1. mikeallen's Avatar
    01-09-2007 02:11 PM
  2. archie's Avatar
    Found the actual dimensions.

    4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches
    01-09-2007 02:11 PM
  3. vinman's Avatar
    Found the actual dimensions.

    4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches

    That looks a lot more like what's in the actual photograph. Thanks for digging up those specs!
    01-09-2007 02:14 PM
  4. whatever7's Avatar
    Palm stock drop 5%, oh ****.
    01-09-2007 02:14 PM
  5. mikeallen's Avatar
    Technical Specifications
    Screen size 3.5 inches
    Screen resolution 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
    Input method Multi-touch
    Operating system OS X
    Storage 4GB or 8GB
    GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900)
    Wireless data Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0
    Camera 2.0 megapixels
    Battery Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing
    Up to 16 hours Audio playback

    Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm

    Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams
    01-09-2007 02:14 PM
  6. vinman's Avatar
    Wonder why that site is loading SLOW AS MOLASSASS right now?
    01-09-2007 02:16 PM
  7. vinman's Avatar
    Palm stock drop 5%, oh ****.
    Didn't see that coming...
    :stick:
    01-09-2007 02:18 PM
  8. mobileman's Avatar
    Found the actual dimensions.
    4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches
    So Gizmodo lied. Lost all repsect for that site.

    You are apparently right, those specs are great. I think I want it again. I have 6 months to save for it. Probably will have to switch to cingular as it might be very hard to unlock.
    01-09-2007 02:18 PM
  9. archie's Avatar
    Technical Specifications
    Screen size 3.5 inches
    Screen resolution 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
    Input method Multi-touch
    Operating system OS X
    Storage 4GB or 8GB
    GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900)
    Wireless data Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0
    Camera 2.0 megapixels
    Battery Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing
    Up to 16 hours Audio playback

    Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm

    Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams
    The specs mean nothing. You have to use this phone... or see someone else use it as I did. The way you are able to use this thing is what will sell it.
    01-09-2007 02:19 PM
  10. MarkY's Avatar
    It is a very interesting device and will appeal to many people. The biggest drawbacks to me are the network, no office application support, questionable ability for 3rd party support.

    If anything, this gives Palm something to shoot for. Presumably Palm has new devices under development that may incorporate a lot of the features we all want, so it should be an interesting 2007.

    As a pure business device, Palm shouldn't be worried about the iPhone, but this has killer written all over it in the consumer space (assuming Cingular works well where you live).
    01-09-2007 02:21 PM
  11. vinman's Avatar
    Well, this has been fun. It's all speculation now until June. Hopefully we'll have a few surprises in store still - like 3G (not giving up hope yet)...
    01-09-2007 02:21 PM
  12. vw2002's Avatar
    It will be amusing to watch palm lose customers to the iphone.

    It WILL happen. I have a feeling the soft touch keyboard will be much more efficient and enjoyable than the treo keyboard, which we all know can be frustrating ( typing errors ).

    the iphone will not only be able to organize your life just as well, but just may be free of crashes and resets, notorious in palm projects.

    the treo diehards will dig in like those who insisted cobalt and palm os still had a future way back when, but I think they will see over time that apple will be the winner.

    you can keep the crashes, resets, lack of wifi, meager memory, and all the rest, comrades...

    Ill go with the winner, the innovator - apple.
    01-09-2007 02:24 PM
  13. whatever7's Avatar
    I think HTC can make a phone that match that kind of spec. Basically its a larger Tytn without the keyboard. Of cource touch screen operation is not going to be as smooth as this phone. But this phone is going to bring in a whole new bunch of rabid Apple fanboys who were not traditional PDA phone users.

    As for me, I don't believe in carrying big and expensive phone anymore. I still want to move my PDA phone to a samller phone once I get GPS running on the PSP.

    Damn you Jobs why can't you merge a phone with the iPod nano?
    01-09-2007 02:25 PM
  14. surur's Avatar
    Technical Specifications
    Screen size 3.5 inches
    Screen resolution 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
    Input method Multi-touch
    Operating system OS X
    Storage 4GB or 8GB
    GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900)
    Wireless data Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0
    Camera 2.0 megapixels
    Battery Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing
    Up to 16 hours Audio playback

    Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm

    Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams
    Now suddenly I am unimpressed. That resolution is way too low for a full operating system. Its not even VGA. The new HTC Omni is going to own this device specs-wise (but of course wont have the sex appeal). It will however have a better keyboard, HSDPA, a higher res screen (rumoured to be 800x480) and built-in GPS.

    For a few minutes I thought of importing this device unlocked, but now reality is setting in. Its not that great after all.

    Surur
    01-09-2007 02:27 PM
  15. marcol's Avatar
    Aspects of this are absolutely stunning. The UI makes anything else I've seen on a phone look like it came in with the ark. OS X on a phone! I haven't really absorbed it all yet but some of the apps look really, really nice, Safari and iTunes especially. This could be a giant leap forward for smartphones.

    BUT... no 3G! I really, really hope this changes, at least by the time it gets over here. They couldn't release a device like this in Europe without 3G, could they? No QWERTY I could probably live with - as long as the virtual keyboard works really well, but no 3G would be really tough, probably a deal killer. It has to happen at some point, but please c'mon Apple don't make us wait for the second generation for decent data speeds.
    01-09-2007 02:31 PM
  16. whatever7's Avatar
    The most impressive thing to me is the google map intergration. The app knows where you are (assuming by using the cell tower number). This is something easily done but only Apple force google to seamlessly intergrate into the software.
    01-09-2007 02:35 PM
  17. archie's Avatar
    Now suddenly I am unimpressed. That resolution is way too low for a full operating system. Its not even VGA. The new HTC Omni is going to own this device specs-wise (but of course wont have the sex appeal). It will however have a better keyboard, HSDPA, a higher res screen (rumoured to be 800x480) and built-in GPS.

    For a few minutes I thought of importing this device unlocked, but now reality is setting in. Its not that great after all.

    Surur
    What are you talking about? OK seriously, you guys are in denial.

    It is 160 pixels per inch. There is nothing else anywhere taht gives you that kind of resolution. This is to say nothing of the fact that it relies on CORE technologies from OS X that give the rendered line art and text a smoother look than anyone else can get (you know, kinda like enhanced anti-aliasing oh wait, never mind, Palm doesn't use anti-aliasing in their OS).
    01-09-2007 02:35 PM
  18. marcol's Avatar
    Now suddenly I am unimpressed. That resolution is way too low for a full operating system.
    I didn't see anything in the pics from the keynote that made me think the UI needed more pixels. Perhaps OS X has more flexibilty than you give it credit for! You do realise this isn't the same as desktop OS X UI?
    01-09-2007 02:39 PM
  19. surur's Avatar
    What are you talking about? OK seriously, you guys are in denial.

    It is 160 pixels per inch.
    Are you saying 3.5 inch VGA screens dont exists? My HTC Universal begs to disagree.

    Surur
    01-09-2007 02:40 PM
  20. surur's Avatar
    I didn't see anything in the pics from the keynote that made me think the UI needed more pixels. Perhaps OS X has more flexibilty than you give it credit for! You do realise this isn't the same as desktop OS X UI?
    Thats irrelevant when it comes to web browsing, displaying video and pictures, spread sheets and word documents. Real pixels count. This is especially true if it can run real desktop apps.

    Surur
    01-09-2007 02:41 PM
  21. whatever7's Avatar
    What are you talking about? OK seriously, you guys are in denial.

    It is 160 pixels per inch. There is nothing else anywhere taht gives you that kind of resolution. This is to say nothing of the fact that it relies on CORE technologies from OS X that give the rendered line art and text a smoother look than anyone else can get (you know, kinda like enhanced anti-aliasing oh wait, never mind, Palm doesn't use anti-aliasing in their OS).
    What. The 650 has a 320X320 2.5" screen. That comes out to 180 pixel/inch. Not that I don't believe the iPhone screen is better. Pixel density has nothing to do with how good the screen is. See the PSP screen.
    01-09-2007 02:42 PM
  22. vinman's Avatar
    Aspects of this are absolutely stunning. The UI makes anything else I've seen on a phone look like it came in with the ark. OS X on a phone! I haven't really absorbed it all yet but some of the apps look really, really nice, Safari and iTunes especially. This could be a giant leap forward for smartphones.

    BUT... no 3G! I really, really hope this changes, at least by the time it gets over here. They couldn't release a device like this in Europe without 3G, could they? No QWERTY I could probably live with - as long as the virtual keyboard works really well, but no 3G would be really tough, probably a deal killer. It has to happen at some point, but please c'mon Apple don't make us wait for the second generation for decent data speeds.
    I also have serious doubts about this phone's lack of 3G/HSDPA. The EU and especially Asia will not embrace it without that feature. Again, though, it's all speculation until release day...

    The captioning did mention something about WiMax...
    01-09-2007 02:42 PM
  23. surur's Avatar


    It sure is lovely though. I might just get it to play with. But if it does not run existing desktop software, or needs a whole new base of third-party software it may not be for me.

    Surur
    01-09-2007 02:47 PM
  24. PDR447's Avatar
    I also have serious doubts about this phone's lack of 3G/HSDPA. The EU and especially Asia will not embrace it without that feature. Again, though, it's all speculation until release day...
    Speculation??? sorry but it's all over apple's site and in the keynote that it is EDGE only. yeah it sucks for us(and apple) but for some reason they have left out 3g. for me it's not a huge concern cause I'm usually near a wifi network.
    01-09-2007 02:49 PM
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    01-09-2007 02:49 PM
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