1. specimen38's Avatar
    Of course, you know a lot about business. You're the expert in the iPhone forum. And what's this about "moods" dictating your interests. I have provided you with enough. On second thought...Moods? That's a menopausal word. What are you selling pre-paid legal services or AMWAY?

    The light is green. I have pulled away from the light. You are sitting in my exhaust. Now you can have the last word and I'll want to get back to talking about iPhone.
    Im not in the mood to YouTube a keynote adress from 5 years ago. If "lucrative" to you means "one of the most profitable", then you need a business lesson.
    01-31-2007 06:54 PM
  2. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    No sexism please! That's wasn't necessary.
    01-31-2007 08:15 PM
  3. bruckwine's Avatar
    SO um..back on topic! That no keyboard thing...will it sink or float? Will competitors even bother with that (apart from LG)??
    01-31-2007 08:26 PM
  4. archie's Avatar
    SO um..back on topic! That no keyboard thing...will it sink or float? Will competitors even bother with that (apart from LG)??
    It will be successful for Apple but not others because they will not put the money and R&D into developing a touch-sensitive keyboard that will "float".

    LG??? I wasn't aware that they were using a screen-based keyboard. Which model? Is it the $750 model that everybody here at TreoCentral (except for me) compares to the iPhone?
    02-01-2007 10:23 AM
  5. mobileman's Avatar
    Of course, you know a lot about business. You're the expert in the iPhone forum. And what's this about "moods" dictating your interests. I have provided you with enough. On second thought...Moods? That's a menopausal word. What are you selling pre-paid legal services or AMWAY? .

    This is probably the wierdest, and hardest to understand post I have ever read on treocentral. Congratulations on that.
    02-01-2007 11:51 AM
  6. bruckwine's Avatar
    It will be successful for Apple but not others because they will not put the money and R&D into developing a touch-sensitive keyboard that will "float".

    LG??? I wasn't aware that they were using a screen-based keyboard. Which model? Is it the $750 model that everybody here at TreoCentral (except for me) compares to the iPhone?
    yep LG850 or something like that...actually came out b4 iphone technically... not sure either will ever be mainstream phones...maybe mediacenter is a better word for them.
    02-01-2007 01:01 PM
  7. specimen38's Avatar
    I went to phonescoop.com and couldn't find the LG phone that you might have been alluding to. Do share... I think we're all going to be impressed with the touchscreen technology. You must remember Steve Jobs has been walking around with this thing persecuting it to perfection. I am certain he will spend the next 6 months refining it. I think it will float and not sink.
    SO um..back on topic! That no keyboard thing...will it sink or float? Will competitors even bother with that (apart from LG)??
    02-01-2007 01:11 PM
  8. specimen38's Avatar
    Found it... LG KE850

    Europe only. No US version.
    02-01-2007 01:20 PM
  9. archie's Avatar
    yep LG850 or something like that...actually came out b4 iphone technically... not sure either will ever be mainstream phones...maybe mediacenter is a better word for them.
    But this LG that you mention (which is the same that everybody here seems to like comparing to the iPhone simple because the ear piece looks like the LG) doesn't even have a screen-based keyboard.
    02-01-2007 02:23 PM
  10. surur's Avatar
    But this LG that you mention (which is the same that everybody here seems to like comparing to the iPhone simple because the ear piece looks like the LG) doesn't even have a screen-based keyboard.


    How did you expected it dialed?



    Hey, this looks familiar!!! Apple clearly copied this device!!!!

    Surur
    02-01-2007 05:29 PM
  11. surur's Avatar
    Cool LG Prada phone website. It has micro SD expansion, Macromedia Flash UI and Office and PDF document viewers.

    http://www.lgpradaphone.com/Teaser/h...d/v1_high.html

    Surur
    02-01-2007 05:55 PM
  12. archie's Avatar


    How did you expected it dialed?
    Why did you bother highlighting my text - "doesn't even have a screen-based keyboard" - and then point out that it does have a number pad. I fully expected it would have numbers to dial but as I said, it does not have a keyboard. Which, incidentally is what everybody at TreoCentral deems so very necessary!!!???

    My question marks are to indicate my puzzlement with you equating the LG to the Treo but yet I can't put the iPhone into the same category as this Treo. So my question remains, "How is the LG better than the iPhone when it doesn't have a keyboard?"



    Hey, this looks familiar!!! Apple clearly copied this device!!!!

    Surur
    Yeh, you're right. I'm sorry.







    Its amazing how people can associate and project Apple quality onto a device when it uses the same kind of desktop wallpaper.




    LG: 3 buttons
    Apple: 1 button

    LG: screensize is miniscule and surrounded by a huge black bezel
    Apple: screensize is huge and surrounded by a thin chrome strip

    LG: approximates the shape of an Altoids cannister
    Apple: smoothly rounded case design allows it to slip easily in & out of pockets

    LG: thicker body
    Apple: thinner body

    And this is to say nothing of how the phone actually works. ie: LG does not have a multi-touch display, etc, etc.
    02-01-2007 06:24 PM
  13. oalvarez's Avatar
    wow...how much does that thing weigh?
    02-01-2007 06:39 PM
  14. surur's Avatar
    Oh noess!! Its 0.5 mm thicker!!! A whole 0.02 inches!!! Yet its smaller and 40% lighter and 17 cubic centimeters smaller, and probably has a higher pixel density than Apple's much vaunted 160 ppi. And heaven forbid you can answer the phone without looking at the screen.

    Surur
    02-01-2007 07:33 PM
  15. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    No 850 band though, from what I understand?
    02-01-2007 07:47 PM
  16. surur's Avatar
    No 850 band though, from what I understand?
    Doesn't look like it. Its a Euro phone. Anyway Phone Diva, despite besting the IPhone by featuring a removable battery and removable storage, plus real phone buttons and a LED flash, and being smaller and weighing less, and playing aac's and wma's etc, I'm sure its too much of a dumb phone for you, no matter how pretty.

    Surur
    02-01-2007 08:11 PM
  17. oalvarez's Avatar
    Oh noess!! Its 0.5 mm thicker!!! A whole 0.02 inches!!! Yet its smaller and 40% lighter and 17 cubic centimeters smaller, and probably has a higher pixel density than Apple's much vaunted 160 ppi. And heaven forbid you can answer the phone without looking at the screen.

    Surur
    That's awesome! i love the less heavy devices.

    how heavy is it? it's not obvious what you are comparing it to.

    thanks!
    02-01-2007 09:26 PM
  18. oalvarez's Avatar
    Doesn't look like it. Its a Euro phone. Anyway Phone Diva, despite besting the IPhone by featuring a removable battery and removable storage, plus real phone buttons and a LED flash, and being smaller and weighing less, and playing aac's and wma's etc, I'm sure its too much of a dumb phone for you, no matter how pretty.

    Surur
    what are "real phone buttons?" are there fake ones on the market?

    thanks!
    02-01-2007 09:27 PM
  19. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    Doesn't look like it. Its a Euro phone. Anyway Phone Diva, despite besting the IPhone by featuring a removable battery and removable storage, plus real phone buttons and a LED flash, and being smaller and weighing less, and playing aac's and wma's etc, I'm sure its too much of a dumb phone for you, no matter how pretty.

    Surur
    Does it have no email capability and no browser? No calender, tasks and contacts? If so, then it would be useless for me. Even Sony puts those on it's dumb phones.
    02-01-2007 10:10 PM
  20. surur's Avatar
    Iphone 1156111.6 mm 135 g
    Prada phone 98.8 x 54 x 12 mm 85 g

    From screen shots we can see it has e-mail, and some kind of web browser. There is a video of the interface a bit further up. Its still a closed system however.

    Re real vs fake buttons, of course I am referring to physical vs virtual buttons.

    The Prada phone is nice, the Iphone is probably better in a number of areas, and worse in some, but both would not meet the criteria for most people on this board, despite their good looks.

    Surur
    02-02-2007 02:44 AM
  21. oalvarez's Avatar
    The Prada phone is nice, the Iphone is probably better in a number of areas, and worse in some, but both would not meet the criteria for most people on this board, despite their good looks.

    Surur
    tough to say if a device would meet or not meet "most" people's criteria on this board given that the first iteration of the iphone isn't yet even available.

    probably difficult to tabulate without a large degree of error at this stage.
    02-02-2007 06:59 AM
  22. Kupe#WP's Avatar
    SO um..back on topic! That no keyboard thing...will it sink or float? Will competitors even bother with that (apart from LG)??
    A software keyboard been available on the PPC platform for about 5 years. The latest version of one by SPB Software is listed here. It's usable, but awkward due to the user's inability to "feel" the keys...like on the iPhone.
    02-02-2007 07:24 AM
  23. archie's Avatar
    Iphone 1156111.6 mm 135 g
    Prada phone 98.8 x 54 x 12 mm 85 g

    From screen shots we can see it has e-mail, and some kind of web browser. There is a video of the interface a bit further up. Its still a closed system however.

    Re real vs fake buttons, of course I am referring to physical vs virtual buttons.

    The Prada phone is nice, the Iphone is probably better in a number of areas, and worse in some, but both would not meet the criteria for most people on this board, despite their good looks.

    Surur
    I just watched a demo video of this phone. There is no browser. Not a surprise really considering the interface is Flash.
    02-02-2007 12:49 PM
  24. archie's Avatar
    A software keyboard been available on the PPC platform for about 5 years. The latest version of one by SPB Software is listed here. It's usable, but awkward due to the user's inability to "feel" the keys...like on the iPhone.
    blah, blah, blah... Apple's no good... blah, blah, blah...
    02-02-2007 12:50 PM
  25. surur's Avatar
    I just watched a demo video of this phone. There is no browser. Not a surprise really considering the interface is Flash.
    There is a browser. The interface has very little to do with the apps. You are wrong a lot, arnt you.

    Surur
    02-02-2007 01:36 PM
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