IPhone - No MMS, IM or GPS - Fanboys explode

[marcol]

Yeah, you must always look at your phone to see where and what you're touching to operate it correctly.

This interface would have made a great new iPod alone concept though. Touchscreen MP3 and video player with a similar brilliant screen would rock! For a phone, it's going to be an experiment.

This just goes to show how different people are! I have no problem having to look at a phone to operate it (as a phone) and pretty much the only thing I ever want to do without looking at it is change the volume on a call. iPhone will be fine in that respect. OTOH I really like it that can operate my iPod just by reaching into my pocket. Not full functionality of course but pause/play, volume, skip. Mostly a security thing - I'd rather not wave it around in public. iPhone gets a point deducted for the lack of a click wheel.

 

[Pearl_Diva]

The only good thing is a thief may not be able to use an iPhone if it's stolen. But you pull that thing out too many times and some will probably try snatching it out of your hand!

I usually hide my stuff in my purse and operate it from there. This may be a little hard to do with an iPhone.

I was thinking of the video quality of the screen for a video iPod, although now that you mention it, a click wheel might help there too.

 

[marcol]

I was thinking of the video quality of the screen for a video iPod, although now that you mention it, a click wheel might help there too.

It might, but at the expense of making the device bigger or the screen smaller, both pretty undesirable in my view.

There's no perfect solution to that general problem as far as I can see. There has to be a compromise. Apple went big screen while (most) others have gone small screen or slider/flip. The advantages to a big screen in a small device are obvious, but I'm guessing that a lot of the success of the iPhone will hinge on how people get on without a lot of the mechanical controls they're used to. In the MacWorld keynote Jobs made play of how much more flexible the interface is when freed from buttons. That's true of course. A device with a mechanical QWERTY, big screen, phone buttons, a bunch of PIM app buttons, and a click wheel doesn't sound too great to me

 

[MacUser]

Here's an iChat client for the iPhone.

http://www.publictivity.com/iphonechat/

Wow...I wonder how many there will be by the end of the month.

 

[oalvarez]

Yeah, you must always look at your phone to see where and what you're touching to operate it correctly.
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that is a correct statement. correct?

i can't see doing it any other way.

 

[surur]

It might, but at the expense of making the device bigger or the screen smaller, both pretty undesirable in my view.

There's no perfect solution to that general problem as far as I can see. There has to be a compromise. Apple went big screen while (most) others have gone small screen or slider/flip. The advantages to a big screen in a small device are obvious, but I'm guessing that a lot of the success of the iPhone will hinge on how people get on without a lot of the mechanical controls they're used to. In the MacWorld keynote Jobs made play of how much more flexible the interface is when freed from buttons. That's true of course. A device with a mechanical QWERTY, big screen, phone buttons, a bunch of PIM app buttons, and a click wheel doesn't sound too great to me

I dont know, a capacitive scroll strip on the side, kind of like the JOGGR, but longer, would have been pretty effective without compromising screen size.

Surur

 

[surur]

that is a correct statement. correct?

i can't see doing it any other way.

Voice control?

Surur

 

[marcol]

I dont know, a capacitive scroll strip on the side, kind of like the JOGGR, but longer, would have been pretty effective without compromising screen size.

I guess you could say that a JOGGR is a bit like a linearised click wheel and as such it could replace quite a bit of click wheel functionality. As I understand it though it has only the scroll bit plus two buttons so getting it to replace all of the functionality of a click wheel (which has five buttons) might be tricky. Obviously it wouldn't be able to replace a numeric or QWERTY keyboard in any sensible way at all.

 

[oalvarez]

Voice control?

Surur

i thought that laughable too, so i dismissed it.

funny

 

[surur]

i thought that laughable too, so i dismissed it.

funny

Voice dialing without looking at the screen is pretty well accepted, and on WM voice command works very well for e.g. selecting which artist to play.

Your dismissal is unwarranted.

Surur

 

[oalvarez]

^^ oops, you win....i was seriously thinking "volume control." as for the voice control, i hear ya....but i personally yet to speak to my phone.

please dismiss the original dismissal.

 

[braj]

but i personally yet to speak to my phone.

I thought Apple surely would have been all over this kind of functionality. They had voice control on OS 9 and earlier (do they still?). This would have been handy for the blind who obviously will get nowhere with multi touch. But I guess that's a whole other market

 

[braj]

Wow...I wonder how many there will be by the end of the month.

Again, that looks to be only a mock-up app so people can pretend they have an iPhone on their desktop. A real functional app likely won't be seen until the iPhone is out. And personally I wouldn't trust it to a small time web developer, as you may have read all your data goes through his server. I'd want the app to be hosted by someone I could trust as being secure. And then I would want an integrated app that could handle cross-network chats on at least AOL, YIM, MSN and Google Talk.

This begs the question if you can have multiple Safari windows active at once though. If not it will be very limited in its usefulness. Will it be able to run in the background while you browse another site or check your email? That sort of thing.

 

[bruckwine]

I can see ppl wanting to multitask all these cool "apps" getting into a data bottleneck unless they hang around wifi spots all day...

 

[surur]

I can see ppl wanting to multitask all these cool "apps" getting into a data bottleneck unless they hang around wifi spots all day...

I think SlingPlayer is a cool app. Even that Cingular tune ID app is a cool app. I dont think a shopping list is a cool app.

Surur

 

[C201]

I think SlingPlayer is a cool app. Even that Cingular tune ID app is a cool app. I dont think a shopping list is a cool app.

Surur

DOS wasn't/isn't terribly exciting either. Look where we are today because of it though.