

    I'd duck tape that phone to yourself :tounge:

    DD0 07-01-2007 04:15 PM

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    I have had my safari crash quite a few times as well. My iPod has also crashed twice, but only when I was listening to it and doing something else at the same time.

    irondentist 07-01-2007 05:03 PM

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    Bump, I cleared my cache and and cookies, Safari is still crashing badly.

    Help anyone? I go to engadget.com website, zoom in on the article, scroll down to read older articles, scroll down a few times then bam! Crash to desktop. Anyone have any ideas why its doing this?

    blounted1 07-02-2007 09:59 PM

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    Originally Posted by iphonelove (Post 32100)
    ahh everytime im on the internet it randomly closes. its getting me really fusturated :foot: is their anything i can do to fix it? i love the internet but it keeps closing =/ any help??
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    Try restarting the iphone, worked for me. I was having the same problem in Safari and with Maps.

    Hope that helps.

    iphonenut 07-02-2007 10:05 PM

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    Originally Posted by blounted1 (Post 34676)
    Try restarting the iphone, worked for me. I was having the same problem in Safari and with Maps.

    Hope that helps.
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    yeah...this seems to have worked for me as well. You need to completely shut down the phone not just put ot to sleep. Hope that helps.

    TrippalHealicks 07-02-2007 10:05 PM

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    Originally Posted by blounted1 (Post 34676)
    Try restarting the iphone, worked for me. I was having the same problem in Safari and with Maps.

    Hope that helps.
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    I just had it crash about 3 times in a row, trying to load www.iphonecolony.com

    It worked fine the first time I went to it, after that, crashed ever time.

    JeffBobula 07-02-2007 10:06 PM

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    Yeah, the restarts seemed to have helped me, too.

    TrippalHealicks 07-02-2007 10:10 PM

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    I restarted, it loaded the page, got to a 2nd page (clicked from the first) and then it crashed again.

    Yay! lol

    mlass 07-02-2007 10:30 PM

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    I have had some issue with safari closing last night, but battery level was low. I'll have to see if I'll issue again. I have not reset my iPhone, but have not had any issue today.

    Signal7 07-02-2007 10:47 PM

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    The same thing was happening to me in the APPLE store in Boca Raton, FL. I was able to pry a iphone away from some 8 year old kid and after surfing on their WiFi for about thirty mins I had numerous Safari shutdowns too. I figued i was doing something wrong but after reading this post i guess not. I was wondering if maybe i lost connection to the network or something. Oh well. I hope they get this issued ironed out by the time i buy a Version 2 with EDGE.

    Signal7

    Ghoulfool 07-02-2007 11:37 PM

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    Happened today for the first time

    Fred87nc 07-02-2007 11:56 PM

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    fm transmiter for the iPhone?

    anyone tried any fm transmiter with the iphone and how well did it work?

    SmartAlx 07-03-2007 12:32 AM

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    Originally Posted by Sobe (Post 32195)
    ...I would point my finger at the site's coding...
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    Unless these sites' coding makes Safari crash on a mac or pc (or for that matter if they make another browser like Opera, Firefox, or IE crash) I'm going to say the iPhone is the problem and needs to be fixed.

    Iwantmymtv35 07-03-2007 01:21 AM

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    Originally Posted by Fred87nc (Post 34826)
    anyone tried any fm transmiter with the iphone and how well did it work?
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    I really don't see how this fits in with this thread, but whatever.

    My iPhone has been doing this as well. I shut it down and rebooted; however, about 2 days later, the problem came back. Come on Mr. Jobs, we need us a firmware update.

    megha 07-03-2007 04:21 AM

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    safari and google maps, both shutting down to the desktop!!!!

    The first two days safari was working fine, with hours and hours of web surfing, since yesterday I have been observing that the safari and now the google maps application shut down in about 30 secs.

    Anyone else experience the same problem, I think I'll have to go to the genius bar at the apple store or return this iphone.

    mmafighter 07-03-2007 07:48 PM

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    try reseting iphone in itunes

    fredthedog 07-03-2007 07:53 PM

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    Originally Posted by Iwantmymtv35 (Post 34940)
    I really don't see how this fits in with this thread, but whatever.

    My iPhone has been doing this as well. I shut it down and rebooted; however, about 2 days later, the problem came back. Come on Mr. Jobs, we need us a firmware update.
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    Its a mini computer that doesn't close any apps. Eventually you just need to reboot it (turn it off and on.) It takes about 30 secs and then everything runs smooth.

    brettpweb 07-04-2007 07:11 AM

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    Safari browser closes on iphone

    Quote:

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    Originally Posted by iphonelove (Post 32100)
    ahh everytime im on the internet it randomly closes. its getting me really fusturated :foot: is their anything i can do to fix it? i love the internet but it keeps closing =/ any help??--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Restore the iphone...it did work...do not add your back up data until you verify that the safari works...

    when I restored iphone safari worked properly... I am now loading up back up...will reply later...good luck

    DeadSpider 07-04-2007 07:41 AM

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    My Safari, Youtube, and Google Maps
    all crash to the menu screen. This seems
    to happen all the time with my phone.
    http://www.everythingiphone.com/foru...sing-3310.html

    Lets not deny reality please.

    Surur
    07-07-2007 06:44 PM
  8. surur's Avatar
    iPhone Safari Browser Crash
    Published July 1st, 2007 in Apple and Technology.
    Im noticing my browser crashing every now and then. At first I thought it was just something I was doing, but now Im certain its the browser. The last crash occured while watching a trailer on the Apple trailer site for iPhone. Is anyone else experiencing this issue?

    Technorati Tags: iphone, browser, safari, crash, crashing

    17 Responses to iPhone Safari Browser CrashFeed for this Entry Trackback Address

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    1 Michael Collins
    Jul 1st, 2007 at 10:34 pm
    Safari has crashed on me several times already. Hopefully, Apple will release a patch to address this soon.

    2 JP
    Jul 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pm
    Yes! My browser crashed every five to ten minutes today. Which is not cool. Im not sure what to dogo to the apple store? I wont return the iphone, but I do want to know if its just a handful of phones doing this, because if it is I want a different one!

    3 Ed
    Jul 1st, 2007 at 11:05 pm
    Hopefully well see an update for this soon. Its nice to know Im not the only one seeing this.

    4 Harris
    Jul 2nd, 2007 at 6:47 pm
    Same here, i was on the phone with apple care for an hour today got the old run around and was told to resent, restore, airplane mode, etc nothing works so wait for the patch it isanyone get the same problem when using google maps?

    5 Robert Plank
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 5:19 am
    It reset several times on me today. I was on cnn.com and digg.com. This is my first Apple product, and I am anxious to see how well they are at product support.

    6 mike
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 5:44 am
    safari has crashed at least 20 times today! Im really disappointed : (

    7 rek
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 6:22 am
    my iphone safari crashed again while posting this comment

    8 chris
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 7:04 am
    while doing what ever you are doing on safari try our best th leave your finger on the screen. i think the iphonethinks that it is not eing usedso it shuts off to save power.

    just a thought

    9 Jason Nassi
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 9:14 am
    Im getting crashes as well on Safari and Google Maps. Havent really been able to use either function on my iPhone for more than a few minutes at a time because of the crashes.

    10 Ed
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 9:31 am
    Chris, I would agree, especially because it went out while watching a trailer. But I just had it crash while clicking on an RSS.

    11 G-Dog
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 9:32 am
    Ha! Chris is obviously typing on his iPhone.

    My Safari crashes fairly often, as well; although I dont mind so much as its just a phone. I cant seem to listen to music and surf the web without the iPod app crashing, as well. Google Maps has crashes several times.

    I assume this will all be fixed via an update, soon.

    12 Thistle Down
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
    If Safari or other apps are crashing go to

    Settings > General > Reset > Reset All Settings

    Try this first. If it doesnt help, it did for me. Then you will want to reset from iTunes WHICH WILL ERASE ALL DATA (music/movies/contacts) but dont whine, just re-sync.

    If that doesnt work, go to Apple and swap it for another one. (Call the store first to see if they have swappers in stock.)

    13 Ben White
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
    I was also having safari crashing problems that seemed to be getting worse. It got to the point that I couldnt even read one web page without a crash. A simple restart seems to have fixed the problem. Havent had one crash since. I suspect a bug like a memory leak that gets worse the longer you go without restarting the system. YMMV

    Cheers,

    Ben

    14 Ktbaxter
    Jul 4th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
    The restart worked gangbusters and I was having regular Safari and Google maps crashes. Thanks!

    15 Kevin Hoffman
    Jul 6th, 2007 at 7:21 am
    Me tooApple are you listening??

    Crashes every 3-5th time I use Safari. In Maps, at CNN, at apple.com, etc.

    16 Aaron
    Jul 6th, 2007 at 10:39 am
    I was experiencing a lot of Google Maps and Safari crashes as well. So far, a power off/on cycle seems to have fixed it.

    17 dogzilla
    Jul 6th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
    Interesting reading your experiences. Ive had a fair number of crashes, resulting, I think, from using Safari like I do my desktop Safari: I leave many windows open. I think iPhone webkit has two obvious problems: a vicious memory leak and serious instanility in the plugin architecture. I suggest this not only explains the crashing when Safari/Google maps (which presumably uses webkit)are left open, but also Apples decision to exclude Flash, Java, and only minimal video support. Weird that they shipped anyway - i hope this doesnt indicate a systemic problem in hardware. Tonight the iPhone gave me a scare and hung up hard. Wouldnt restart for @ 3 mins.

    On the plus side, I typed this whole thing on the keyboard pretty quickly, so Im getting better.
    http://www.oneblogtoomany.com/2007/0...browser-crash/

    Surur
    07-07-2007 06:51 PM
  9. surur's Avatar
    devost 07-06-2007 13:23

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    Web pages that crash applications

    We've tested this on a few phones, so I'd be curious to know what happens for other users here.

    Start playing a song via the iPod application.

    Open safari and go to www.cnn.com

    Does your iPod application crash and stop playing music?

    This is a bug that definitely needs to be fixed.

    mcdj 07-06-2007 13:39

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    Hofo crashes more than any other site I visit. Or maybe I just visit here more than any other site.

    dagomike 07-06-2007 14:01

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    It opens for me. There's tons of crap on there, so it's not surprising it might make Safari bug out. It take a while for it to loan on WiFi, so it's probably hits the CPU pretty hard.

    ajpprc 07-06-2007 15:04

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    I've had the browser crash on hofo several times and I've also had the problem with the iPod stopping audio playback when I visit certain sites. This happened to me several times last night, but I didn't note what sites I was at when it happened. Hopefully they fix these bugs soon.

    richard371 07-06-2007 22:30

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    Didnt crash on me but i reboot mine every other day or so for good measure.

    bradleyland 07-07-2007 01:09

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    I can crash the hell out of the web browser and iPod if I try to browse and listen to music at the same time. I just figured that it's too much for the phone. The browser in the iPhone scales the entire web page. It's a very intensive process.
    http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1195766

    Its a pity the plural of anecdotes isnt data, because there sure is a lot of anecdotal evidence that Safari crashes a lot.

    Surur
    07-07-2007 07:02 PM
  10. bruckwine's Avatar
    between you and i only one of us has ever even used the iPhone, and i've only had safari crash a single time. I opened it back up, it reloaded the page i was on and i was on my way. You have now found maybe 5 reports of Safari crashing and one where they have made it crash a total of 5 times..... If 5 crashes is a lot how do you stand using WM?
    Antelope I have to side with surur on this one - I've seen at least 20 different usernames (clone accts? i doubt) that state their safari crashes in less than 3 threads (macrumors.com i think or everythingiphone.com)...it's a fact - it crashes esp if you are listening to music with it (which seems to be the thing owners on those forums want to do most - surf and listen to the iPod)

    Seems the same with GoogleMaps (lower fequency though)...what it seems to be is that mobile OSX is very similar to WM5 - apps don't close and eventually too many open apps causes instability just like any OS out there that multitasks. These two iPhone apps prolly use the most memory on the phone.
    07-07-2007 07:33 PM
  11. Slingbox's Avatar
    Can you play Call of duty 2 on the iPhone hehehe

    07-07-2007 07:34 PM
  12. surur's Avatar
    Here's a funny thread, not just for the premise, but for the reaction of the iPhone owners.

    whtrbt7 07-02-2007 22:58

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    WM6 on iPhone

    The iPhone uses an Intel ARM 624Mhz processor. In theory, the hardware dictates that you can install Windows Mobile 6 on an iPhone. There is still the issue of an application lock and SIM lock to deal with but overall, the concept is still the same when it comes to firmware. The biggest hurdle will be the adaptation of the multi-touch interface since we still need drivers. Anyone interested in this project? :buddies:

    unregistered825 07-02-2007 23:01

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    now this is funny lol

    marlboro_me 07-02-2007 23:02

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    That's like McDonalds at a baseball game.

    Diversion 07-02-2007 23:39

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    624mz ARM cpu? I thought it was 400mhz.

    Merlyn_3D 07-02-2007 23:43

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    Boot camp on the iPhone? I doubt we'll ever see that.

    whtrbt7 07-03-2007 00:20

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    Sorry, the actual processor is an ARM 1176JZF clocked at 620Mhz. The production is alleged to have come from Samsung since the memory is definitely from Samsung. In any case, the processor is definitely an ARM processor which means apps and OSes that require ARM processors should be able to be put onto the phone. The other details about the new processor is that it runs Java well and has a trusted computing environment. The processor is defiitely a plus in this case but the radio hardware just isn't very impressive.

    whtrbt7 07-03-2007 00:21

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    Regarding boot camp on the iPhone, we probably wouldn't be able to do that. The hardware seems to be capable of WM6 however.

    2JZGTETT 07-03-2007 00:23

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    there is no intel in the iphone, its a samsung CPU

    toomer 07-03-2007 01:22

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whtrbt7
    The iPhone uses an Intel ARM 624Mhz processor. In theory, the hardware dictates that you can install Windows Mobile 6 on an iPhone. There is still the issue of an application lock and SIM lock to deal with but overall, the concept is still the same when it comes to firmware. The biggest hurdle will be the adaptation of the multi-touch interface since we still need drivers. Anyone interested in this project? :buddies:



    Oh, for the love of God ... why???!?

    It's an insult to this hardware, to put WinMo on it!!

    I had my days with WM (I bought one of the first imported WM5 devices to hit the shores of the US - the i-Mate K-Jam, from MadMonkeyBoy here on HoFo) but I'm done with having to tweak, tune, and registry edit my phone to get it to work the way I expect ...

    Either way, this sounds more like a project for the folks over on xda-users than the folks here ...

    cliffr39 07-03-2007 01:59

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 2JZGTETT
    there is no intel in the iphone, its a samsung CPU


    It's an ARM1176/Samsung S3C6400
    now to figure out is it 533 or 667mhz
    http://forums.imore.com/e?link=http%...token=TNtaaE1Z

    Seltzer 07-03-2007 02:42

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    So, why would you put MS garbage on an iPhone? Bored? Bet? Dare?

    inkhead 07-03-2007 04:57

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    We already know it's 620mhz off the assembly line (what they clock it to) but all chips generally get baked and then can do higher speeds. This one is rated up to 700mhz, so some of them could be overclocked to 700mhz.

    But a 620mhz phone, just makes you SO excited for them to hurry up and hack it, from the OS stuff that's been posted already you can tell it's real OS X. So eventually we'll be able to run all kinda apps with this kind of speed.

    I can't wait for my Voice Changing Application, muhaha

    wratran 07-03-2007 05:05

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Seltzer
    So, why would you put MS garbage on an iPhone? Bored? Bet? Dare?


    The icrap need wm6 real bad to be a multifunction phone. Without an OS, it is useless for any 3rd party software.The list of Cons is 3 time longer than pros...do a search on this forum. Unable to edit any MS office documents is one of the cons....no gps capability...no tethering ....etc..


    Petino 07-03-2007 05:42

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by toomer
    Oh, for the love of God ... why???!?

    It's an insult to this hardware, to put WinMo on it!!

    I had my days with WM (I bought one of the first imported WM5 devices to hit the shores of the US - the i-Mate K-Jam, from MadMonkeyBoy here on HoFo) but I'm done with having to tweak, tune, and registry edit my phone to get it to work the way I expect ...

    Either way, this sounds more like a project for the folks over on xda-users than the folks here ...



    Nicely said i mean he is right about the spec of the processor i was actually reading about that yesterday but for gods sake why would you want Windows MOBILE (and i stress that MOBILE) over Mac OSX....... why.......

    nbrownfield 07-03-2007 05:58

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    That's like taking an Aston Martin and shoving a Cavalier engine in it. It still looks beautiful, but it runs like crap!

    nbrownfield 07-03-2007 05:59

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wratran
    The icrap need wm6 real bad to be a multifunction phone. Without an OS, it is useless for any 3rd party software.The list of Cons is 3 time longer than pros...do a search on this forum. Unable to edit any MS office documents is one of the cons....no gps capability...no tethering ....etc..




    you are a troll. Why are you posting in this forum if you believe it is such crap?

    CPcrazyfly 07-03-2007 06:06

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Seltzer
    So, why would you put MS garbage on an iPhone? Bored? Bet? Dare?


    id say to increase the amount of attractive features..since the iPhone just so happens to lack them.
    http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192792

    Surur
    07-07-2007 07:47 PM
  13. mikec#IM's Avatar
    It's nor Mobile Safari that is the problem, it's those pesky web site the IE, Opera and Firefox handle just fine.

    It everyone would just write their web sites specially for the iPhone, there would be no problems.
    07-07-2007 07:53 PM
  14. surur's Avatar
    The last word on safari crashes (unless people continue to dispute that Safari crashes a lot)

    kenheing 07-07-2007 09:15 PM

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    Have anyone experience these...

    Sometime, when I am using Safari, I got kick out to the main menu. I'm pretty sure that I didn't click the home button because it happens to me couple times.

    Another problem I experience is that when I'm using Safari while playing song, it shut down the song automatically, but I can still use Safari. My guess is that the Iphone is doing too much at once so it doesn't have enough memory to handle and so it shut down something. Or, my Iphone has problem.

    Any thought or anyone experienced the same thing?

    By the way, both problems only happen sometime.

    wjp09 07-07-2007 09:16 PM

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    yeah it happens its just a bug.

    kenheing 07-07-2007 09:19 PM

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    I just want to make sure it's not just my iphone. Did both of the problem happens to you? are they well known problem for iphone?

    Also, does Apple have any software to solve this problem yet?

    wjp09 07-07-2007 09:25 PM

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    Im sure apple will fix bugs in their first software update. I haven't met one user who didn't expericence that problem
    kenheing 07-07-2007 09:27 PM

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    Thanks, hopefully they have the update soon...

    mactigger 07-07-2007 11:47 PM

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    That music thing has happened to me like 6 times in the last hour. Funny enough it just happened to me when I tried to reply to you. Very annoying!

    monkeysrock0622 07-08-2007 12:04 AM

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    Originally Posted by kenheing (Post 41123)
    Sometime, when I am using Safari, I got kick out to the main menu. I'm pretty sure that I didn't click the home button because it happens to me couple times.

    Another problem I experience is that when I'm using Safari while playing song, it shut down the song automatically, but I can still use Safari. My guess is that the Iphone is doing too much at once so it doesn't have enough memory to handle and so it shut down something. Or, my Iphone has problem.

    Any thought or anyone experienced the same thing?

    By the way, both problems only happen sometime.
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    yah evryone with an iPhone has been experiancng this problem
    http://www.everythingiphone.com/foru...hese-4576.html

    Surur
    07-07-2007 08:36 PM
  15. llarson's Avatar
    Great! Maybe we'll see a lot less of this from you guys...

    Malatesta, you and your friends seem to be doing all the crying.

    The iPHONE isn't the best blah, blah, blah , blah...

    Suck it up and except the fact the iPHONE is here and will more then likely drive the other phone developers to copy its GUI.

    Come next year you will more then likely be using a iPHONE rip-off phone.

    But as I have said you guys seem to be lacking something and these threads seem to make you feel better about yourselves and your gadget so do what you have to.
    07-07-2007 08:39 PM
  16. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    The last word on safari crashes (unless people continue to dispute that Safari crashes a lot)

    Surur
    Safari has crashed several times on me during my first week of ownership. Yep, it crashes. *gasp* Yep, the iPhone was released 1 week ago. Yep. It's highly unstable and likely to crash at any second. We get it.

    POS was released more than a week ago. Many years ago. Bone stock, it still crashes, resets, etc. Hmm.

    WM was released more than a week ago. Many years ago. Bone stock, it still crashes, locks up, etc. Hmm.

    iPhone was released a week ago. One app crashes. It may be fixed sometime in the next many years. Maybe, just maybe.

    I find it amusing people seem shocked to the core than a week old Apple product has a few bugs. Just because it's Apple, if it's not PERFECT, the trolls attack. Great stuff, actually! :crazy:

    I can't believe I'm being lured back into this thread. It's a waste of life, but oddly entertaining.

    BTW, Safari crashes, in case anyone hasn't heard! Run for teh HILLSE!!

    Again, I'd really love some fruit roll-ups...
    07-07-2007 09:01 PM
  17. Certs's Avatar
    Come on, even as an iPhone owner I get a kick out of reading this thread. I have never ever had a safari crash, or any other crash, and I have been trying since I read that CNN method. Even tried with youtube instead of iPod, to no avail. Does that make me special, or everyone who suffers from this an *****? I dunno. I don't care. But I get plenty of good reading out of this thread. There's nothing personal, nothing said here is going to make me return my phone, or stop anyone from buying it. It will, hopefully, make most tc readers feel good about their decision not to buy one. Which is good for them. Reading long threads like this help me apprecate my non-crashing-safari

    I typed this with my iphone, sorry if there are any errors lol
    07-07-2007 09:03 PM
  18. llarson's Avatar
    The last word on safari crashes (unless people continue to dispute that Safari crashes a lot)


    http://www.everythingiphone.com/foru...hese-4576.html

    Surur
    That there are some crashes, and crash means the application Safari quits sending you back to the Home screen not freezing the phone, so the iPHONE is a failure. Not following you on this one Surur but then again only a few people do.

    So far all I have taken away from this thread and the people who have posted ad nauseam cuts and paste, again showing they don't own a iPHONE because we can't , of threads from iPHONE boards is...

    1. Most of you feel strongly that most people who bought and or will buy an iPHONE are stupid (and this is a word most of you have used often).

    2. Apple and Steve Jobs have lied to the world about the iPHONE and you're mad as hell and aren't going to take it anymore.

    3. People who bought and or will buy an iPHONE are stupid (and this is a word most of you have used often).

    4. The iPHONE doesn't have (fill in the blank here for what you think is the end all be all program) so it sucks.

    5. People who bought and or will buy an iPHONE are stupid (and this is a word most of you have used often).

    6. To be a truly useful phone you must be able to install 3rd party apps even if that means your phone crashes, and by this i mean freezes and requires you to do a reset and restart your phone, several times a day but at least you can say you have 3rd party apps!

    7. People who bought and or will buy an iPHONE are stupid (and this is a word most of you have used often).

    Well if you are right Apple will be broke come this time next year and you will be vindicated.

    Time will tell if the iPHONE is the what many think it is a giant evolutionary leap forward in cell phone UI and ease of use.

    I think by this time next year the iPHONE will have a good portion of the cell phone market and most of you will be using iPHONE clones as cell phones.

    Thank you and good night all. Catch you later.
    07-07-2007 09:06 PM
  19. surur's Avatar
    Safari has crashed several times on me during my first week of ownership. Yep, it crashes. *gasp* Yep, the iPhone was released 1 week ago. Yep. It's highly unstable and likely to crash at any second. We get it.

    POS was released more than a week ago. Many years ago. Bone stock, it still crashes, resets, etc. Hmm.

    WM was released more than a week ago. Many years ago. Bone stock, it still crashes, locks up, etc. Hmm.

    iPhone was released a week ago. One app crashes. It may be fixed sometime in the next many years. Maybe, just maybe.

    I find it amusing people seem shocked to the core than a week old Apple product has a few bugs. Just because it's Apple, if it's not PERFECT, the trolls attack. Great stuff, actually! :crazy:
    Apple has never made half *** products . This thing is going to be rock solid .
    Its all about expectations (not being met of course).

    BTW, more than one apps crashes. Google maps also crashes. In addition I think it has memory management issues. It only has 128 MB RAM you know, not much to run a multi-tasking OS with "desktop quality apps".

    Surur
    07-07-2007 09:19 PM
  20. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    Suck it up and except the fact the iPHONE is here and will more then likely drive the other phone developers to copy its GUI.

    Come next year you will more then likely be using a iPHONE rip-off phone.
    That began long ago. I can't believe WM folks are actually copying the iPhone. It sucks and Safari crashes, right?...


    "Slide 2 Unlock" (is that the iPhone unlocker?)
    http://tinyurl.com/2pv67j




    "Finger scroller" (is that theiPhone contacts scroller?)
    http://tinyurl.com/2n9ljg



    Tip of the iceberg. Expect everyone to copy the iPhone. Everyone. My advice to them: Don't copy Safari. It crashes. Nightmare. :cheers:
    07-07-2007 09:22 PM
  21. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    Apple has never made half *** products . This thing is going to be rock solid .
    OMG, is that the Apple spokesman? He just addressed the universe on behalf of the entire Apple user base!! WOW
    07-07-2007 09:25 PM
  22. surur's Avatar
    OMG, is that the Apple spokesman? He just addressed the universe on behalf of the entire Apple user base!! WOW
    Why do you think he's called Metrosexual?

    Surur
    07-07-2007 09:32 PM
  23. surur's Avatar
    I can't believe WM folks are actually copying the iPhone. It sucks and Safari crashes, right?
    I see you have achieved Acceptance. Thats good. Denial is very unhealthy.

    Surur
    07-07-2007 09:36 PM
  24. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    Why do you think he's called Metrosexual?

    Surur
    I don't know. Could you elaborate?

    I see you have achieved Acceptance. Thats good. Denial is very unhealthy.

    Surur
    Denial? Oh, like the river. Clever!
    07-07-2007 09:41 PM
  25. Malatesta's Avatar
    That began long ago. I can't believe WM folks are actually copying the iPhone. It sucks and Safari crashes, right?...

    "Slide 2 Unlock" (is that the iPhone unlocker?)

    "Finger scroller" (is that theiPhone contacts scroller?)

    Tip of the iceberg. Expect everyone to copy the iPhone. Everyone. My advice to them: Don't copy Safari. It crashes. Nightmare. :cheers:
    Couple of points here Eric:

    1)
    Yes people ported over iPhone functionality (way before the iPhone was released). The PPC community is very strong and creative like that and in fact, those programs are both free and simple to use--plus emulating devices is just fun. People have made WM look like XP, OSX, PalmOS, Linux and every other thing imaginable. So these iPhone ports are not unusual or special.

    2) On a device with a front keyboard and even more so with a WM Treo, both programs you cite are actually terrible UIs. Why? (see below)

    3)
    MS and Palm are both known to be working on more one-handed, large icon, touch-based interfaces with cleaner (and in MS's case, highly flexible) UIs.

    This is not a "copy" of Apple though as information on their future OSs was shown nearly a year-ago to some insiders (see Brighthand and Engadget who have both reported on these). Rather, this is just the current and logical trend in the Mobile industry.

    - WM does not need to 'flip and scroll' to find contacts, we just type the contact name and it brings it up, right on the Today Screen. This is much faster and and more accurate than a "flip and scan" approach.

    - The slide-to-lock is also awful since the WM Treo has the Keyguard program, which is one-handed and simpler to use.

    So both of those programs are only good for non-keyboard devices or ones with slide-out keyboards. They are antithetical to Treo usage.

    Safari has crashed several times on me during my first week of ownership. Yep, it crashes. *gasp* Yep, the iPhone was released 1 week ago. Yep. It's highly unstable and likely to crash at any second. We get it.

    POS was released more than a week ago. Many years ago. Bone stock, it still crashes, resets, etc. Hmm.

    WM was released more than a week ago. Many years ago. Bone stock, it still crashes, locks up, etc. Hmm.

    iPhone was released a week ago. One app crashes. It may be fixed sometime in the next many years. Maybe, just maybe.
    You leave out a critical distinction:

    The iPhone is closed to 3rd party applications so any instability is due solely to the OS and programming. More importantly, the inability to use 3rd party programs was done on purpose to reduce instability, that was the "brilliant insight" of Jobs.

    This was suppose to the major advantage with the iPhone over POS and WM, yet it still has some issues.

    By comparison, at least on a WM device, I would challenge anyone to find any site that "crashes" PIE--in fact I have never seen it. It seems to only happen when people get funky and start moving cache to storage cards, installing "plug ins" for PIE, etc. That is, unsupported hacks or modifications to the OS/PIE.

    So your comparison is not accurate since the environments are rarely the same.
    07-07-2007 09:47 PM
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