You know 22 seconds to download all of the NYT during that demo compared to 10 seconds on my 5Mb desktop connection isn't bad.
I would disagree. It's ease-of-use over all--the Apple way. "It just works".Its style over function in the end, which is typical Apple.
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Apple AND Yahoo! press releases specifically say "Push IMAP". That is a capital "P".
They also specifically say it will be free for iPhone customers only, which is also to infer that it is Push IMAP and not the other stuff you are claiming, which is freely available to anyone.
I know that I have an iPod charger in my car, on my desk at my office and one at home. I'm thinking most people have a second charger and would easily use it at least once a day to keep their iPod/cell phone/media player/mobile web browser charged.I still think the big stinker here will be battery life, but we'll see. A smallish battery, fast processor, and a hankering to browse or listen to music or get your mail pushed to you = less than a day of use for semi-power users and up.
Something to think about: These non power-users who Apple is aiming at (i.e. the consumer market); are they used to charging their phones every night? If they really take advantage of this phone, they will have to. Or will they then stop using those features and keep it as a phone so it will be usable for a few days...
If the phone is EDGE only there will be NO upgrade down the line...UMTS requires a seperate modem. So disappointing.
Archie...you still here? It's seems just like yesterday I served you (or FITA, for you South Park fans) when you invented all sorts of lies about Apple.
Wolf, I did some checking and found that this free push email you are speaking of actually requires an application to sit on your phone which checks the yahoo e-mail account. This is not Push IMAP email technology of any sort.
...and I never said Chatter was not an expert. If you check back it was Chatter denouncing me as no expert - never having claimed to be.
Alll I said is that Yahoo was providing free Push IMAP email for iPhone customers and Chatter had to jump in to seemingly knock the iPhone down a few pegs or something to that affect.
No no...you don't get to do that.Tell me how it long it takes to download the NYT on your mobile phone.
You're kidding, right?Then tell me how long it takes to download it on your desktop connection.
You're not getting it. Yes, there will be a 3g iPhone but not for at least 1 year. This current iPhone is not upgradable (so it seems) since it only has one radio.That's not what Steve Jobs said today.
Wolf, I did .........
archie said:Wolf,
I forgot to add........
archie said:Wolf,
I forgot to add in the post above taht I did find two free services but they were only free as a limited 1 month trial. Can you point me to what you were speaking of?
No no...you don't get to do that.
I'll tell you how fast on my mobile phone PLUS my Wifi connection since that is what Steve did: 24 seconds.
Now imagine loading that page over EDGE (I did it in about 38 seconds over EvDO, which blows EDGE out of the water)
But I would never browse the NY Times on any mobile device b/c it looks dumb! You're going to zoom and pan all over the place to read part of an article? Blah.
I use http://mobile.nytimes.com/ which is formatted for my Treo 700wx.
You know how long it takes me over EvDO to zip through each story?
4-7 seconds (depending on if there is a picture or not).
I get the entire story, no zooming or panning, no ads and perfectly legible because it was made for mobile browsing.
Once again, there is a reason we don't use "full browsers" on mobile devices: b/c you have to pan and scan all over, zoom here, format there, download ads. It's a waste and unbearable over 2g.
You're kidding, right?
On my 2+ year old PC: 5 seconds flat.
You're not getting it. Yes, there will be a 3g iPhone but not for at least 1 year. This current iPhone is not upgradable (so it seems) since it only has one radio.
You'll be stuck at 2g with this device while I have a cheaper data/voice plan and 3g now and 4g (Wimax) within 12-14 months.
And you'll never be able to do this on your iPhone v1, which is kind of sad.
By the way, some of us enjoyed the iPhone's layout so much we copied (for free to boot!)
funny thing is, a lot of the WM5 community groans when they see those picsok Mal I want that!
My apologies Woof. It is hard keeping track of all the different people attacking me here. The question was meant for Malatesta.
Malatesta, I had said that I found two free services but they were only free as a limited 1 month trial. I then asked if you could point me to what you were speaking of?
Not a huge deal really. I'm loosing my inclination to post here any more.
Have fun guys.
bcaslis said:No kidding. It seems these forums seem to attract people who just want to slam anything not windows mobile based.
The fact is the IPhone is a very slick device, but deficient in many many ways (3rd party support, text entry, features such as GPS, HSDPA etc) and therefore for most applications, except video and music, and maybe web, the Treo's are actually objectively better right now.