1. specimen38's Avatar
    It's a great looking phone regardless of who's cloning who.

    02-14-2007 06:01 PM
  2. specimen38's Avatar
    This is highly speculative, but:

    As predicted in this thread, Palm is ripe for a takeover or merger.

    Some of you have already seen this article from engadget.
    02-21-2007 01:15 PM
  3. archie's Avatar
    What? You realize the companies CEO issued a public statement (maybe it was an interview, can't remember) saying they copied the iPhone looks (screen display and hardware appearance) in this mock-up to align themselves (capture glory) with Apple after Apple made the iPhone announcement.

    Now, how close do you think Microsoft is going to come (or even be allowed) in reproducing this mock-up? Apparently Windows Mobile 6 looks nothing like the screen people have seen on this.
    02-22-2007 01:33 PM
  4. surur's Avatar
    Archie, again with a poor understanding of the facts..... tut tut..

    MS only makes the OS, the ODM/OEM can do whatever they want with it. BTW, its not WM6, its Win CE 6, which is a very malleable, customizable, componentized embedded OS. Runs ATM's and ECG machines and GPS devices and tractors etc etc. The IPhone is so far from being 5 years ahead its not even funny.

    Sigh.

    Surur
    02-22-2007 02:06 PM
  5. archie's Avatar
    Oh, then Meizu should have no trouble in grafting 720x480 support on top of this then!
    02-22-2007 02:26 PM
  6. surur's Avatar
    Oh, then Meizu should have no trouble in grafting 720x480 support on top of this then!
    I dont know what the sarcastic icon is all about. Yes, you can run Win CE at any resolution you like, just like Windows XP.

    BTW, WM6 now supports 800x480, and two devices running with that resolution is coming out in the next 6 months.

    Maybe some research before posting next time?

    Surur
    02-22-2007 02:40 PM
  7. archie's Avatar
    I don't even know why I bother because you're just gonna come back and post some dribble about me being wrong... even though it is from Microsoft's own website

    Anyway; here it goes, pasted straight from Microsoft's website:

    M$ Mobile 6 supported screen resolutions

    Size - Resolution - Touch Screen
    176x220 - 96 dpi - No
    240x320 - 131 dpi - No
    320x240 - 131 dpi - No
    320x320* - 128 dpi - Yes
    240x320 / 320x240 - 96 dpi - Yes
    480x640/640x480 - 192 dpi - Yes
    240x240 - 96 dpi - Yes
    480x480 - 192 dpi - Yes

    *New for Windows Mobile 6

    Oh, and "BTW" every reference I have read in regards to "WM6" has made specific mention that they are changing the name (yet again) to Windows Mobile 6, NOT Win CE.

    Perhaps it is you that should be considering research the next time you post.


    There, that was fun.
    02-22-2007 05:33 PM
  8. surur's Avatar
    I don't even know why I bother because you're just gonna come back and post some dribble about me being wrong... even though it is from Microsoft's own website

    Anyway; here it goes, pasted straight from Microsoft's website:

    M$ Mobile 6 supported screen resolutions

    Size - Resolution - Touch Screen
    176x220 - 96 dpi - No
    240x320 - 131 dpi - No
    320x240 - 131 dpi - No
    320x320* - 128 dpi - Yes
    240x320 / 320x240 - 96 dpi - Yes
    480x640/640x480 - 192 dpi - Yes
    240x240 - 96 dpi - Yes
    480x480 - 192 dpi - Yes

    *New for Windows Mobile 6

    Oh, and "BTW" every reference I have read in regards to "WM6" has made specific mention that they are changing the name (yet again) to Windows Mobile 6, NOT Win CE.

    Perhaps it is you that should be considering research the next time you post.


    There, that was fun.
    It must be sad to be so wrong so often, and not to even know it....

    BTW, you are still wrong. The M8 runs Win CE 6, not WM6. You clearly do not know what either really are. And of course you are again wrong about the supported resolutions.

    *sigh*

    Surur
    02-22-2007 05:39 PM
  9. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    You two are still at it???? :shake:
    02-22-2007 05:52 PM
  10. surur's Avatar
    Educating Archie is hard work, but I am willing to do him the charity...

    Surur
    02-22-2007 06:06 PM
  11. Malatesta's Avatar
    C'mon Archie, try reading Wikipedia on WinCE.

    WinCE forms the core of Windows Mobile but they are used for very different purposes.

    And for the record, regarding the Meizo Mini-one (M8):

    According to some posts in their forums by someone who appears to be Meizu's CEO, J.Wong, the original M8 design for a massive-touchscreen cellphone debuted four days before Macworld -- however, the design was still undergoing changes, and when Apple launched their product, so Meizu reworked the aesthetic, added some metal, slimmed it down, and voila, M8 *** miniOne.

    engadget


    I mean they have a little bit of wiggle room, lol.
    02-22-2007 11:29 PM
  12. archie's Avatar
    This is ridiculous. I don't care what Microsoft's naming schemes are. Crimeny! They change it up every other year anyway, who could possibly keep track except for the most devout fan-boys).

    My point is (after being so inappropriately derailed) that this dream device/iPhone killer/pie-in-the-sky will not materialize as such. 240 pixels per inch? I think not!

    You know... it's possible that this 720X480 is adhering to the Korean's convention of screen definitions — listing how many lines of transistors make up the screen. 3 (RGB) transitors serve to make up one pixel.

    720 divided by 3 is 240. That is more realistic.
    Now all we have to do is account for the other differences, like the amusing slimming in design by chopping off several millimeters in thickness over the course of 4 days. Explain to me how this could be feasible — then you have my attention (while your at it, you may also want to explain it to the engineers).
    02-23-2007 12:22 PM
  13. surur's Avatar
    This is ridiculous. I don't care what Microsoft's naming schemes are. Crimeny! They change it up every other year anyway, who could possibly keep track except for the most devout fan-boys).

    My point is (after being so inappropriately derailed) that this dream device/iPhone killer/pie-in-the-sky will not materialize as such. 240 pixels per inch? I think not!

    You know... it's possible that this 720X480 is adhering to the Korean's convention of screen definitions listing how many lines of transistors make up the screen. 3 (RGB) transitors serve to make up one pixel.

    720 divided by 3 is 240. That is more realistic.
    If 720x480 seems impossibly great to you, 800x480 is really going to blow your mind.


    http://ringtones.engadgetmobile.com/...dows-mobile-6/


    http://ringtones.engadgetmobile.com/...apans-emobile/

    And look - real keyboards and HSDPA. They better catch up with Apple and remove them, for our greater convenience! And they better remove that Digital TV too!

    Now all we have to do is account for the other differences, like the amusing slimming in design by chopping off several millimeters in thickness over the course of 4 days. Explain to me how this could be feasible then you have my attention (while your at it, you may also want to explain it to the engineers).
    Maybe they just decided to sacrifice battery life, like Apple did?

    Any more questions you need answering?

    Surur
    02-23-2007 12:33 PM
  14. specimen38's Avatar
    Questions?

    Does anyone know if the Meizu will be sold in the U.S.?
    Is this phone being tested by any of the U.S. carriers?
    Furthermore, could this phone pass all of the strict standards of U.S. carriers?
    02-23-2007 12:43 PM
  15. archie's Avatar
    I like how you wait arround, hanging on my every word, just bursting to post in response to my words.

    Wait; that would require that you actually read and understand what I write.



    Here, I'll try playing your way in an effort to dodge the issue.



    2560 x 1600 pixels! What do you have to say about that. AND, it's just as thick.
    02-23-2007 12:43 PM
  16. archie's Avatar
    Questions?

    Does anyone know if the Meizu will be sold in the U.S.?
    Is this phone being tested by any of the U.S. carriers?
    Furthermore, could this phone pass all of the strict standards of U.S. carriers?
    Well, they will be using a TD-SCDMA based radio in it so they can't even test it over seas yet because the network roll-out won't be until the start of 2008.

    TD-SCDMA will never be in the US.
    02-23-2007 12:47 PM
  17. surur's Avatar
    2560 x 1600 pixels! What do you have to say about that. AND, it's just as thick.
    Wow! Thats completely incoherent. Maybe you want to restate your argument? What has that got to do with the M8, and whether it can be 720x480 or not?

    Specimen38, its unlikely the M8 would come to USA. Even the LG PRADA phone is not coming to USA. Its not the most profitable market in the world for a more expensive phone.

    Surur
    02-23-2007 01:01 PM
  18. archie's Avatar
    Wow! Thats completely incoherent. Maybe you want to restate your argument? What has that got to do with the M8, and whether it can be 720x480 or not?
    ...that's what I thought.
    02-23-2007 01:03 PM
  19. surur's Avatar
    You know, at 100 dpi, that cinema display actually has a much lower dpi than the Toshiba WM 6 phone, at 300 dpi. I bet you did not even realize that.

    Surur
    02-23-2007 01:07 PM
  20. vinman's Avatar
    Ridiculous. Why don't you guys (surur, archie, malatesta, and whoever else is engaging in this pathetic pissing contest) please just get together, whip out your willies and measure up. Obviously, at least some of you are dealing with serious inadequacy issues.

    That being said, I find that archies contributions have held a respectable amount of accuracy. Surur, your credibility notwithstanding (though I have no idea what your actual credentials are), I find your contributions pedantic, condescending, and hostile enough to easily discount them - even if some are true.

    This has historically been a very positive, helpful, and entertaining website; but crap like this is what makes truly helpful, even innovative (remember shadowmite?) contributors leave. Please grow up a little and consider taking your personal issues to private messaging to spare the rest of us dodging your urine streams.
    02-23-2007 01:52 PM
  21. surur's Avatar
    This has historically been a very positive, helpful, and entertaining website; but crap like this is what makes truly helpful, even innovative (remember shadowmite?) contributors leave. Please grow up a little and consider taking your personal issues to private messaging to spare the rest of us dodging your urine streams.
    This is one thread which you are not obliged to read. Whats your problem?

    Probably the fact that you believe Archie has any insight.

    Surur
    02-23-2007 02:32 PM
  22. Malatesta's Avatar
    Ridiculous. Why don't you guys (surur, archie, malatesta, and whoever else is engaging in this pathetic pissing contest) please just get together, whip out your willies and measure up. Obviously, at least some of you are dealing with serious inadequacy issues.

    That being said, I find that archies contributions have held a respectable amount of accuracy. Surur, your credibility notwithstanding (though I have no idea what your actual credentials are), I find your contributions pedantic, condescending, and hostile enough to easily discount them - even if some are true.

    This has historically been a very positive, helpful, and entertaining website; but crap like this is what makes truly helpful, even innovative (remember shadowmite?) contributors leave. Please grow up a little and consider taking your personal issues to private messaging to spare the rest of us dodging your urine streams.
    Wow and thanks for your contribution

    Inadequacy issues? Are you busting out antiquated and false Freudian junk in a phone forum? And thanks for the profane imagery.

    Like surur said, you don't have to read this or participate. Archie doesn't have to respond to our posts and we don't have to his but we do. It's all good and just disagreements about technology. Stop taking it personally especially since it doesn't involve you.

    Also, you don't speak for Shadowmite or other users.
    02-23-2007 02:40 PM
  23. vinman's Avatar
    This is one thread which you are not obliged to read. Whats your problem?

    Probably the fact that you believe Archie has any insight.

    Surur
    My problem is quite simple. People whom insist on posting sarcastic, belittling responses to the comments and questions raised by others only pollute and diminish the quality of the overall atmosphere in forums like this. Your comments, in particular, aren't quarantined in this one thread - it's yet another place where you seem bent on belittling someone else. As an open forum meant for the enjoyment of a wide community - one where questions, answers, speculation, and opinion are normally welcome - consistently negative contributors have no real place or value.

    As far as whether or not I believe archie has any insight; well, frankly I wouldn't make any investments from my retirement fund based on information gained in a forum such as this. No one here is going to lose life or limb if there is incorrect information dispursed, yet there are those here who take every word written just that seriously.

    I guess the point is; if someone states something incorrect (or even questionable), it's just as easy to post a correction without trying to make the person look foolish. Doing so makes both look foolish, and one looks like an ***.

    Put another way; if you argue with an *****, people watching probably can't tell who is who.

    With that, I respectfully disengage.
    02-23-2007 03:06 PM
  24. surur's Avatar
    I guess the point is; if someone states something incorrect (or even questionable), it's just as easy to post a correction without trying to make the person look foolish. Doing so makes both look foolish, and one looks like an ***.
    Sorry, but some people are foolish, and showing them the error of their ways is a service I am happy to perform.

    Surur
    02-23-2007 03:56 PM
  25. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    If 720x480 seems impossibly great to you, 800x480 is really going to blow your mind.


    http://ringtones.engadgetmobile.com/...dows-mobile-6/


    http://ringtones.engadgetmobile.com/...apans-emobile/

    And look - real keyboards and HSDPA. They better catch up with Apple and remove them, for our greater convenience! And they better remove that Digital TV too!

    NICE!!! Too bad we won't see them here, I bet.
    If sliders start getting accepted in Japan, it means they could be here to stay.
    02-23-2007 08:00 PM
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