1. iphonemilk's Avatar
    I'm getting mine from ATT, I bought the first and the 3G on release date. No I'm not waiting for the upgrade price
    06-11-2009 01:58 PM
  2. appleseed's Avatar
    @shutter
    Yeah, I understand that part, but doesn't signing a new 2-yr contract reset your upgrade eligibility to 2 years (or whatever time period) after you signed the new contract?

    Unless what you're thinking is that the upgrade period is independent of your contract period. In my case, that doesn't make sense either, because I bought the 3G at full price because I was not eligible for upgrade last year. AT&T said I will be eligible on 3/2009 when I bought the 3G. However, AT&T now says I'm not eligible until 3/2010. Hmmm...

    I'm not looking for a definitive answer, obviously. I just find it a bit strange. And, personally, I'm fine with waiting until next year when a major hardware revision is due (at least according to Apple's past track record).

    I'm really looking forward to OS 3.0, tho.
    06-11-2009 02:16 PM
  3. shutter's Avatar
    Well you not adding 2 years, your 2 years starts the day you sign the contract. They would be stupid not let you upgrade before your 2 year contract was up. Once your contract is up, you have no obligation to stay, If they can sign you up for 2 more years...before your contract ends...it's better for them.

    So I am 6 months into my 2year contract. I'm paying the extra for an early upgrade, my contract for 2 years will begin the 19th. 18 months after the 19th I will be eligible for a full subsidy upgrade.
    06-11-2009 02:29 PM
  4. Truevon's Avatar
    I pre-ordered my white 16g 3Gs 2 days ago by phone through apple and my confirmation email says it will be delivered on the 19th. I'm upgrading from my 2g iPhone so, I was able to get the early discount.
    06-11-2009 04:04 PM
  5. infenit101's Avatar
    At&t's standard is to allow subsidized upgrade after 20 months. The amount of your bill, length as a customer and payment history are taken into account to give you an earlier upgrade cycle. I am currently on an 18 month cycle, some are on a 12 month cycle.
    im on a 12 month cycle..whooooooooh
    06-11-2009 04:21 PM
  6. JustinHorn's Avatar
    At&t's standard is to allow subsidized upgrade after 20 months. The amount of your bill, length as a customer and payment history are taken into account to give you an earlier upgrade cycle. I am currently on an 18 month cycle, some are on a 12 month cycle.
    I think it's more based on just how much you spend a month. They don't care how long you've been a customer.

    If your bill is $100 or more you are most likely going to be on a 12 month cycle.
    06-11-2009 05:05 PM
  7. shutter's Avatar
    I think it's more based on just how much you spend a month. They don't care how long you've been a customer.

    If your bill is $100 or more you are most likely going to be on a 12 month cycle.
    There has to be something else in there, my family plan is over 200 per month (right at 200 before all the taxes) and I'm still on an 18 month cycle.
    06-11-2009 05:08 PM
  8. JustinHorn's Avatar
    There has to be something else in there, my family plan is over 200 per month (right at 200 before all the taxes) and I'm still on an 18 month cycle.
    Interesting, if you don't mind could you break it out for me? Like, Line 1 = $xxx, Line 2 = $xxx, Line 3 = $xxx

    Most of the charges will go to the master line on the plan. The only charges that go to the extra lines is $9.99 + $30 for data.

    Example I have 2 lines:
    Line 1 = $110 a month
    Line 2 = $40 a month

    Line 1 is 12 month cycle
    Line 2 is 20 month cycle
    06-11-2009 05:26 PM
  9. shutter's Avatar
    5 Lines

    Line 1 = 120
    60 voice
    30 data
    30 Family texting
    18 month cycle

    Line 2 = 44.98
    9.99 Voice
    30 data
    4.99 insurance
    20 month cycle

    Line 3 = 9.99
    20 months

    Line 4 = 9.99
    20 months


    Line 5 = 9.99
    20 months

    Starting this month, 2 of the lines got the 10 dollar unlimited wap internet. Hasn't been billed yet.
    Last edited by shutter; 06-11-2009 at 05:48 PM.
    06-11-2009 05:36 PM
  10. Mama's Avatar
    Eligible in October '09
    06-11-2009 05:43 PM
  11. JustinHorn's Avatar
    Line 1 = 120
    60 voice
    30 data
    30 Family texting
    18 month cycle
    That sucks, everyone else I have talked to that is $100 or more is on the 12 month cycle. How did you look up your cycle? Through your att login or on the Apple order page? I mean both should be the same, just wondering.

    It makes sense the other 4 lines are $20 a month b/c they are less than $69 dollars, but the $120 should definitely get you 12 months, you might want to call att and double check that what comes up on your online account is correct.
    06-11-2009 06:01 PM
  12. shutter's Avatar
    I just remember when I bought my iPhone (New Years Eve) and I'm eligible 6/1/2010. Course that will roll over next week. I'll wait and see what happens with my next upgrade date. I seem to remember watching my date move in the OLAM a couple of times the last time I upgraded. If when I get my 3G S it doesn't go to 1 year. I will call and see what's up.
    06-11-2009 06:04 PM
  13. shwy's Avatar
    Nonononononononononononononono!

    3Gs hardly has anything new to offer, I'm sticking with my 3G.
    06-11-2009 06:16 PM
  14. nevermind's Avatar
    We preorderd two 32gb black ones this morning. Can't wait until next Friday.



    Goodbye Sprint, and goodbye Windows Mobile!
    06-11-2009 06:17 PM
  15. taksdk's Avatar
    Interesting, if you don't mind could you break it out for me? Like, Line 1 = $xxx, Line 2 = $xxx, Line 3 = $xxx

    Most of the charges will go to the master line on the plan. The only charges that go to the extra lines is $9.99 + $30 for data.

    Example I have 2 lines:
    Line 1 = $110 a month
    Line 2 = $40 a month

    Line 1 is 12 month cycle
    Line 2 is 20 month cycle
    I got my 3g july 11th and for Christmas got my girlfriend one and signed up for a family plan for the both of us. What I don't get is that her upgrade is on 12-06-09 the day I bought her 3g and mine is on 12-12-09, 18 months after I bought mine. When I called ATT, the guy I talked to said that hers is wrong and that they would move it to July 2010 where it should be unless I didn't report the mistake. He told me everyone should be on a 18 month cycle.
    06-11-2009 07:15 PM
  16. Jeremy's Avatar
    Nonononononononononononononono!

    3Gs hardly has anything new to offer, I'm sticking with my 3G.
    Why people continue to say this is way beyond me when it's anything but the truth. The 3G S offers a lot more in terms of upgrades compared to the 3G from the 1st generation. But to each his/her own.
    06-11-2009 07:35 PM
  17. JustinHorn's Avatar
    I just remember when I bought my iPhone (New Years Eve) and I'm eligible 6/1/2010. Course that will roll over next week. I'll wait and see what happens with my next upgrade date. I seem to remember watching my date move in the OLAM a couple of times the last time I upgraded. If when I get my 3G S it doesn't go to 1 year. I will call and see what's up.
    Only thing I can think of is if you didn't have the family plan the whole time. Like if when you first got the 3G you were paying $90 and then later it got bumped up to $120.

    I got my 3g july 11th and for Christmas got my girlfriend one and signed up for a family plan for the both of us. What I don't get is that her upgrade is on 12-06-09 the day I bought her 3g and mine is on 12-12-09, 18 months after I bought mine. When I called ATT, the guy I talked to said that hers is wrong and that they would move it to July 2010 where it should be unless I didn't report the mistake. He told me everyone should be on a 18 month cycle.
    It sounds like her line is acting as the "main" line on the account and is getting the 12 month upgrade for being over $100 bucks. Your other line might have been billed long enough in the $69 to $98.99 range to qualify for the 18 months upgrade.

    On a side now, I'm gotten myself all confused when counting months. When I count 7.11.2008 to 12.12.2009 I get 17 months, not 18?

    Code:
    7.11.08 > 8.10.08 - 1
    8.11.08 > 9.10.08 - 2
    9.11.08 > 10.10.08 - 3
    10.11.08 > 11.10.08 - 4
    11.11.08 > 12.10.08 - 5
    12.11.08 > 1.10.09 - 6
    1.11.09 > 2.10.09 - 7
    2.11.09 > 3.10.09 - 8
    3.11.09 > 4.10.09 - 9
    4.11.09 > 5.10.09 - 10
    5.11.09 > 6.10.09 - 11
    6.11.09 > 7.10.09 - 12
    7.11.09 > 8.10.09 - 13
    8.11.09 > 9.10.09 - 14
    9.11.09 > 10.10.09 - 15
    10.11.09 > 11.10.09 - 16
    11.11.09 > 12.10.09 - 17 (upgrade month for most 3G owners)
    12.11.09 > 1.10.09 - 18
    1.11.09 > 2.10.09 - 19
    2.11.09 > 3.10.09 - 20
    06-11-2009 07:36 PM
  18. shutter's Avatar
    Only thing I can think of is if you didn't have the family plan the whole time. Like if when you first got the 3G you were paying $90 and then later it got bumped up to $120.
    Now that you mention it...I got the family texting at the end of Jan. or the beginning of Feb. Before that I was on a 5 dollar text plan. Which would have put me 5 short of 100.
    06-11-2009 07:41 PM
  19. jamesus's Avatar
    Why people continue to say this is way beyond me when it's anything but the truth. The 3G S offers a lot more in terms of upgrades compared to the 3G from the 1st generation. But to each his/her own.
    Different strokes...
    06-11-2009 08:01 PM
  20. alawson84's Avatar
    Took the jump yesterday and ordered a white 16gb model.
    06-11-2009 10:02 PM
  21. Ric0chet's Avatar
    Black 32gb heading for my doorstep on June 19th. Revolutionary upgrade? No. Lame as this may sound, the increased storage is actually one of the biggest reasons - I want to put my whole iTunes library on the thing, and 16gb isn't enough space. Once I sell my 3G, the net cost won't be much, anyway...
    06-11-2009 11:10 PM
  22. whmurray's Avatar
    not too impressed with the upgrade, and no MMS when 3.0 launches?

    i can wait for a complete redesign
    There will be MMS on launch in most of the world. In the US, we do not have adequate wireless broadband capacity to carry it. That is not Apple's fault [unless you want to blame the success of the iPhone for consuming all the capacity].

    Welcome to the Third World.
    06-12-2009 09:13 AM
  23. Behshad's Avatar
    There will be MMS on launch in most of the world. In the US, we do not have adequate wireless broadband capacity to carry it. That is not Apple's fault [unless you want to blame the success of the iPhone for consuming all the capacity].

    Welcome to the Third World.
    Its not apple's fault, youre right.
    But I dont see how we can have the capacity, when MMS is available through ALL networks and on ALL phones but iPhone. What gives.
    Sending/receiving a pic from one iphone to another phone shouldnt be as heavy on the network than using Safari or downloading a movie when the 3.0 is out,,,,
    06-12-2009 09:41 AM
  24. rgar3388's Avatar
    It's not about the capacity of the network, according to at&t it's about internal system upgrades, which could mean they have to update all iphone carrier files on their end. But yes I think it's ridiculous and At&t should get some ramification for this and be forced to give some sort of discount to all of their iphone customers.
    06-12-2009 09:55 AM
  25. redbeard's Avatar
    Whatever AT&T says, you can be assured it's BS.
    06-12-2009 10:03 AM
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