1. tirk's Avatar
    Schadenfreude is sweet, isn't it! :evil:
    06-30-2007 07:33 AM
  2. surur's Avatar
    Schadenfreude is sweet, isn't it! :evil:
    The sweetest :evil: Especially when the Jesus Phone was supposed to bring world peace

    I wish Archie was here so I could laugh at him.

    Surur
    06-30-2007 07:36 AM
  3. surur's Avatar
    Security glitch found with iPhone - thief will run up your bill

    Looks like a passcode ain't going to stop a thief from running up your bill. Aparently I just discovered that if you have a passcode on your iPhone, like I do, and you click the Emergency Call tab before entering your passcode you can dial any number you'd like, not just emergency 911. I hope Apple patches this.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...30#post3845930

    Surur
    06-30-2007 07:38 AM
  4. surur's Avatar
    EDGE - Only for email!

    Well, EDGE is *great* at email. No problems.

    However, I find the web and even the maps pretty disappointing. It's ok for that 1 time a month you *have* to find something now. Otherwise, I think the Safari portion isn't too useful, unless you're at home on wifi and then you have computer.

    For email though, iphone and edge are great, but that isn't exactly 21st century.

    I'm a little disappointed. I love apple stuff, but this thing is just ok so far.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...21#post3846121

    Apparently you cant switch of pictures on the iPhone browser either.

    Surur
    06-30-2007 07:40 AM
  5. Scott R's Avatar
    I opined yestersday as to how useful an iPhone-focused forum would be. Because the device is fairly closed and un-customizable, what would there be for iPhone users to talk about? Showing off photos they had taken?

    But reading this thread reminds me of something I totally forgot about and demonstrates why an iPhone-focused forum can still be successful: it will be a place for people to come together to help eachother troubleshoot the bugs they're experiencing.
    06-30-2007 07:41 AM
  6. surur's Avatar
    Oh my, the battery is soldered to the logic board, no fun.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...28#post3843428

    I guess the subgeniuses wont be replacing batteries at the Apple bars, will they?

    Surur
    06-30-2007 07:45 AM
  7. surur's Avatar
    I opined yestersday as to how useful an iPhone-focused forum would be. Because the device is fairly closed and un-customizable, what would there be for iPhone users to talk about? Showing off photos they had taken?

    But reading this thread reminds me of something I totally forgot about and demonstrates why an iPhone-focused forum can still be successful: it will be a place for people to come together to help eachother troubleshoot the bugs they're experiencing.
    Seeing as you cant modify the device in any way I think thats rather pointless. They have to wait on the great Steve in the sky to fix it.

    Surur
    06-30-2007 07:47 AM
  8. tirk's Avatar
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...28#post3843428

    I guess the subgeniuses wont be replacing batteries at the Apple bars, will they?

    Surur
    Replacing the battery will definitely be big Jobs then!
    06-30-2007 07:53 AM
  9. bruckwine's Avatar
    Any positive comments from that forum? There have to be some!

    But I expected that with the ringtones, sad.
    ROTFLMAO! Well like we all said there had to be some testers didn'tthere! I can't wait for version 2
    06-30-2007 08:01 AM
  10. surur's Avatar
    so far safari has crashed on me a couple of times, especially while typing a comment on my blog that i created using iWeb and hosted on .Mac account
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...92#post3846392


    Surur
    06-30-2007 08:16 AM
  11. surur's Avatar
    Originally Posted by smash
    2. Why can't I do [obvious task]?
    Numerous times I've run into problems with not being able to do very simple tasks... the iPhone's simplicity actually makes it MORE complicated.

    ~~ Example:
    I got an e-mail from a company I'd ordered car parts from concerning an issue I'd had, they asked me to take a photo. I jumped at the opportunity to test out the phone's camera (yay!) and was pleased with the quality. I then went back to the Mail section (after taking the picture) and clicked 'Reply', wrote a short note, then went to attach the picture. Wait... you CAN'T ATTACH THE PICTURE! There's no option, since there's no visible file-system.

    I then back-tracked to return to the 'Camera' section via the Main menu... clicked the icon I assumed was 'Send this photo' (there are no popup 'text-tool-tips' to help you [as far as I know], so you can only guess what certain buttons do if they're vaguely represented by their icons) and was presented with options to either 'Use as Wallpaper', 'Email Photo' (ding ding ding!), or 'Assign to Contact' -- which I'm sure will sync with your Address Book back to your Mac, very cool.

    After choosing the E-mail option, I was presented with a blank message, not including his e-mail address or any of what I'd typed before. Of course he's not in my Address Book, so I had to go back to the Mail section, write his e-mail address on my hand (since you can't copy and paste??) with a PEN.... analog style (wtf!!), then type it in manually into that new message with a new subject. Is this a joke? How is that productive at all... shame on you Apple.
    How do you send multiple photo attachments in an email then, if the only way to email a photo is by going to the photo app and selecting a photo and clicking email?

    Some of your complaints such as this one are very valid and I hope Apple does something to fix them.

    By biggest gripes are the lack of bluetooth syncing, no file manager, no MMS, and if what you're saying is true how you can't just add attachments like you can in every other mail app then that sucks too.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...83#post3846383

    Surur
    06-30-2007 08:18 AM
  12. surur's Avatar
    Keyboard will take some getting used to, nut the predictive text works well.
    this phone is amazing and has exceeded my expectations. Typing is slot easier than I was expecting.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...86#post3842986



    Surur
    06-30-2007 09:26 AM
  13. cardfan's Avatar
    lol

    I'm starting to not want to get this thing for the wife. Reality > hype.
    06-30-2007 09:33 AM
  14. surur's Avatar
    I am probably in the minority, but I'm really not crazy about my iPhone and here's why - the keyboard sucks. I don't have big fingers and I'm having a hell of a time typing on the thing. two thumbs for me definately isn't working. I have to use a single finger and even then at the far edges of the keyboard it's a crapshoot.

    Sure, the thing has the "wow" factor. I took it with me last night to a local pub and people couldn't keep their hands off it. I'm just not sure it's going to replace my Blackberry Pearl for me right now, especially not at the price. It may go back soon, I'm just not sure - going to give it more time. It's freaking beautiful though, I will give apple credit, it is an amazing device, I'm just not sure that it will suit my needs. I'm not happy with the speed of Edge either.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...2&postcount=33

    Surur
    06-30-2007 09:34 AM
  15. oalvarez's Avatar
    of course you're going to feel like that given all the negativity that has been posted here. there are many ACTUAL OWNERS who have posted many positive comments about their experience so far.

    have a look for yourself

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...=321623&page=5
    06-30-2007 09:36 AM
  16. surur's Avatar
    lol

    I'm starting to not want to get this thing for the wife. Reality > hype.
    Well, for a few weeks she will be the envy of all her friends, and isn't that what expensive gifts is all about?

    Surur
    06-30-2007 09:42 AM
  17. whmurray's Avatar
    If the problems get reported to Apple, I'm sure they'll release a firmware update if they get enough complaints, or face a lot of wrath if they dont!
    One would have expected that to be true of Palm too.
    06-30-2007 09:43 AM
  18. surur's Avatar
    of course you're going to feel like that given all the negativity that has been posted here. there are many ACTUAL OWNERS who have posted many positive comments about their experience so far.

    have a look for yourself

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...=321623&page=5
    Thats completely true. They even had to start a

    I am not having any major problems thread

    thread to prove it (you know, so it wont be lost in all the complaints)

    Surur
    06-30-2007 09:47 AM
  19. cardfan's Avatar
    Well, that was the main reason for wanting it. It's looks and interface. I've listed all the shortcomings before and definitely wouldn't replace a Treo with it. Good eye candy that the wife (and her friends) will dig.

    Still hard to believe, no games.

    Entertainment wise, i'm quick to play a game of bejeweled, chess, etc on the Treo when stuck somewhere with deadtime. Not even a solitaire game?? C'mon. Give me a reason to jump to the crappiest carrier Apple. (while keeping SERO with sprint of course ) Even the ipods have games i hear. I can just hear her now "can i have your phone to play a game while in the car" as her iphone sits there.
    06-30-2007 09:49 AM
  20. surur's Avatar
    Originally Posted by pr5owner
    if u get brought back to the home screen that means your application crashed but did not crash OSX, other ppl have been reporting this.
    Do you have a link to where this is being discussed?

    Mine got so bad that most apps started crashing and sending me back to the home page. After a while, I decided to do a software restore and update on the iPhone. After a long process it seems to be working now, but the weird coverflow behavior remains.

    BTW: before I restored the phone I noticed something else weird—instead of having the date under the time in the Unlock screen, it was displaying the number 83 which just happened to be the temperature for my area in the weather widget.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=322362

    Hard to believe this is all happening with absolute NO third party apps at all, isn't it.

    Surur
    06-30-2007 09:53 AM
  21. oalvarez's Avatar
    here's my gripe; for as much as i hate all things Treo (in their current form), they work for some people (i still don't understand why the basic user doesn't own a blackberry instead). the iPhone is working for many out there and those users seem to be having a lot of fun with their new phones. yes, some are complaining (just like you read about everytime Palm introduces another Treo) but some are not. for many people it's going to be a great device. for those people who either expected more, want more, need more will perhaps return theirs.

    do you like Treos? you must, because i certainly didn't see any posts like these from you years past.

    we need to reel you back in my friend.....
    06-30-2007 09:55 AM
  22. surur's Avatar
    here's my gripe; for as much as i hate all things Treo (in their current form), they work for some people (i still don't understand why the basic user doesn't own a blackberry instead). the iPhone is working for many out there and those users seem to be having a lot of fun with their new phones. yes, some are complaining (just like you read about everytime Palm introduces another Treo) but some are not. for many people it's going to be a great device. for those people who either expected more, want more, need more will perhaps return theirs.

    do you like Treos? you must, because i certainly didn't see any posts like these from you years past.

    we need to reel you back in my friend.....
    No device has been as hyped at the iPhone. Most Treo users who said they were going to switch complained about how stable OSX was going to be, and how crashtastic the Treo was. I am merely puncturing their RDF bubble. This way, when they do get a iPhone, it will be with more realistic expectations.

    Surur
    06-30-2007 09:59 AM
  23. surur's Avatar
    Mine likely will be returned to Apple. There's a 14-day return policy, so I've got some time to test it out. The only thing I'm concerned about is that I switched providers (T-Mobile to AT&T), and I'm not sure if AT&T canceled my contract with T-Mobile when I switched. If they did, am I able to switch back? I may be out a bunch of cash no matter what.

    The phone does some things nicely, but so far I'm not totally convinced. Some basic things about mail are annoying to me - cannot sort the order of mailboxes, there is not one "inbox" folder where I can read ALL of my messages from various accounts, to many menu screens, etc.

    Having a full web browser seems good in practice, but it seems tedious to read messageboards where the browser window doesn't adjust text wraparound when you zoom in - too much scrolling. There is a lot of screen real-estate, but this makes the screen seem much smaller than it is.

    Call volume seemed a bit too quiet on the highest setting, and ringer volume is sorta quiet, too. I don't really like any of the ringtones - most of them aren't even ringers.

    If my Blackberry had WiFi, I probably would've never switched, as that's the biggest feature to me.

    Sooo...waffling. I know a lot of this could be fixed via firmware, but I don't know if it's worth the kind of money I spent to wait around seeing if they will. I owned a Sidekick 1 and 2, so I know how painful it is expecting updates you want.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...36#post3846836

    Surur
    06-30-2007 10:02 AM
  24. oalvarez's Avatar
    should we paste in a positive user comment for every negative one you provide? that wouldn't be very useful, would it.

    c'mon man......
    06-30-2007 10:06 AM
  25. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    One would have expected that to be true of Palm too.
    But we already know Apple is willing to release timely updates. iTunes/Quicktime has lots of updates and so does OS X.

    Palm, I don't know what their problem is.
    06-30-2007 10:10 AM
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