Since they arent making any money on their Macs, apple is looking for a cash cow.
if they can sell these for 50% margin, they will continue to do so.
the price will drop if it doesnt sell and when/if they come out with a newer model (But how do you improve on perfection?)
Since they arent making any money on their Macs, apple is looking for a cash cow.
if they can sell these for 50% margin, they will continue to do so.
the price will drop if it doesnt sell and when/if they come out with a newer model (But how do you improve on perfection?)
Since they arent making any money on their Macs, apple is looking for a cash cow.
if they can sell these for 50% margin, they will continue to do so.
the price will drop if it doesnt sell and when/if they come out with a newer model (But how do you improve on perfection?)
Not that I'm taking a position one way or the other on this, but I didn't see anything in those articles to indicate that they're making money on Macs, aside from an assertion from an analyst asking a question. Apple doesn't provide margin figures at the product level.More uninformed comments.
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2007/01/20070118132008.shtml
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2007/01/20070117163713.shtml
They are making money on the Mac. 28% growth in fact.
Not that I'm taking a position one way or the other on this, but I didn't see anything in those articles to indicate that they're making money on Macs, aside from an assertion from an analyst asking a question. Apple doesn't provide margin figures at the product level.
Why would it bother me? And why can't the rest of us have a discussion about Apple without your repeatedly taking offense?Apple is making money. period.
does that bother you?
hec, i'm a pc guy, but at least i can admit and accept that the other camp might be doing their thing too.
the only thing i can't accept is stupid Palm
The level of the profit margin is the question. In the Q&A, they said that the iPod was the key driver of their high margins. That would mean that the iPod's margins are higher than the average margin and the Mac's margins are lower. If you have a source on that 50% figure, I'd appreciate a link. Thanks.Considering the profit margins on the Macs, some say the iMac is close to 50% I would say it is safe to assert they are making money on the Macs.
Apple is making money. period.
does that bother you?
hec, i'm a pc guy, but at least i can admit and accept that the other camp might be doing their thing too.
the only thing i can't accept is stupid Palm
Are you surur's twin brother?! The two of you are as one-sided as you accuse each other of being whether about WM, POS or the still largely unknown iPhone! why all the bile?
Why would it bother me? And why can't the rest of us have a discussion about Apple without your repeatedly taking offense?
Nope. Several people in this thread made claims about the profit margins of Macs. One claimed the margins were small. Two others went on the attack, claiming that the profit margins are large. One of them provided links that did not support the claim; the other claimed a 28% profit margin, which seemed to be confused with the growth rate. I pointed out that there's no hard data provided by Apple either way. I am genuinely curious what the correct answer is, and I asked for a link. It's certainly possible that some analyst has put forth an opinion on the matter.you are now questioning their profit margins and down to the specific device. i'm not taking offense, just simply laughing at some of the questions that are raised. why not pull down a 10k or write/call Apple's treasurer to find out for yourself.
Nope. Several people in this thread made claims about the profit margins of Macs. One claimed the margins were small. Two others went on the attack, claiming that the profit margins are large. One of them provided links that did not support the claim; the other claimed a 28% profit margin, which seemed to be confused with the growth rate. I pointed out that there's no hard data provided by Apple either way. I am genuinely curious what the correct answer is, and I asked for a link. It's certainly possible that some analyst has put forth an opinion on the matter.
Apple does not release profit margins at the product level, so checking their SEC filings or calling the Treasurer's office will likely yield nothing.
If you're not interested in this matter, you don't have to participate. But the profit margins on Apple's existing products are quite relevant to the thread and in determining the likelihood that Apple will reduce prices on the iPhone. The article's reasoning is based solely on the analysis that says the manufacturing costs are about half the retail price. It ignores R&D, marketing, distribution, and sales, which the company can't ignore.
According to this, the growth rate on Mac shipments was 28%, the average gross margin for the company was 31%, the Mac gross margin was less than that, and they don't release product line margin figures. If you say that Mac gross margins were 28% in the past, I'll take your word for it.I have no confusion with the growth rate (which was more than 28%). Apple has several times given profit margins on Macs during their investor conference calls. Macs have in recent years always had profit margins in the 28% range.
The level of the profit margin is the question. In the Q&A, they said that the iPod was the key driver of their high margins. That would mean that the iPod's margins are higher than the average margin and the Mac's margins are lower. If you have a source on that 50% figure, I'd appreciate a link. Thanks.
macrumors site said:Apple shipped 1,606,000 Macintosh computers and 21,066,000 iPods during the quarter, representing 28 percent growth in Macs and 50 percent growth in iPods over the year-ago quarter.