1. surur's Avatar

    When I viewed the new iPhone site something struck me: did Apple change the dimensions of the unit?
    A quick comparison of the official Apple photos revealed they've just changed handsize.
    http://l-rs.org/archief/003192.html

    Ah Apple, not even honest about the little (or is it big) things...


    Surur
    06-21-2007 03:16 PM
  2. Insertion's Avatar
    This has to be the all time stupidest post. Comparing photos?

    You've really lost it. I understand you don't want it. We all get it. But you act like for every iPhone sold, your children will die one day sooner.

    Wow, unbelievable.
    06-21-2007 03:34 PM
  3. Frenzytom#CB's Avatar
    Jobs' Distortion Field even works on hand sizes. I would blame the ad agency as much as Apple for approving those images. Advertising illusion, not the first time and certainly not the last.
    06-21-2007 03:34 PM
  4. braj's Avatar
    It does look quite a bit smaller in the new photo. The first actually looks pretty huge. I wonder how it looks in a women's hand? How about a chimp? Can we see it in a chimp's hand? My kid likes Happy Feet, can a penguin use multi-touch?
    06-21-2007 03:40 PM
  5. surur's Avatar
    This has to be the all time stupidest post. Comparing photos?

    You've really lost it. I understand you don't want it. We all get it. But you act like for every iPhone sold, your children will die one day sooner.

    Wow, unbelievable.
    If you dont think its deceptive, look at the apparent size decrease of the device.



    BTW, I just bring the news, I dont make it.

    Surur
    06-21-2007 03:46 PM
  6. tirk's Avatar
    How about a chimp? Can we see it in a chimp's hand?
    06-21-2007 03:56 PM
  7. Insertion's Avatar
    If you dont think its deceptive, look at the apparent size decrease of the device.

    BTW, I just bring the news, I dont make it.

    Surur
    No. I don't think it's deceptive. It's nearly the same size as an iPod w/Video, the only diff being a bit under .4 inch taller. Doesn't matter how big or small the hand is. Some may have been dumbfounded by this, but I wasn't.

    Hopefully Yao Ming doesn't become a spokesman, or people will be fooled into thinking it's the size of a Shuffle. (but guess what, it won't really be...)
    06-21-2007 03:58 PM
  8. surur's Avatar
    No. I don't think it's deceptive. It's nearly the same size as an iPod w/Video, the only diff being a bit under .4 inch taller. Doesn't matter how big or small the hand is. Some may have been dumbfounded by this, but I wasn't.

    Hopefully Yao Ming doesn't become a spokesman, or people will be fooled into thinking it's the size of a Shuffle. (but guess what, it won't really be...)
    Mr Munk, you are obviously immune to the wiles of Mr Jobs. Doesn't mean there arnt more impressionable people around.

    Surur
    06-21-2007 04:00 PM
  9. Certs's Avatar
    Keep in mind, its still 1mm THINNER than the blackjack, which I happen to own and can say that it is very, very thin.

    And the specs say it is 4.5" Compare that to the Treo, which I just measured to be 4.4"
    06-21-2007 04:02 PM
  10. tirk's Avatar
    Hopefully Yao Ming doesn't become a spokesman, or people will be fooled into thinking it's the size of a Shuffle.
    Better still, Monty Panesar! :bow: :bow: :bow:
    06-21-2007 04:06 PM
  11. surur's Avatar
    Keep in mind, its still 1mm THINNER than the blackjack, which I happen to own and can say that it is very, very thin.

    And the specs say it is 4.5" Compare that to the Treo, which I just measured to be 4.4"
    Doesn't stop it from looking like you are holding a small book to your face. I guess thats why Apple decided to use a giant hand model?

    Surur
    06-21-2007 04:07 PM
  12. Insertion's Avatar
    Mr Munk, you are obviously immune to the wiles of Mr Jobs. Doesn't mean there arnt more impressionable people around.

    Surur
    I was going to disagree with you...but then I realize the number of people that watch things like American Idol and see your point. There are plenty of numbskulls running loose.

    I guess we need to start putting the old "Objects Appear Closer..." disclaimer on ads now. Oh please evolution, you're not happening fast enough.
    06-21-2007 04:09 PM
  13. Dim-Ize's Avatar
    LOL, Dang, Surur. You sure are bitter about the launch of this device.

    Frankly, I'm not getting one. The lack of 3G and EAS are my personal reasons.

    But, I welcome this product into the market - with open arms. It will help the competitiveness of the wireless providers drive down cost to keep customers from switching and force other manufacturers to develope more innovative products, while also driving down costs.

    I use a 755P and can honestly say that I am very happy with the device. I would like several other features (Rev A, BT 2.0, and integrated GPS - not to mention a smaller form factor) but, I am glad other products will be available in this industry.
    06-21-2007 04:42 PM
  14. surur's Avatar
    LOL, Dang, Surur. You sure are bitter about the launch of this device.

    Frankly, I'm not getting one. The lack of 3G and EAS are my personal reasons.

    But, I welcome this product into the market - with open arms. It will help the competitiveness of the wireless providers drive down cost to keep customers from switching and force other manufacturers to develope more innovative products, while also driving down costs.

    I use a 755P and can honestly say that I am very happy with the device. I would like several other features (Rev A, BT 2.0, and integrated GPS - not to mention a smaller form factor) but, I am glad other products will be available in this industry.
    Ah, but how will you feel if the IPhone crowds out your 755p (and its successors) from the market while still providing less features and functionality, all through clever marketing?

    Surur
    06-21-2007 04:45 PM
  15. Malatesta's Avatar
    lol, I can see where people think Surur is being ridiculous with this whole iPhone thing, but I thought it was a pretty funny post.

    They obviously knew what they were doing with the "hand model" thing and it does look waaay smaller now as small as the HTC Touch in fact, whereas before it really looked huge.

    We may all joke around here that this is "nothing" etc but mind you, ad people know what they are doing. They've studied psychology (coming out of the 1950's stuff) and polling data and they know what works and what sells. It is those "subtle" silly things that DO make an advertising difference. There are plenty of sites that document such little things and how they impact people's perception of the product.
    06-21-2007 04:52 PM
  16. braj's Avatar
    Ah, but how will you feel if the IPhone crowds out your 755p (and its successors) from the market while still providing less features and functionality, all through clever marketing?

    Surur
    I really doubt this will 'own' the market, considering people need the features the iphone lacks. And not everyone is willing to spend $600 on a phone.

    I personally like that other companies will be forced to innovate or die now more than ever. Palm for one had been in a rut and there's no denying fear as a motivator for people to get off their lazy arses.

    In a year or 2 when I'm ready to upgrade I expect that the market will be more mature partially because of the iPhone. Thanks Apple!
    06-21-2007 05:00 PM
  17. surur's Avatar
    I really doubt this will 'own' the market, considering people need the features the iphone lacks. And not everyone is willing to spend $600 on a phone.

    I personally like that other companies will be forced to innovate or die now more than ever. Palm for one had been in a rut and there's no denying fear as a motivator for people to get off their lazy arses.

    In a year or 2 when I'm ready to upgrade I expect that the market will be more mature partially because of the iPhone. Thanks Apple!
    It wont be $600 forever. There will be an IPhone Mini and Nano etc soon after.

    If anyone was to emulate Apple, they would simplify their phones by offering less options - that does not sound very desirable to me.

    Surur
    06-21-2007 05:10 PM
  18. oalvarez's Avatar
    one of the oldest tricks in the book.....ya, and most definitely not used by any other company in America or the world except for Apple.

    you're right, pretty funny, and stupid.
    06-21-2007 05:12 PM
  19. Dim-Ize's Avatar
    It wont be $600 forever. There will be an IPhone Mini and Nano etc soon after.

    If anyone was to emulate Apple, they would simplify their phones by offering less options - that does not sound very desirable to me.

    Surur
    LOL. That's great! Indeed, that wouldn't be desireable for any of us.

    P.S. I'm in sales. I'm glad you aren't my competitor.
    06-21-2007 05:49 PM
  20. beachtrader's Avatar
    Ah, but how will you feel if the IPhone crowds out your 755p (and its successors) from the market while still providing less features and functionality, all through clever marketing?

    Surur
    I'd call that capitalism.



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    p.s. And hire the marketing vp for my company.
    06-21-2007 06:43 PM
  21. dwman's Avatar
    Oh please evolution, you're not happening fast enough.
    This coming from a monkey...hilarious
    06-21-2007 06:43 PM
  22. surur's Avatar
    I'd call that capitalism.

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    p.s. And hire the marketing vp for my company.
    Of course sad but true. Hasn't that been one of Palm's major deficiencies - a lack of (good) marketing?

    One could of course also argue that if you do not make a product easy enough for the general public to use you are wasting your money trying to sell it to them - may its that combination which is Apple's real genius.

    Surur
    06-21-2007 06:47 PM
  23. beachtrader's Avatar

    One could of course also argue that if you do not make a product easy enough for the general public to use you are wasting your money trying to sell it to them - may its that combination which is Apple's real genius.

    Surur
    You hit the nail on the head with that one. That is now the core business of Apple--redefining technology via ease of use. That's also why the iPhone will rack up $ for them regardless of features. Think about it--how many features did the original iPod have? Not much.
    06-21-2007 07:52 PM
  24. llarson's Avatar


    http://l-rs.org/archief/003192.html

    Ah Apple, not even honest about the little (or is it big) things...


    Surur
    Next thing he will have pictures of Jobs and aliens cutting a deal to sell us into slavery through mind control devices in the iPHONE.

    "5.5"G iPod (30 or 60 Gig)
    Size: 4.1 x 2.4 x 0.43 inches
    Weight: 4.8 ounces

    iPhone
    Size: 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches
    Weight: 4.8 ounces

    How can Apple be fooling anyone? Here are the dimensions.

    By the way HOW MANY PEOPLE SHELLED OUT $645 for a 700P from Palm when they first came out?

    According to the boards a lot!
    06-21-2007 09:55 PM
  25. samkim's Avatar
    It wont be $600 forever. There will be an IPhone Mini and Nano etc soon after.
    Don't forget the Shuffle.
    06-21-2007 10:37 PM
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