1. TheDot's Avatar
    01-09-2007 10:52 PM
  2. copernicus's Avatar
    Ouch!
    01-09-2007 10:58 PM
  3. hannip's Avatar
    Typical of any new "cool" device. Everyone freaks out how great it is in the beginning, then the truth starts trickling out. I'm sure this is just the beginning.
    01-09-2007 11:01 PM
  4. MacUser's Avatar
    I'm not too sure about that. If you can install/download Widgets, that's exactly what 3rd party apps are--Widgets. I imagine that 3rd party developers will make Widgets for the iPhone.
    01-09-2007 11:03 PM
  5. NextDream's Avatar
    Third party software for what? I've found that the majority of third party software and hacks I have used were to clear up shi_ that should have been done by Palm to begin with!
    01-09-2007 11:18 PM
  6. Merlyn_3D's Avatar
    Um...Apple as always known that it's 3rd party developers are the ones who write software consumers love, open source/free or otherwise. I highly doubt you'd be locked out of adding 3rd party apps to the iPHone.
    01-09-2007 11:47 PM
  7. Dunc's Avatar
    It runs embedded OSX so there will be 3rd party apps don't you worry. No 3G is a disappointment, but it has Bluetooth 2.0 and 803.11g, so who cares!
    01-09-2007 11:47 PM
  8. Merlyn_3D's Avatar
    It runs embedded OSX so there will be 3rd party apps don't you worry. No 3G is a disappointment, but it has Bluetooth 2.0 and 803.11g, so who cares!
    3G will come in the next version, that's what was said in the keynote.
    01-09-2007 11:51 PM
  9. oalvarez's Avatar
    3rd party apps....phooey....i bet you this time they'll be referred to as "i-phone programs" that work as they're intended to, and with the intended device.

    it's a new dawn
    01-09-2007 11:57 PM
  10. Mtreosexual's Avatar
    Documents to Go !
    Adobe

    I hope they have these two. So far no mention . I bet they will have these or some 3rd party .
    01-10-2007 12:10 AM
  11. cyber's Avatar
    a good, thought through phone does not need 3rd party apps.
    01-10-2007 01:10 AM
  12. Tissa's Avatar
    Widgets are 3rd party apps.
    01-10-2007 03:25 AM
  13. mrjoec's Avatar
    a good, thought through phone does not need 3rd party apps.
    I don't agree with that at all, but I have yet to see any official word that 3rd party apps won't be made. Even if Apple has decided to keep the platform closed for the time being, they always have the option of opening it up in the future.

    Being able to connect to VPNs and Exchange servers, and being able to read Office documents are going to be essential for this phone, one way or the other. Whether Apple writes these items themselves, partners with Microsoft or someone else to write them, or opens up the development to any company who wants to have at itone of those three things is going to happen eventually.
    01-10-2007 03:40 AM
  14. surur's Avatar
    Widgets are 3rd party apps.
    Call me when the TomTom widget, and reference work widget, and office widget comes along.

    Surur
    01-10-2007 03:47 AM
  15. ion++'s Avatar
    i hope for some 3.party application to replace the SMS program, because i think they waste screen space with their bubbles in the "chat view".
    01-10-2007 04:01 AM
  16. marcol's Avatar
    'Noted analyst and Engadget pal Michael Gartenberg stated that the iPhone is first party software ONLY -- i.e. not a smartphone by conventional terms, being that a smartphone is a platform device that allows software to be installed.'

    Hardly an official announcement and not the most illuminating of articles. If he's such a pal why not ask him how he knows this? Inside info or a dodgy conclusion based on there being no 3rd party app icons on the home screen?

    If it's true though I find myself agreeing with surur

    Call me when the TomTom widget, and reference work widget, and office widget comes along.
    Of note:

    Mini OS X
    The question on the minds of many developers now that this new stripped down version of OS X will be made available is... can I develop applications for it? So far, the answer has been "no comment" from Apple. However, an interesting note is that the iPhone's display is extremely high-resolution (160 ppi). At WWDC 2006, Apple told developers to begin making their applications "resolution independent," a fact that may come to bear should Apple decide to distribute a software development kit.


    http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2007/...09230510.shtml
    01-10-2007 04:56 AM
  17. hannip's Avatar
    i hope for some 3.party application to replace the SMS program, because i think they waste screen space with their bubbles in the "chat view".

    I agree with you there. That sms app is the worst thing about what I saw in the demo. Very toyish looking and wasted space. I'll take the palm sms app over that any day.
    01-10-2007 08:07 AM
  18. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    I agree with you there. That sms app is the worst thing about what I saw in the demo. Very toyish looking and wasted space. I'll take the palm sms app over that any day.
    It might be good for constant SMSers. If you can carry on 3 differrent conversations, that's pretty cool!
    01-10-2007 02:15 PM
  19. blee4's Avatar
    The iPod did not have 3rd party accessories from day one and I doubt very many of you had a first gen iPod. I myself only had a 2nd gen iPod, but I'm sure Apple Inc. =P will put all the lessons learned from every generation of the iPod into the iPhone.
    01-10-2007 03:29 PM
  20. archie's Avatar
    'Noted analyst and Engadget pal Michael Gartenberg stated that the iPhone is first party software ONLY -- i.e. not a smartphone by conventional terms, being that a smartphone is a platform device that allows software to be installed.'
    How could he say this when there have been no announcements made. Lets wait and see what the situation is after Apple explains to us why they are enabling users to sync Widgets online with the upcoming Leopard OS and explain to us what these mystery issues are with the recently released beta of Apple's new widget development application called Dashcode.
    01-10-2007 04:22 PM
  21. Nesta's Avatar
    How could he say this when there have been no announcements made. Lets wait and see what the situation is after Apple explains to us why they are enabling users to sync Widgets online with the upcoming Leopard OS and explain to us what these mystery issues are with the recently released beta of Apple's new widget development application called Dashcode.
    http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2...ons-227575.php

    When we got our sweaty palms on the iPhone, we weren't allowed to take photos for our usual gallery. But we got a Q&A with Apple's VP of Applications, Eddie Cue, and Senior VP of Worldwide Marketing, Phil Schiller. (Otherwise known as the guy who does iSight convos with Steve-O at every Apple event.)

    Here are some details that were left out of the Keynote.

    The OS: It isn't OS X proper, as you'd expect. And like an iPod, it won't be an open system that people can develop for. Remember, this is both an iPod and a Phone.
    01-10-2007 11:51 PM
  22. hannip's Avatar
    Which is probably fine for the average user. It should be very stable without 3rd party apps. It sure ruins the fun for the average treo user that likes to tweak things though.
    01-11-2007 01:06 AM
  23. lufcmattylad's Avatar
    For me, Its either OS X or is not OS X. The same way Windows CE/Pocket PC etc is not Desktop Windows. From these comments, its clearly not OS X and therefore not suitable for power users, this phone promised so much but is just a glorified Ipod. Im not interested in it in this form.
    01-11-2007 11:07 AM
  24. mobileman's Avatar
    Just read this off of a newsweek interview with Steve Jobs....

    "Jobs says we can expect more apps on the phone by the time it ships in June. (For instance, one might expect the iPhone to allow users to view Word documents, something that the prototype doesn’t do today.)"

    and...

    "Jobs say, “There’s no reason we couldn’t have iChat on here.”"


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16566968...wsweek/page/3/
    01-11-2007 03:00 PM
  25. mobileman's Avatar
    Heres another interview with Steve Jobs where he is directly asked about 3rd party apps....

    These are devices that need to work, and you cant do that if you load any software on them, he said. That doesnt mean theres not going to be software to buy that you can load on them coming from us. It doesnt mean we have to write it all, but it means it has to be more of a controlled environment.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/11/te...rtner=homepage
    01-11-2007 09:24 PM
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