1. archie's Avatar
    Emblazened across the top in big bold letters:

    One big difference is that the Prada phone doesn't offer Internet use with a full-featured Web browser through common WiFi networks.

    From TechNewsWorld:
    http://www.technewsworld.com/story/55239.html
    02-02-2007 04:41 PM
  2. surur's Avatar
    And if you could parse English it could mean:

    a) there is no browser.
    b) the browser isn't full featured
    c) there is no WIFI on the device

    Or any combination of the above. The specs say it has a browser. It has EDGE, and we know it has no WIFI. I wonder which interpretation is the most appropriate....

    Surur
    02-02-2007 05:11 PM
  3. archie's Avatar
    The one which says the Prada phone doesn't allow Internet use.

    It may have restricted access through the carrier giving something like sports scores and weather but that is all.
    02-02-2007 05:18 PM
  4. surur's Avatar
    The one which says the Prada phone doesn't allow Internet use.

    It may have restricted access through the carrier giving something like sports scores and weather but that is all.

    http://www.cellulare-magazine.it/news.php?id=6564

    European phones are not usually tied to carriers.

    Surur
    02-02-2007 05:46 PM
  5. oalvarez's Avatar
    ^^wow...that screen shot/image looks like crap but arguably better than the anything currently available via Palm (wm5/palm os)

    to each his/her own i suppose.
    02-02-2007 07:10 PM
  6. surur's Avatar
    ^^wow...that screen shot/image looks like crap but arguably better than the anything currently available via Palm (wm5/palm os)

    to each his/her own i suppose.
    What, not fisher price enough?



    Surur
    02-02-2007 07:23 PM
  7. oalvarez's Avatar
    no, fisher price looks more or less something like this....spoon fed "you might say"



    02-02-2007 08:12 PM
  8. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    No, that's just boring.
    02-02-2007 08:42 PM
  9. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    ^^wow...that screen shot/image looks like crap but arguably better than the anything currently available via Palm (wm5/palm os)

    to each his/her own i suppose.
    Click the link for the whole article. More screenshots. It really doesn't look that bad. It's actually cool you get a black theme.

    Looks like it has calender and tasks too. Maybe the browser is just a WAP browser and that's what they meant in that other post. WAP is doable. Many may not be able to afford downloading HTML sites anyway in Europe. More data bandwidth.

    It's not bad for a fun phone, just expensive. Any newer SE or Nokia phone will do the same things at 30-40% less. We just don't get the design.
    02-02-2007 08:45 PM
  10. oalvarez's Avatar
    ok...do they come with a 30 day return policy for international sales?

    or will it not work here?

    if it won't work here, i could care less about it.

    thanks though!
    02-02-2007 08:59 PM
  11. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    It should work where 1900 is strong. I just prefer 850 because there's no guarantee of full coverage without 850.
    02-02-2007 09:31 PM
  12. marcol's Avatar
    WAP is doable. Many may not be able to afford downloading HTML sites anyway in Europe. More data bandwidth.
    True for many in Europe but not for all. Cheap unlimited data and 3G is the sweet spot and is certainly available at least in parts of Europe; in the UK it's just a question of choosing the right carrier and plan. As to WAP, I'd find WAP-only horribly restrictive - most of the sites I want to visit have no WAP version!
    02-03-2007 02:57 AM
  13. surur's Avatar
    It has a browser, and they mention horizontal scrolling by touching transparent arrows, which suggests more than a WAP browser. There is also speculation that the browser supports flash (as the UI is based on it), which will be useful for a massive amount of websites, and better than the IPhone.

    Interestingly the video shows it has no software keyboard, just the usual keypad for T-9. This is apparently on purpose, and appreciated by the Italian reviewer, who was obviously much more practices in the texting art than using mini-keyboards.

    The PRADA name should tell us that this phone is meant for show, not functionality. It does give the IPhone a run for its money when it comes to style however, which is really the IPhone's main strong point in any case.

    Surur
    02-03-2007 03:13 AM
  14. marcol's Avatar
    What, not fisher price enough?
    Here's a side-by-side of the equivalent screens:



    Only one winner in my view
    02-03-2007 03:18 AM
  15. marcol's Avatar
    It has a browser, and they mention horizontal scrolling by touching transparent arrows, which suggests more than a WAP browser. There is also speculation that the browser supports flash (as the UI is based on it), which will be useful for a massive amount of websites, and better than the IPhone.
    About Flash on the iPhone Steve Jobs said:

    Well, you might see that.

    David Pogue has corrected his blog in which he originally said there would be no flash.

    http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/...s-list-part-2/
    02-03-2007 03:31 AM
  16. surur's Avatar
    Yes, but we know the CURRENT version does not have flash. The IPhone may also come with a kitchen sink, but at least the reviewers did not notice one in their models.

    The PRADA phone actually comes with 4 changeable themes, if you watch the YouTube video. The rest are more colorful, and features animations such as the aquarium theme with a swimming fish, and the butterfly theme with obviously a flying butterfly.

    When placed side by side the IPhone looks rather gaudy and rather un-Apple-like. What happened to their classical minimalism?



    Surur
    02-03-2007 05:00 AM
  17. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    True for many in Europe but not for all. Cheap unlimited data and 3G is the sweet spot and is certainly available at least in parts of Europe; in the UK it's just a question of choosing the right carrier and plan. As to WAP, I'd find WAP-only horribly restrictive - most of the sites I want to visit have no WAP version!
    So you're finally getting cheaper unlimited in more parts!! That's good!

    I'm planning on building mobile versions of my websites. They should be easier to download. Honestly, IMO most phone screens are just too small for full HTML sites. This is one reason why the iPhone MAY do well among those who use their phones for browsing a lot.
    02-03-2007 05:53 AM
  18. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    Yes, but we know the CURRENT version does not have flash. The IPhone may also come with a kitchen sink, but at least the reviewers did not notice one in their models.

    The PRADA phone actually comes with 4 changeable themes, if you watch the YouTube video. The rest are more colorful, and features animations such as the aquarium theme with a swimming fish, and the butterfly theme with obviously a flying butterfly.

    When placed side by side the IPhone looks rather gaudy and rather un-Apple-like. What happened to their classical minimalism?

    Surur
    I think they both have cool screens! Both are cool eye candy. I just think they may not make good every day, work horse phones.
    02-03-2007 06:00 AM
  19. marcol's Avatar
    Yes, but we know the CURRENT version does not have flash. The IPhone may also come with a kitchen sink, but at least the reviewers did not notice one in their models.
    I was responding to your comment that:

    There is also speculation that the browser supports flash (as the UI is based on it), which will be useful for a massive amount of websites, and better than the IPhone.
    and just pointing out that there is some evidence that the iPhone might have flash. The current version is a prototype and we know that some aspects of it are unfinished. I'd suggest that from a user's point of view that the features that are in the products that ship are the more interesting.

    When placed side by side the IPhone looks rather gaudy and rather un-Apple-like.
    Beauty's in the eye...etc, etc. I think the iPhone UI looks prettier than any other phone UI I've seen.
    02-03-2007 06:12 AM
  20. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    Maybe and maybe not IMO. While the iPhone UI looks very good, SE Walkman phones have a somewhat cooler UI! I also like Symbian S60 3rd edition UI. The iPhone screen can't beat though!
    02-03-2007 06:19 AM
  21. marcol's Avatar
    So you're finally getting cheaper unlimited in more parts!! That's good!
    Mostly down to T-Mobile. I pay 7.50 pcm for 'unlimited' data (capper at 1GB)

    I'm planning on building mobile versions of my websites. They should be easier to download. Honestly, IMO most phone screens are just too small for full HTML sites.
    Agreed, although the S60 browser has a pretty good stab at most sites.

    This is one reason why the iPhone MAY do well among those who use their phones for browsing a lot.
    Agree again. That Safari on the iP has the same underpinnings as the S60 browser is very encouraging IMHO.
    02-03-2007 07:01 AM
  22. marcol's Avatar
    Maybe and maybe not IMO. While the iPhone UI looks very good, SE Walkman phones have a somewhat cooler UI! I also like Symbian S60 3rd edition UI. The iPhone screen can't beat though!
    I like the UI on my daughter's 810i (thanks for the advice you gave on that phone in another thread, btw) but it is a little cartoonish - no doubt to appeal to the younger generation. I do see what Surur's saying when he says the iP UI is 'fisher price' - I suspect Apple have half an eye on the youth market - but I still think they've done a cracking job with the way it looks. Not just the cleanliness and pretty icons, but the transitions, animations, etc. It really makes others look at bit dull IMHO. Perhaps I'm still a bit of kid at heart
    02-03-2007 07:10 AM
  23. surur's Avatar
    I agree the IPhone UI is very pretty, and I wish Apple did not suppress the copies floating around so viciously.

    Surur
    02-03-2007 07:17 AM
  24. bruckwine's Avatar
    I think they both have cool screens! Both are cool eye candy. I just think they may not make good every day, work horse phones.

    my take from day one..neither of these phones will make it into the office...but they'd be good to show off at a party or shopping

    Maybe and maybe not IMO. While the iPhone UI looks very good, SE Walkman phones have a somewhat cooler UI! I also like Symbian S60 3rd edition UI. The iPhone screen can't beat though!
    I like SE phones but those b*stards are too damn expensive..I feel they and the iPhone will be in the same price category...
    02-03-2007 07:21 AM
  25. oalvarez's Avatar
    The PRADA phone actually comes with 4 changeable themes, if you watch the YouTube video. The rest are more colorful, and features animations such as the aquarium theme with a swimming fish, and the butterfly theme with obviously a flying butterfly.

    When placed side by side the IPhone looks rather gaudy and rather un-Apple-like. What happened to their classical minimalism?



    Surur
    the iPhone looks "gaudy" in comparison? it is HARDLY showy, tasteless, cheap, or overly bright.

    flying butterflies and swimming fish? yes, that perhaps is gaudy. maybe you have them mixed up or something like that. or perhaps your mind is stuck on those goofy 3rd party home page/launcher apps for palm/wm5 that display meters and cute little application icons?

    gaudy the iphone screen is not, at least in my eyes. and yes, you're entitled to your opinion just as well. would be fun to poll though.
    02-03-2007 09:11 AM
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